Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

I think we can close the book on this one.

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Has the FB group not been flooded with power levelling tales of other people being attacked by, or tripping over their pet rabbits yet?

If playing with the rabbit caused this, why did she bring it into hospital and set it on his bed?

If the accidentally hanging happened while playing with the bunny, surely it’s presence would be a stressful reminder for Archie? She could retroactively concoct a story about his heart rate shooting up when he got the visit from the furry offender.
 

As much as I disagree with Hollie for putting Archie through this, this video has given me the feels. It's just a tiny glance into how shitty her life has been for the past 3 months. Stuck in that horrible room with no view and no privacy with only the nursing staff and her son's lifeless body for company the majority of the time. She'll have been spending so much time on Facebook because there's nothing else for her to do with her days. Unable to ask Archie how he's feeling, she's become fixated on the monitor because its the only way for her to monitor how he is. There's something pitiful in knowing that she's been told numerous times that there is no blood flow to his brain but she persists in waving a flashing kid's fairground toy in front of his eyes in a futile attempt to do something.

All her family and friends who are backing her are even more to blame. She needs those close to her to tell her that it's ok and she can stop, even if its difficult to say and she doesn't want to hear it.
 
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Totally agree. She's obviously clutching at anything and everything rather than face the reality of what their lives have become the past months. Those around her have been ghoulish when they should have been supporting the family to come to terms with it.

As a person, I don't like who she seems to be, but as a mother I can't even imagine the pain of knowing my child was gone. I feel very lucky to know I have people around me that care enough about me that would be helping me in this situation.
 
As much as I disagree with Hollie for putting Archie through this, this video has given me the feels. It's just a tiny glance into how shitty her life has been for the past 3 months. Stuck in that horrible room with no view and no privacy with only the nursing staff and her son's lifeless body for company the majority of the time. She'll have been spending so much time on Facebook because there's nothing else for her to do with her days. Unable to ask Archie how he's feeling, she's become fixated on the monitor because its the only way for her to monitor how he is. There's something pitiful in knowing that she's been told numerous times that there is no blood flow to his brain but she persists in waving a flashing kid's fairground toy in front of his eyes in a futile attempt to do something.

All her family and friends who are backing her are even more to blame. She needs those close to her to tell her that it's ok and she can stop, even if its difficult to say and she doesn't want to hear it.

You have a kind heart for thinking this, but I am super NOPE on this one, sorry.

The only person making her stay there for 3 months is her. All I see in that video is a self-indulgent mom who is making her feelz more important than the reality of everyone else around her. A big ole private room, a ton of resources, doctors and nurses pulled away from sick but ALIVE little girls and boys who need them. To tell Hollie for the thousandth time that her kid is dead and sponge bathe a corpse.

I'm sorry that her son died, but she needs to go and use the time of people who deal with that. A priest, a minister, a grief counsellor. No doubt there are staff right there in the hospital whose job is to help with that.

There are probably grieving mothers in that hospital right now who are putting their feelings aside so that their kids organs can be used to help another child live.

There are mothers letting busy doctors go on with their rounds even though they would love to discuss their kid's health for much, much longer because they know these staff are vital and are needed for other patients.

Hollie is entitled to her grief, but she is NOT entitled to suck a second of a medical professional's time away from a cancer patient or a scared living child. What she is doing is profoundly selfish and unfair.
 
Hollie is entitled to her grief, but she is NOT entitled to suck a second of a medical professional's time away from a cancer patient or a scared living child. What she is doing is profoundly selfish and unfair.
We think that because we aren't experiencing it and it's a lot easier to say that "I wouldn't do this" or pointing to another parent, who probably isn't dealing with the potential that their 12 year old kid hates them or their life so much, who chose the right thing

Part of the truth to this really could be that she wholeheartedly believes that he's alive and in a coma and that the doctors are against her and are trying to kill him. Bit of a psychosis if you will, not unusual in a stressful situation and drugs probably don't help that either. Now she has a group of people who are enabling her for their own entertainment or because they're crazy conspiracy nuts

Some of the stuff being thrown around is making her sound like a psychopath who's knowingly doing everything with the corpse of her son just for money or attention. Honestly, the truth is probably that the money is a nice little extra on the side given everything that is happening but not a straight up priority which she calculates all her actions on
 
She needs those close to her to tell her that it's ok and she can stop, even if its difficult to say and she doesn't want to hear it.
I imagine she's hissed and pissed at anyone who has so far and cut off contact with them for condoning the murder of her already dead son. She's been told, she knows, and now she's just being a litigious cunt to direct her guilt at everyone else made to deal with her antagonistic narcissism via reanimation of a corpse she is ultimately responsible for.

Her free pass for empathy ceased to exist months ago. She is not a caring mother on the same level as other parents in that hospital with their dying and sick children, and her display of "grief" is self serving at this point to deny reality at the cost of everyone forced to deal with what she refuses to. She's denying reality to conceal her guilt, not her grief at this point. The taxpayers, staff, legal system, media circuit entertaining her gross lies to do emotional labour for something that is hers to deal with via appropriate channels. No sympathy. She's now desecrating her son's body and everyone else in their right mind in this situation would have a bit of fucking taste and stop using their kid's corpse for narc fuel.

