Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

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Mallory should probably let someone who's at higher risk of contracting monkeypox have that vaccine. Like an actual gay man, for example.

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In side character news, Nicole Cliffe caught herself a truck sized troon of her very own.

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GFM looks like he weighs himself on a "cosmic scale"
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rocknrollmartian said:
^Vaccines--and yes, unnecessary vaccines like multiple ineffective boosters and now this monkeypox madness--have turned into merit badges for these people. It's like another iteration of Munchausen's.
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Confirmed:
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Joe clearly also thinks it's a badge of being kweer + totally getting laid.

I thought the Nicole Cliffe thing must be a joke, but the troon is confirming it in Twitter replies. He also confirms that Nicole and the rich hedge fund husband are still together and this is a polytard situation. What the fuck, I thought Cliffe was relatively sane.
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mrae said:
In side character news, Nicole Cliffe caught herself a truck sized troon of her very own.

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“Stupid lesbian energy.” Just flaunt it in Mallory’s face, why don’t you. You were supposed to be her friend, dude, bet Moe regrets introducing Gretch to Nicole.
Potatis Salad said:
I thought the Nicole Cliffe thing must be a joke, but the troon is confirming it in Twitter replies. He also confirms that Nicole and the rich hedge fund husband are still together and this is a polytard situation. What the fuck, I thought Cliffe was relatively sane.
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Moe must be seething. If only she was a real guy who trooned, (mtf) she could larp as a lesbian with the love of her life, too. Nicole only likes men & bank accounts, even if they call themselves lesbian. At least Moe has a monkey pox badge consolation prize.

I know some women about Mallory & Nicole’s ages, (35-45) one of whom had a good marriage, two kids, all that jazz, & broke it all up, to date a mtf troon, then start “low dose T” herself & claim she is transmasc, non-binary, bs, etc. I think it’s the new black for women who are hitting midlife crisis. This gives new insight into Cliffe hanging off the Laverey’s balls, a few years ago, too. She’s taking a dip in the pool herself now.
 
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mrae said:
The Jesus thing was never going to last post-Ortberg fallout.
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"I've discovered the Real form of Christianity which--wouldn't you know it--aligns entirely with Trump's platform/Bernie's platform/the constant indulgence of my insane sexual whims" is not exactly a new thing among online people. I doubt she'll formally renounce anything.
 
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Potatis Salad said:
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Joe clearly also thinks it's a badge of being kweer + totally getting laid.

I thought the Nicole Cliffe thing must be a joke, but the troon is confirming it in Twitter replies. He also confirms that Nicole and the rich hedge fund husband are still together and this is a polytard situation. What the fuck, I thought Cliffe was relatively sane.
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Nicole Cliffe has been problematic, just in her own special way. Nothing huge to point to off the top of my head, but she's that sort of early-middle-age hypergamous liberal "tastefully self-promoting" gadfly that is, on varying scales, essentially every Insta-mom influencer.

She's here and there on platforms; benefited as the more linear, less autistic writing partner of fka Mallory; did a sometimes- level-headed and coherent job on Slate giving parenting advice but kicked off out of there pretty quickly; Found Jesus And Announced It; nastily dropped gossip about Prince William (and Jeff Goldblum, iirc); married way way up...and I guess now is embracing her kink with whatever-the-fuck-that-person-is.

All of these people use their lives as their material from which to profit, in notoriety or money. She's gross like the rest of them, and unlike nee Ortberg, Cliffe is not confused, noor the result of either Ortberg-scale fucked-up family dynamics or exploitation by an AGP spouse who loves her solely because he can manipulate her. Cliffe is just about personal aggrandizement.
 
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Mallory should probably let someone who's at higher risk of contracting monkeypox have that vaccine. Like an actual gay man, for example.
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What a lunatic. There's a timeline where COVID never happened and this tweet is probably about how the smallpox vaccine is really a "queer vaccine" and that everyone needs to avoid it.
 
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mrae said:
In side character news, Nicole Cliffe caught herself a truck sized troon of her very own.

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Godddd, this is going to be a TRAINWRECK.

