Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

[Potatis Salad]

What in the fucking fuck is this, "Gretchen" is obviously just taking what he can get but Nicole Cliffe is out of her mind.





The moobs:

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

Is she trying to make her husband jealous by "dating" this troony lump of lard?

 

[rocknrollmartian]

Nicole Cliffe is not fat but has crazy eyes and an unappealing mask-like face. She looks much older than 39 as well. I think she's unhinged and finds desperate trannies to be little pets she can use and manipulate. Sad people like "Gretchen" lap up the attention and follow her around like a fat ugly dog.

 

[Swimminglanes]

"I am besotted, I am a fool, I'm obsessed with her brain and heart and HUGELY obsessed with her fat body (she loves me telling people how much I love her fatness) which is just acres of delicious creamy skin"

I wonder if she's been roped in to rub Sudocrem into the stinking red superating folds underneath the acres yet.

 

[3MMA]

Is she trying to make her husband jealous by "dating" this troony lump of lard?

Could be. Was thinking the husband might sign off on this so he could get some side trim, too. Otoh, he could just be a regular whipped/ cuck, take your pick. The weird thing is, this troon chungus is such a step down. Who actually hangs with, let alone hooks up with the troon who writes JKR death fanfic? We know Cliffe loves spectacle & drama llama people & things, but, the fanfic troon is a strange choice.

Nicole Cliffe is not fat but

Exactly. She likes a project, look at her old “bff” Mallory. Gretch is a stretch though. She must of been real tired of her day in, day out. It took me a moment to recall that this troon is the hack who wrote that “troons on the run from terfs, JKR death scene porn,” guy.

"I am besotted, I am a fool, I'm obsessed with her brain and heart and HUGELY obsessed with her fat body (she loves me telling people how much I love her fatness) which is just acres of delicious creamy skin"

Now Nicole is just trying hard here, to make both fat Laverey’s seethe.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

This is so on-brand for Mallory that it's painful. Recall that the highest-profile thing she's ever done was to sum up Black Mirror as "what if phones but too much," which Charlie Brooker thought was hilarious and he put it into several Black Mirror episodes as Easter eggs, and then Mallory got mad because she didn't like Black Mirror and couldn't stand to see Charlie Brooker scoring off of her. She decides in advance what fuck-you positions she's going to take--fuck you, Mom! Fuck you, Black Mirror! Fuck you, mainstream society!--and then she'll defend them beyond all reason because they're part of her "look" now. It's funny how the ones who claim not to care what people think of them turn out to be the ones who care the most about maintaining their edgy outsider image.

Now I gotta watch that show. Heard a lot of people talk about it but never bothered. Lol Mallory let herself get genuinely trolled by a fucking TV show. Shouldn't bother doing any media criticism as a fairly well-read author at one time if she couldn't take the heat. Artists and writers often mock their critics in direct and indirect ways.

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Mallory should probably let someone who's at higher risk of contracting monkeypox have that vaccine. Like an actual gay man, for example.


GFM looks like he weighs himself on a "cosmic scale"
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Okay, I take offense to this. Gay men are the highest risk group by far and she's taking away something that could have actually really helped them. All to validate her own gender identity as a man when she is neither gay nor a man. She ends it with "lmao" bc she knows it's not a serious concern for her. Mallory Ortberg aka Daniel Lavery is a homophobic piece of shit.

 

[rocknrollmartian]

Mallory Ortberg aka Daniel Lavery is a homophobic piece of shit.

All troons are homophobic and misogynistic. Mal is just trying to fit in!

But seriously, she's a POS.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Excellent new milk! I am so glad I checked this thread even though Joe and Mallory have been so boring lately that I'd lost interest.

I agree that Gretchen is a project. Which means (thanks to Nicole's cash and influence) we are going to probably see him get a lot more cultural influence in the near future. I'm fine with that, given that he is up there with Lia Thomas in terms of peaking material.

That reads like a cultist’s devotional to her guru.

I thought Nicole was some hedge fund trophy wife type, Joker-esque plastic surgery included, and would be much further out from the social circles an unemployed loser like Gretchen wallows in. But after taking a look at her instagram and her filthy, shabby looking McMansion she’s not really rolling in cash, is she? The husband must’ve checked out long ago.

Plenty of wealthy women (and men) have flings like this though. I guess he's her bit of rough.

I am just surprised that it's someone who looks like Gretchen. Dude's not just fat, he's got Michelangelo boobs:



Edit: you're right that her house looks like absolute shit though. What the hell is going on there?

 

[mrae]

I realized I hadn't seen a recent photo of Nicole in a long time. I have no idea why she chose to post this selfie, with her clutter framed prominently and her face frozen. The 'joker-esque' comment was right on, she looks freaky. Now I'm realizing why her husband has "been amazing" about all this.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Ugh that ugly tick tac head and prematurely aged face.