Some of the stuff being thrown around is making her sound like a psychopath who's knowingly doing everything with the corpse of her son just for money or attention.
I can't edit my post to reply to you so double post but you seem to have forgotten her posting a picture of her preteen in a diaper and making up stories about how her son died that betray his intelligence with any form of media that will listen.

There's grieving and then there's that gross display. You're giving her the benefit of the doubt when she's proven this is performative and nothing to do with Archie's dignity or health at this point. Eventually you surpass "upset parent in denial stage of grief" and end up at this point where you're just being revolting because you have a pathological need to involve everyone in your narrative that absolves you of wrongdoing.
 
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I recognise the logo on his vest there. South Essex Gymnastics Club. Max Whitlock (Olympic gold medalist) trains at their facility. If Archie was on their books and commuting to their gym, it shows they were serious about it.

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Catching up on the last 20 pages of this thread. This facility is one of the only gymnastics-dedicated gyms in Essex. IIRC if you see an Olympian on the books, this isn’t where their primary coach resides, but is more of the closest convenient facility for maintenance practice. They also get priority in space/equipment use.

Many of the childrens classes are medium to large groups, and the coaches are people who once upon a time were in that class and now coach as a way to pay for their own gym time. The youngest I knew of was 14-16 and assistant coach. The gym itself isn’t necessarily an indication of prospects, anyone can join if you pay- theres even daytime classes for local SEN schools.

There’s two main facilities, one where many begin classes, and another where you train children who are on a team or have been talent spotted from the initial gym and are pegged to be team material soon.

Both gyms have large viewing windows for parents to watch training sessions, and the mothers do compete via their children. I.e. if one child does something impressive, they like to check who’s kid it is. Coaches can be called in from another building to see this child specifically, which creates animosity between the other kids whose session has been effectively paused to show a coach this child.

Watching kids for mental health concerns is a bit lax here. The classes are age-mixed and there can be issues where a child who is 15-16 is in the same group as a child aged 10-12. This exposes younger kids to topics of discussion like weight. There’s also little done about older kids mentioning things about younger kids starting puberty (comments like they haven’t shaved their armpits yet and that’s gross, or they haven’t figured out how much deodorant is too little or too much yet, or their gym clothes are from ebay not the gym shop on site, are made among older kids in conversation with coaches they view as friends, while the younger child is in ear shot). I know at least three kids who were self harming during their time there (ages 10, 13 and 15 at the time) and one selling homework to other kids (aged 12), not necessarily due to the gym, but the atmosphere of the sport likely doesn’t help.

Children with Olympic level prospects can and do train here, but not as their primary facility unless parental support or financial support is lacking.

I cannot see validity to the briefly floated nonce theory, there’s a lot of transparency between coaches and parents and parents are encouraged to be present during practice as often as they can be and there is never a singular coach responsible for a singular child alone in a room without other coaches, athletes, guardians or teachers (SEN carers) present or in eye-shot.
 
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She needs those close to her to tell her that it's ok and she can stop, even if its difficult to say and she doesn't want to hear it.

(Formatting issues on mobile.) We had to tell Mother to look at the bag of meat on the bed and tell us she thought it was still Dad. He went downhill quickly, so it was a genuine shock. We were prepared to give her a couple of days to accept it, but then she asked for a dramatic intervention. When we saw shunts in Dad's essentially deceased abdomen we told her he'd be appalled. She waited another few days for a significant date and then freed him. It was Hell.
 
So if you put things in REALLY REALLY BIG LETTERS on a video that got mirrored on a non-private account it totally means something.

"In Air" means that he's not taking ANY spontaneous breaths. Not what Hollie states it means.

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The "charity" event raised $1,000 for Hollie herself:
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This girls story came up yesterday in a discord chat and the similarity to Hollie is striking. Morgan Ingram. Young woman kills herself. Absolutely standard uncontroversial overdose of her own psych drugs after an altercation with the mother. Mother is an overbearing nightmare, girl is a gifted burnout and rather than acknowledge whats happened the mother has created a whole fantasy world of stalkers to try and frame local people for murder.
She's still at it 9 years later.

Sword and scale have 2 episodes about it well worth a listen total rabbit hole.

Also further to Archie's chocolate cake why on earth haven't the doctors thought of this?

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Doesn't look like the case is being live streamed so will have to wait for the outcome this evening.
I just want to thank/blame you for this link, I’ve spent the last week reading Toni’s blog, and then looking into Morgan’s autopsy/toxicology reports, and her SM’s before and after mom sanitized them. 10/10 great time waster, so cheers thanks a lot.
 
Hollie does seem to know his medication/treatments well, or she's asked the nurse to go over them before the recording but she has mentioned misspelt medication before too, so she's absorbing something from these medical professionals. Just not really the 'right' things it seems
A pity, she’s probably got half a brain in that skull of hers and could have been a nurses assistant or something in another life, but it’s not like people with happy and stable lives become pole dancers ya know?
 
