Crime (Update) Arrest Made in Rape of Ohio 10-Year-Old Who Had to Travel Out of State for Abortion

Link: https://www.thedailybeast.com/colum...o-traveled-to-indiana-for-abortion?ref=scroll
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An Ohio man was arrested Tuesday for raping a 10-year-old girl who became a central figure in the debate over abortion rights after she reportedly traveled to Indiana to have an abortion when Ohio outlawed the procedure last month.

Arrest records and court records viewed by The Daily Beast confirm that Gerson Fuentes, 27, was arrested Tuesday in Franklin County on a felony charge of raping a person under 13. The Columbus Dispatch, who first reported on his arrest, attended Fuentes’ arraignment in Columbus on Wednesday.

The unidentified girl’s plight became national news when the Indianapolis Star quoted a doctor who said a 10-year-old rape victim, who was six weeks and three days pregnant, had been forced to travel from her home in Columbus to Indiana for an abortion. Her home state had a trigger law that immediately outlawed abortions after six weeks once the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.

A Columbus Police detective, identified by the Dispatch as Jeffrey Huhn, testified in court Wednesday that the 10-year-old victim was impregnated and had an abortion in Indianapolis.


“The victim went out of state to have a medically terminated abortion,” he said, according to video of the arraignment.

The video showed Fuentes staring blankly during the arraignment and standing with a slouch as a translator relayed the proceedings to him in Spanish.

Court records say the alleged rape occurred on May 12. Detectives said in court that police were made aware of the girl’s pregnancy through a referral filed with the local child services’ branch by her mother on June 22. Eight days later, the girl had the abortion in Indianapolis.

The aborted fetus has since been tested for DNA and entered into evidence, Huhn said, and officials say Fuentes confessed to the rape when he was questioned.

Fuentes’ arrest comes as conservative media claimed the girl’s story was made up for political theater, something parroted by Fox News presenters as recently as Tuesday night—while Fuentes was already in custody.

But those also with egg on their face in light of the horrific crime: the top law-enforcement official in Ohio.

Indeed, state Attorney General Dave Yost spent much of the past week effectively dubbing the story a hoax, suggesting he had heard nothing about any such crime being reported.

“We have a decentralized law enforcement system in Ohio, but we have regular contact with prosecutors and local police and sheriffs,” Yost said in a Fox News segment Monday. “Not a whisper anywhere.”


Yost released a statement Wednesday afternoon that did not address his previous comments.

“My heart aches for the pain suffered by this young child,” he said. “I am grateful for the diligent work of the Columbus Police Department in securing a confession and getting a rapist off the street.”

Dr. Caitlin Bernard, the Indianapolis obstetrician-gynecologist who first described the rape and its aftermath to the Indy Star, previously told The Daily Beast she expected vindication.

“It will all come out in time,” she said via text message on Tuesday.


Court records show Fuentes is being held on a bond of $2 million. The judge said he was considered a flight risk and, given the brutality of the crime, a high bail was necessary to protect the child involved.

—with reporting by Pilar Melendez

 

[derpherp2]

@derpherp2

I'm specifically talking about the National Right To Life org:

National Right to Life | The nation's oldest & largest pro-life organization

www.nrlc.org

You'd have to find a press release to know if it was actually that org, or some rando group that also had "right to life" in it's name.

I quoted an article here somewhere but I forgot the actual article itself.
On sec ill see if i can find it.
Found one better, the actual press release from 2018. Will keep digging to see if it's related tho.


https://irtl.org/ <- It is

We are a state-level affiliate of the National Right to Life Committee.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

If they want medical care they can pay for it themselves. Why should I pay for a kid I’m not even a father to through taxes?

Because "we live in a society", apparently.
"No man is an island", so everyone else's problems are now your problems, or so I'm told.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

Because "we live in a society", apparently.
"No man is an island", so everyone else's problems are now your problems, or so I'm told.