 

[maleteeming]

I realized I hadn't seen a recent photo of Nicole in a long time. I have no idea why she chose to post this selfie, with her clutter framed prominently and her face frozen. The 'joker-esque' comment was right on, she looks freaky. Now I'm realizing why her husband has "been amazing" about all this.

That clutter makes me think we'll be seeing an FTM arc from her.

Won't be called a Karen by SJWs if you identify out of white womenhood.

 

[behindyourightnow]

I realized I hadn't seen a recent photo of Nicole in a long time. I have no idea why she chose to post this selfie, with her clutter framed prominently and her face frozen. The 'joker-esque' comment was right on, she looks freaky. Now I'm realizing why her husband has "been amazing" about all this.

All the photos are like that! The house looks like shit, clutter everywhere. They've obviously still got money though from all the horse and skiing pics.

I'd actually interpret posting pictures like this as a kind of power play (being overly prissy about your house is a middle class thing; upper class people can afford to not care because they already have social power, so what are you going to do about it?) but given her recent actions I wonder what the hell is going on.

 

[Karen™]

Just when I thought these cows were getting a little dry, Cliffe comes in with this absolute masterpiece of a terrible decision! God bless. I hope she troons out, mostly because she would pass in a way Mallory could only dream of.

Also, there's a pretty funny thread where some brave kiwis are reading and roasting Micah's book about the TroonPocalypse here, if anyone's interested.

 

[afternoon_tea]

Imagine living in the deranged world where describing your lovers lard ass in terms of "acres" is considered a romantic compliment and not a horribly embarrassing insult.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

Imagine living in the deranged world where describing your lovers lard ass in terms of "acres" is considered a romantic compliment and not a horribly embarrassing insult.

It's not even original, just a love-bombingly syrupy re-hash of a delightful old Monty Python joke.

Worked infinitely better there.

 

[Trianon]

Excellent new milk! I am so glad I checked this thread even though Joe and Mallory have been so boring lately that I'd lost interest.

I agree that Gretchen is a project. Which means (thanks to Nicole's cash and influence) we are going to probably see him get a lot more cultural influence in the near future. I'm fine with that, given that he is up there with Lia Thomas in terms of peaking material.



Plenty of wealthy women (and men) have flings like this though. I guess he's her bit of rough.

I am just surprised that it's someone who looks like Gretchen. Dude's not just fat, he's got Michelangelo boobs:

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Edit: you're right that her house looks like absolute shit though. What the hell is going on there?

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Nicole's ENTIRE personality is about lavishing the poors with her enormous amounts of cash. She is so rich that she considers Pete Buttigieg poor. She wants to be everyone's sugar daddy because 1.) it gives her cred as a "good" rich person and 2.) she's not sure if people would like her otherwise. It doesn't surprise me that she purposefully would let her house fall to shit to prove that she just GIVES it all away! Mistress Princess needs new silk sheets!

This could also be her way of balancing the scales for almost costing Micah his book deal because he got mad that she gave her money to someone else. It really does feel like he's going to become one of those "kept troons" from his book. Nicole's comment about "acres of skin" is exactly how he describes the fat troons there. (That the terfs are secretly thirsting over! Always!)

Anyway, here's the element that makes this a ticking timebomb: Micah refuses to live in Utah. So there is no situation where they can take it to ~the next level without Nicole leaving Steve. Lol. Lmao.



Horror:


KiwiFarms mention:

 

[homewayhalf]

KiwiFarms mention:
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So dainty, so feminine. No one can tell! But really this man is scary as fuck. Absolute unit of a human who constantly writes about wanting to kill people. What a fucking psycho.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

In Gretch’s book, the two main characters are like, a bitter, “badass” fat trans woman who’s all about fuck the system and all that, and his friend who’s meant to be like, a Contra type. Thin, “pretty” but easily seduced by the charms of wealthy rich white women, who are basically demons in the book’s context.

To put it another way, Gretchen is basically LARPing as her own cautionary tale.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

That clutter makes me think we'll be seeing an FTM arc from her.

Won't be called a Karen by SJWs if you identify out of white womenhood.

Why go FTM? She already is looking MTF.

 

[Treasure Champs]

Also, there's a pretty funny thread where some brave kiwis are reading and roasting Micah's book about the TroonPocalypse here, if anyone's interested.

Anyone who has not seen this really ought to give it a skim. GFM is a rape fetishist who spins elaborate fantasies about all the ways he wants to hurt women who disagree with him. Worse, he's an absolutely abysmal writer. Like.... teen fan fiction bad, think, you can't figure out who is supposed to be speaking because correct speech tagging is beyond him, random impossible stuff because he's not equated with the laws of physics, editor of any type MIA. Every sentence dripping with contempt for women.

This new development is.... er, something. But yay, good for the thread that had become a bit dull. Also as you can probably tell from GFM's darling wish that we should all burn alive, he has NO CHILL WHATSOEVER and frequently writes amusing and unhinged stuff on twitter that offends even normies like "all books should have rape in them".

In other words, a hilarious cow whose cross into this thread is going to be fun.