I'm sorry that her son died, but she needs to go and use the time of people who deal with that. A priest, a minister, a grief counsellor. No doubt there are staff right there in the hospital whose job is to help with that.
I could sympathize with this while finding it foolish in the extreme, but this evil bitch has continually told outrageous lies about the medical personnel who have moved fucking mountains trying to keep this potato alive. If you wonder why there's a shortage of medical personnel and nurses in particular, horrific cunts like this are why.

Imagine putting years into your education to help people, and blood, sweat and tears to keeping them alive, and this ungrateful whore comes along and basically spends months accusing you of murder and trying to whip up a lynch mob against you.

Fuck this bitch and may she burn in Hell.
 
I could sympathize with this while finding it foolish in the extreme, but this evil bitch has continually told outrageous lies about the medical personnel who have moved fucking mountains trying to keep this potato alive. If you wonder why there's a shortage of medical personnel and nurses in particular, horrific cunts like this are why.

Imagine putting years into your education to help people, and blood, sweat and tears to keeping them alive, and this ungrateful whore comes along and basically spends months accusing you of murder and trying to whip up a lynch mob against you.

Fuck this bitch and may she burn in Hell.
I could understand at most maybe holding onto the life support for a week or so. But...
 
Figure ya here Dignity for All since ya capped the vid from here. It was mirrored onto her public account she seems to do so with all videos/posts so it never was really private to begin with. One of her followers also shared it on their account publicly and then got yelled at by an admin when caught.

On another note, Paisley's mother admited in a Q&A that disappeared before I could cap it stating that she does not use any nurses, etc. in Paisley's care because she knows her daughter better then them.
 
"In Air" means that he's not taking ANY spontaneous breaths. Not what Hollie states it means.
That's not correct, she's saying he has an FiO2 of 21% (fractionated oxygen, 21% is same as room air).

She doesn't mention his ventilator mode, which is likely on something like SIMV (synchronised intermittent minute ventilation) which will breathe a certain amount of breaths per minute for the patient as a minimum if the patient doesn't trigger their own breath. If they do take their own breath it will support the breath with the prescribed amount of pressure. This mode is used when your patient isn't yet reliably breathing on their own and you don't want them to have to "fight" with the vent, and/or you want to see if the patient is starting to breathe on their own.
You can tell if the patient triggers their own breath as it will look different on the screen (and will be recorded on the patient data).

She doesn't mention this because she either doesn't understand how the ventilator works or she wants to be selective in how she presents how "well" her child is. Or both.
 
I could understand at most maybe holding onto the life support for a week or so. But...

It's a funny thing. I used to work a job where my role was basically saying 'no' to squeaky wheels because we had axels that were about to snap in two that needed the help instead. I was good at this, because although I am a bleeding heart most of the time, I have a profound sense of justice and a really stubborn inclination to help people who are just quietly trying to get on with things, because I like that type a hell of a lot better.

One thing I learned is that people really want to fix the problem of the crying, distressed person in front of them. Partly so they'll just stop being distressed already, because all human beings find that uncomfortable and want it to stop. But also partly because they want to be a savior. Everyone wants to be profoundly thanked for their generosity, for seeing the good in the person when no-one else can, blah blah blah.

It's this impulse that is propelling a lot of the tranny movement. Grown ass men wailing, I am so sad and I just need this one little thing and the wimminz are being so mean to me! But soothing that person means throwing someone else really vulnerable under the bus, like a woman in prison who cannot get her case in front of the media, and no-one cares anyway because she's like, a criminal and everything. It's easy to categorize that as 'being kind' and preen yourself over being a hero, when all you really did was do what the loudest thing wanted, and let down the vulnerable thing because all it could do was speak very quietly in its own defense.

That's Hollie, making herself the loudest, most pitiable thing so that people will want to swoop in and save her. Trust me, there are always a bunch of swoopers. It's a lot harder to say, your time's up, lady, your grief is excessive, your case is hopeless, get out of the goddamn way and let these nice professionals care for living kids who need it.

But it is the right thing to do, even if you feel like an utter cunt doing it. I know, because people used to whisper-confess to me in the canteen that I was right and they were glad I did it so they didn't have to.
 
So if you put things in REALLY REALLY BIG LETTERS on a video that got mirrored on a non-private account it totally means something.


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Archie's not on a load of medication. Goes on to list a crap load on meds that he's on round the clock (not including the ones that he'll have as needed).

She also thinks that 10% vasopressin is better than 50% because she doesn't understand it's a concentration. She thinks if Archie is on 10% vaso that means "he's making the other 90% himself".
 
You can tell if the patient triggers their own breath as it will look different on the screen (and will be recorded on the patient data).

If you look at the video they posted of that other kid who was “brain dead” but recovered, you can see where they ask him to breathe and the trace on the screen changes as he triggers a breath.

If Hollie really understood the medical stuff she’d understand he’s dead. She hasn’t a clue, she’s just parroting what she’s hearing.
 
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