That's the correct take, in a homogenous civilization natoonnstate where the people shared a common,, language, history. The multi culti mousketeers will lead us to the same ruin as the Tower of Babel.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

That's the correct take, in a homogenous civilization natoonnstate where the people shared a common,, language, history.

I wholeheartedly disagree in any case, but I doubt this thread is the place for such a discussion.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

So the only update is that there is no update. Megan Fox from PJ Media is still trying to contact Franklin County but they ain't responding. Columbus police are saying that they cannot release a police report until after a conviction because it was reported by a mandated reporter, despite the mom being the one who reported it.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2022/07/18/ohio-10-year-old-rape-horror-spotlights-child-protection-agencies-and-lack-of-transparency-n1613385

https://archive.ph/5CWsF

I have a sinking feeling that this story will be memory holed and revised as time goes on. Remember to ARCHIVE EVERYTHING. An article can be stealth edited and journalistic ethics are pretty much dead in the era of clicks. A screen shot is nice but the article archived is even better.

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create a copy of a webpage that will always be up

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Columbus police are saying that they cannot release a police report until after a conviction because it was reported by a mandated reporter, despite the mom being the one who reported it

Are you completely incapable of reading, conservative?

The mom 'reported' it in the sense that she told the people who give her the child support "yo ese, my girl pregnant, how to abort baby".

Then the social worker asked "Excuse me ma'am, how old is your daughter again? Like TEN YEARS OLD???????"

And then the mom answered "Si".

THE FACT THAT THE MOTHER OF THIS CHILD ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS OF THE ACTUAL "MANDATED REPORTER" DOES NOT MAKE HER THE "MANDATED REPORTER". "MANDATED REPORTER" DOES NOT MEAN "THE FIRST PERSON TO MENTION THE CHILD WAS PREGNANT TO ANOTHER ADULT". EVEN THE RETARDED CONSERVATIVE SHITRAG YOU LINKED TO RECOGNIZES THIS.

Further, the termination of pregnancy report filed by Dr. Caitlin Bernard, who performed the abortion, listed the rapist as approximately 17 years old. Fuentes is 27, according to the court record. Someone isn’t telling the truth. How did that number get on that form and why?

BEANERS.

THE BEANER MOM AND DAUGHTER LIED.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST CONSERVATIVES ARE LOWER THAN DOGS.

 

[Chandelier]

Or just stop fucking like dogs.

And who does that, on a per capita basis? Oh I could think of a few things.
24% of Good catholic girls, man.

Spoiler

lol
Have you seen what the pro abortion camp think about gender?

Spoiler

And it's bullshit. Abortion is a woman's health issue. When gender theorists want to make it about 'people who get pregnant' it undermines the real issues women and girls face.

Abortion is going to keep happening. So is organ harvesting, sex trafficking, gay parades an every other nasty thing that nasty people do. What's your point? It's going to happen anyway, might as well make it tax deductible and shit?

You're not going to ban abortion. Much like organ harvesting, there'll be a black market for it. There is legal organ harvesting - where you consent to having your organs taken after you die. And why not make it tax deductible?
You want bans on abortion, when that has never worked. You can reduce its instance - with the solutions I offered. And no one seems willing to take it up because...well, it's too expensive.

Would it?

Again. What is your point? No shit she will have trauma either way. How the fuck is killing a child going to make another child's trauma any less?

Forcing a ten year old girl to give birth because of your personal politics and morals is, frankly, disgusting, Her body will tear itself apart carrying that child to term. This pro life view of 'I protect the baby at all costs, regardless of circumstances' really does lead to justification of child rape.

Spare me the emotional bitching. You miss my point.
Read it out loud. How the fuck does killing a child reduce the trauma of another child?
Where the fuck do you even see arguing for a rapist's rights, of such that I've stated multiple times, should deserve hanging?

I know your point perfectly: it's pro birth no matter what. You don't care about the child who was raped and impregnated. You only care about the potential fetus because that is part of your moral code. You're arguing for rapist's rights here, by arguing his spawn should be gestated inside an innocent victim.

