Would reinstating conscription be a good way to reduce murders?

[William]

I heard such an opinion in a radio show yesterday, and I thought the idea was dumb, so naturally I thought "why not ask Q&A?".

 

[TheRedChair]

Murder is more related to culture than whether or not there's conscription.

For example, Japan also has no mandatory military service for all, and yet the murder rate is lower than in the USA.*

*(despite a recent tragedy)

However when they do it is BIG. Secondly there is a great deal that does not get reported in Japan due to cultural ideologies and viewpoints. So actual numbers are going to be skewed. Yes murders are a hell of a lot lower than many countries in Asia.
But they got more serious issues in less than 10 years rearing it's ugly head. It took Japan 20+ years to get out of it's so called "Lost Decade" where Japan lost it's status as a Super Power and they never really got it back. Yes Japan was a defacto Super Power in the 80s' and very early 90's. What coming is because of their inflexible culture, socially in many ways is the reason why they will have more elderly people than the youth.

The 2 movies from the US "Black Rain" and "Rising Sun" from that time period, the foundation of it all, well there is some real fact to both shows.

Japan is a beautiful place to visit BUT not to live if you were a Gaijin like me.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

However when they do it is BIG. Secondly there is a great deal that does not get reported in Japan due to cultural ideologies and viewpoints.

So the murder rate is still lower than in the USA, but higher than what's reported?

How does the culture inhibit reporting murders?

 

[TheRedChair]

So the murder rate is still lower than in the USA, but higher than what's reported?

How does the culture inhibit reporting murders?

The Question should be, how does "A" Culture inhibit reporting murders.

In Asia there is something called "Saving Face". In Japan they take pride in their almost insane ideology of the illusion of orderly neatness, the 90+% jail rate for criminals as well as other things that are the "Pride of Japan". They as a culture have that "CAN DO" work ethic. These are the things that are projected as part of the Japan Culture. And in many ways rightly so. Overall they are a safe place to be in. That is not the issue with me.

The issue is, "If it is that safe why the Yakuza even exist"? "What and how things are being reported"?

I do not believe all of the material countries put up online stating statistics on certain things. I live long enough to see the double speak in society in order to give the illusion to the masses. I have seen the Evil of people coming from different parts of the world, while the reasons are by culture and the what part of the world they come from, the core aspect is still the same. I've seen the type of evil that puts you to either fight... or flight... And Fuck that shit, you better believe that I ran as being a "Rambo" will get you killed.

Even in Japan, when you fall in the cracks in that society, you really fall in the cracks of that society. IMHO, especially in 3rd world countries, it is easier to claim someone died of natural causes then one being poisoned. Someone drowned but how did that person really drowned? Less paperwork to deal with. The person is dead... case closed and be done with.

I did a little bit of research years ago about the homeless in Japan because of what happened to me. It was just something I wanted to do as one time I was so hyped about the culture in itself. How clean things were. How polite people were. They had that massive work ethic that I seen first hand and when they partied, they absolutely partied hard.

So I figured that a powerful country like Japan at the time (80's-90) they must have a good infrastructure for retirement, taking care of the Elderly and the homeless. However when I was finished I became rather upset at the time as the Illusion of Japan as a almost paradise what just that. An illusion to hide the flaws of that country. I had to re-evaluate my feelings on dealing with that country. In the end I stopped because I had those bad feelings on what I've gone through in the past.

IMHO you won't see the brazen types of murders, it just doesn't fit that culture that way, If it was Brazen then it was sent as a message (like what happened to Abe). IMHO that is why in Japan if you are really kill someone you either go all out or you do it as subtle manner as possible.

Underreporting happens for many different reasons in many many parts of the world.

In the US we are in a culture that makes sure that the person died of natural causes. This is because of our history of people killing people with nefarious means, especially in the mid to late 18 centuries. I used to work in the Death Industry in the US so I got some uptake on the history of dying.

Japan is very safe place to be in. If you want to use the reported statistics then yes they do have the some of the lowest murder rates in the world. I just believe like other countries in the world is they underreport and overreport things to make their country better than what it really is. US included.

But that is part of their culture to show the outside world the idealism of Japan. But if you pull back that veneer of what many people could say a sense of wholesomeness, you will find the same problems that affect all civilized countries. The raw primal emotions that all humans beings have. We as Homo Sapians have killed off all of our rivals in our history to the point that we wage war against ourselves.

And what I have seen in life, Violence is one of the evils we have to deal with in order to survive.

 

[Shitposting boogeyman]

Murderers get to kill shitskins overseas and society gets an easy way to dispose of murderers

Not how murder works.