To get a sense of the dynamics we're working with here (text-based since photos are still not working for me):
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@thenoasletter: when i read that nicole cliffe and gretchen felker martin were dating my immediate thought was “remember when nicole donated to pete buttigieg because he helped pay for her abortion so gretchen called her a fascist” so it might be time for me to get off the internet forever

@thenoasletter: why did one of nicole’s best friends like this tweet
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From Micah's words:
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@scumbelievable: oh we got in a huge stupid fight bc she'd donated to pete buttigieg's campaign and i found the public record of it and shot my mouth off not knowing it was solely a personal gift because he'd saved her from getting assaulted years before

@scumbelievable: it was honestly a gigantic mess and -- through no fault of hers -- it almost wound up costing me the deal for MANHUNT, but i got in touch to apologize a little while later and we ended up hitting it off, talking about horror. one thing led to another!
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This is Nicole. Feel Free to Confirm It's Me By Asking My Friends Who Have Been Really Tolerant About Constantly Being Texted "I LOOOOOOVE HEERRRRR"
I've been so giddy and happy all day that we have officially told everyone we are girlfriends. I told my dad and brother and gay aunt today.

I am besotted, I am a fool, I'm obsessed with her brain and heart and HUGELY obsessed with her fat body (she loves me telling people how much I love her fatness) which is just acres of delicious creamy skin. I think I was the first one to say "I have a crush on you" following like two years of horror recommendations and discovering we share exquisite tastes.

But you never know until you see someone, and for the rest of my life, I will be able to remember her walking into our hotel suite and that we were officially goners from that moment on. We each think we are the one who bagged the best girlfriend, which is excellent (also it was me, I bagged this gorgeous genius, I am the lucky one.) Also I think our initial fight was both of our faults so I refuse to let her take the blame.

Steve [her husband] has been amazing and I promise that my plan is to spoil and protect and adore Gretchen forever. Every day i'm like MY LADY NEEDS SILK PILLOWCASES or whatever. I love her and I love doting on her and I love being cuddled in her boobs while watching horror movies. And she loves my work and I love her work.

Have a nice day! I miss most of you very very much.
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🤢

Also here's a fun Reddit thread of people who follow them reacting to the news:
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Allegedly Micah used to hate the Laverys too lmao, but now he is cooing about Mallory's dogs. And also allegedly they only see each other a few times a year, lol again!

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"I've discovered the Real form of Christianity which--wouldn't you know it--aligns entirely with Trump's platform/Bernie's platform/the constant indulgence of my insane sexual whims" is not exactly a new thing among online people. I doubt she'll formally renounce anything.
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She won't renounce, for sure. Her conversion story was always very "I believe in God now but I will not change a single other thing in my life." She talks about it like it was a purely emotional experience, and it's not like the Ortbergs were ever going to be great mentors on that front. And leftie Christians get more mileage out of being "in" and telling everyone they're wrong than being "out" and raging about evangelicalism (Mallory should have known this!).
 
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Being called a fascist for supporting a Democratic candidate who helped you get an abortion and said brave and stunning trans woman nearly having their awful book cancelled so they called to grovel is such a typical love story. How many of these to do we need to hear about in a month?
 
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Trianon said:
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That reads like a cultist’s devotional to her guru.

I thought Nicole was some hedge fund trophy wife type, Joker-esque plastic surgery included, and would be much further out from the social circles an unemployed loser like Gretchen wallows in. But after taking a look at her instagram and her filthy, shabby looking McMansion she’s not really rolling in cash, is she? The husband must’ve checked out long ago.
 
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God, Nicole sounds utterly deranged. It's like all the devotional energy she used to bestow on Mallory had no place to go and she latched on to the next person who showed her some attention. The whole thing screams midlife crisis. Joe is probably cursing himself that he picked the wrong Toast founder - Micah gets all the money and ego boost without even having to live near her.
 
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OttoWest said:
That reads like a cultist’s devotional to her guru.

I thought Nicole was some hedge fund trophy wife type, Joker-esque plastic surgery included, and would be much further out from the social circles an unemployed loser like Gretchen wallows in. But after taking a look at her instagram and her filthy, shabby looking McMansion she’s not really rolling in cash, is she? The husband must’ve checked out long ago.
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Mal must be on suicide watch. Previously she simply could not be the lesbo girlthing of the successful hedge fund wife who married upwards and now she's been cucked by someone even more deranged and disgusting than herself, poor woman simply can't compete. May whichever god she believes in grant her inner strength.
 
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Late but the interviewer’s question to Joe - “how can you be so sure? “ - was way too subtle for the man. She was asking how he knows due to not having a vagina and big mommy milkers, since that is what Joe is saying feminists think they are. Love how he said “through research & teaching” and not, like, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE via being a true & honest woman. The worst troons are the ones who 100% know they are lying.
 
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