"You're murdering babies! Therefore I demand this ten year old rape victim give birth because her death will save the life of a baby." That's not going into how the fetus will likely be malnourished and may not even survive.

It doesn't matter. You're the one arguing for the leftist doctrine, you should know how the left looks at 10 year olds and sex.

I'm not the one demanding a ten year old give birth here, buddy. That's on you. You're not being the moral superior here. In the name of life, you want a girl who is nowhere near prepared to gestate a child give birth.
Young maternal age is directly correlated with poor neonatal outcomes.

What are you trying to say here? That a child being raped multiple times suffers less trauma than a college student would? A college student would be better suited to handle the trauma on their own, perhaps, but the trauma is the same and the thing about trauma is that, as you've said, she was raped to puberty, in other words, she'd be in the same state of shock as anybody. I've seen what abuse can do to people, be it suffered a childhood from relatives or as an adult in a fucked up marriage. Trauma doesn't care about your age. Even more so, a child is better suited to cope with trauma doe to a 'simpler, more adaptive nature', if you will.

This is the weirdest, most fucked up logic I've ever heard. She's a child. The other example is a college student; a grown woman. If you know what abuse can do to people, why are you arguing that a ten year old should give birth and how she's a murderer?

Are you self loathing or something?
How do you change your bad habits? You go out killing people? Do you start cutting your wrists? Or do you take charge cut off things that are bad for you, replacing them with better things?
It's a cultural thing, can't say that shit enough times, apparently. I'd change the culture.

Nice bait. But no, I'm not defending child rape victims and demanding they give birth. That's on you, bud. Even other people here think this girl had a right to an abortion. She would have died from giving birth. That's from a scientific perspective: she's by no mean developed enough to carry it to term. It is an absolute tragedy, and people are politicizing it. It's very easy to see why.
You're not changing the culture, bud, because you offer no solutions. You just call little girls baby murderers even when she had no choice in the matter. There's no moral high ground for you here.

What kind of leftist are you that doesn't know that men can get pregnant now?

How are the child poverty rates in your leftist shitholes? Or do the children live like kings in LA among the hobos because of their prostitute status?

Imagine if the mother would have had an abortion. Or better yet, imagine her parents having had an abortion for her.
It would have solved everything. And the beaner couldn't have raped anyone that way.

Child poverty by US state.
Another source.
We know now the mom is pregnant by the very man who raped her daughter. It is clear she was protecting him over the health and safety of her own daughter. The daughter needs to be removed from the home ASAP.

@LurkTrawl

The law still would have required detecting the fetal heartbeat and informing the 10 year old of it's presence. That part of the law was crystal clear.

Section 2919.192 - Ohio Revised Code | Ohio Laws

codes.ohio.gov

Section 2919.193 - Ohio Revised Code | Ohio Laws

codes.ohio.gov

Spoiler

Condition - This is a fact about the situation


Physicians good faith medical judgement - This is the standard to be applied. The physician is to apply their medical training. Barring mental health.


At the time - no further information is required. The physician only needs the facts at hand.

necessitate (black's law):



That statute earlier defers to the doctors good faith judgement. It puts no conditions on the necessity or further guidance. The doctor alone determines whether the abortion was necessary under this exception to violating the statute. There are further requirements beyond necessary though

It also requires immediacy.

Immediate (Black's law):



This is important. You have to read the rest of the statute to see if the legislature clarifies a standard. They do - and clarify we are talking about temporal immediacy - delay.


Peformance or inducement - this is the act elsewhere defined as criminal.



This is the justification for the act. The legislature provided their own definitions. You use those rather than a law dictionary.

That brings us to the final part of the statute:



This clarifies the usage of immediate earlier. We are talking about immediate in the context of delay.

The statute puts that in the realm of medical judgement, not legal.

What does "immediate" mean in medicine when talking about situations that could result in death or severe injury? Exactly what immediate means - the smallest interval of time possible.

The statute requires that in a doctors best medical judgement, the abortion has to be both necessary and required immediately.

Can the abortion wait till tomorrow without substantially raising the risk. Then you have to conduct the ultrasound and tell the mother.

Ohio borrowed this part of the statute 100% from Right to Life's model heartbeat bill.

Even *if* the second exception allowed the abortion - the person who wrote that part of the statute (in 2016, this references indiana's bill currently being drafted. ) intended for her to have an ultrasound and be notified. He also believes she should have brought the pregnancy to term if possible.

10-year-old girl should have carried pregnancy to term, says lawyer w…

archived 17 Jul 2022 19:10:48 UTC

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Edit: My opinion is that if Ohio wishes to allow some abortions but not others, then they need to make it a matter for the medical board to review. Not a criminal statute.

I appreciate your rundowns of the situation. Informative and to the point.
Didn't the AG or something say she could have gotten an abortion under the exemption law, but as the fetus had a heartbeat she wasn't allowed?

Wait wait wait wait
"Right to Life" sounds familiar.
It's the organization that forced the Doctor's Organization/Hospital/Iforgotokaystfu to investigate her and find themselves of no wrongdoing. Alongside other similiar doctors with even more similiar MO's of gross negligence of laws they apparently don't agree with due to being in the exact opposite political spectrum.

Is this Political Grandstanding even fucking deeper than we realized? While at the same time being shallow?

Yes. The National Right to Life took over the pro life consciousness after Army of God and Operation Rescue (still in operation) wanted to move past the pipe bombs and Eric Rudolph manifestos. The lawyer for NRTL is in that Politico post for arguing the 10 year old would have given birth under Ohio's law. There's actually a neat grad thesis paper I found that goes into its history. It's pretty easy to read.

NRTL also investigates other doctors, including that Lena Torres (?) chick who infamously said she cuts the throats of fetuses. They jumped on her like quarry, and to be fair, that's a pretty gnarly thing to say. Keep it private. I don't know if they went after Danielle Jones (Mama Doctor Jones) but she might've been on their list. They represent the legal side of things, whereas Operation Rescue and the others are the more militant protesting side.

For this specific situation, we have AGs initially saying this is a hoax, it wasn't true, it was just abortionists shaming their state...and lo and behold, there's the illegal immigrant rapist, who the mom is protecting, and the poor child hoisted up as a petard by both sides. It is 100% shallow, and there is fuckery afoot, but at the end of the day this poor child went through so much shit and so-called conservatives were calling her a liar and/or murderer.

 

[derpherp2]

@Chandelier While this is a BOTH SIDES shit the fact of the matter is that this was started by a leftist site called IndyStar, spread by said leftist media (which given their history - ie. Fish Tank Liquid, the EXPERT FROM 4CHAN, and other miscellaneous bullshit means duh people don't trust them) and would have remained buried unless the 'conservatives' didn't raise a big enough stink about it.

Yeah I'm siding with the people that didn't try to hide a rapist. You know they labeled his age as 17 right?

BEANERS.

THE BEANER MOM AND DAUGHTER LIED.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST CONSERVATIVES ARE LOWER THAN DOGS.

Yeah sure totally, the people that have no idea how laws work knows the age of consent so well lmao.
Also there was already sperging about mandated reporters earlier dude, iirc her mom going all ABORTION SI? Doesn't count or some shit.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

@Chandelier

The lawyer for NRTL is in that Politico post for arguing the 10 year old would have given birth under Ohio's law.

You mean this one?

lol no

Bopp isn't talking about this case in that phone interview, I hope you realized. When he says:

“She would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape, we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child,” Bopp said in a phone interview on Thursday.

he's talking about his model legislation, indicated by the previous paragraph:

Jim Bopp, an Indiana lawyer who authored the model legislation in advance of the Supreme Court’s decision overturning Roe v. Wade, told POLITICO on Thursday that his law only provides exceptions when the pregnant person’s life is in danger.

He's speaking of a hypothetical "she", which is why there's no citation of him acknowledging the age of the girl in this case, or attempting to refute the idea that she would be in active danger by continuing the pregnancy, or any indication that POLITICO made Bopp aware of her age. It doesn't even look like they called him to discuss this case in any capacity.

What's worse about this is that his model legislation does allow for abortion in case of rape/incest, even if he doesn't quite like the idea:

While Bopp’s model legislation, which was released in advance of the Supreme Court’s ruling late last month, encourages states to ban all abortions unless necessary to save the life of the pregnant person, it notes “it may be necessary in certain states to have additional exceptions, such as for a women pregnant as a result of rape or incest.”

“Unless her life was at danger, there is no exception for rape,” Bopp said. “The bill does propose exceptions for rape and incest, in my model, because that is a pro-life position, but it’s not our ideal position. We don’t think, as heartwrenching as those circumstances are, we don’t think we should devalue the life of the baby because of the sins of the father.”

 

[Freya]

remember when conservtards kept saying it was fake news?

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

remember when conservtards kept saying it was fake news?

Nigger they didn't arrest the pedo til after PJMedia put out an article saying it reeked of bullshit.

 

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Yeah sure totally, the people that have no idea how laws work knows the age of consent so well lmao.

What the fuck is your argument? That I am arguing that the beaners engaged in some sophisticated lie where they were trying to pretend that the paramour of the child could potentially be within some 'romeo and juliet' law as opposed to just being stupid people telling stupid lies, almost as stupid as the lies told by conservatives?

Get it into your head. The mother 'reported' nothing. She wanted to get her daughter an abortion because it was inconveniencing her boyfriend. Social workers reported the fact that the child had been raped because they were legally obliged to do so because Ohio's 'r&j' exceptions don't apply for under 13s. The fact that subhuman conservative 'reporters' were too stupid to be able to confirm the incident happened only proves that they should be herded into camps and executed.

 

[Kiwisee]

The daughter should be removed from that home and her mom should be deported back to Mexico to prevent the birth of another anchor baby

 

[BelUwUga]

Nigger they didn't arrest the pedo til after PJMedia put out an article saying it reeked of bullshit.

Important correction: the mandated reporters did not even alert the authorities before going to the media about all of it.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Yeah it is really fucked up, and the mother going to bat for the rapist makes my blood boil, a real mother would have blown the pedo's head off, or beat him to death with a frying pan.

They're not sending their finest.

 

[derpherp2]

What the fuck is your argument? That I am arguing that the beaners engaged in some sophisticated lie where they were trying to pretend that the paramour of the child could potentially be within some 'romeo and juliet' law as opposed to just being stupid people telling stupid lies, almost as stupid as the lies told by conservatives?

Get it into your head. The mother 'reported' nothing. She wanted to get her daughter an abortion because it was inconveniencing her boyfriend. Social workers reported the fact that the child had been raped because they were legally obliged to do so because Ohio's 'r&j' exceptions don't apply for under 13s. The fact that subhuman conservative 'reporters' were too stupid to be able to confirm the incident happened only proves that they should be herded into camps and executed.

The argument is reee'ing like a retard with a paragraph no one's going to bother to read isn't going to magically make you right. Retard.
What was your "massive logic own" or whatever again?
That the mom, being a dumbass rapeshielding his boyfriend/babby daddy was being obtuse on the information?
Good job. Everyone already knows.
Oh what's that? You think she's the one who said that the 'boyfriend' was 17? Good job. And?

Like have you never actually seen actual journalism before or some shit? Or is PJM autistically smacking retarded inconsistencies like an ACTUAL FUCKING JOURNALIST just pissing you off that much because you can't own 'da conservatives' that way?
Like I get MATI, but you need to calm the fuck down. It's just journalistic retards.

 

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The argument is reee'ing like a retard with a paragraph no one's going to bother to read isn't going to magically make you right. Retard.
What was your "massive logic own" or whatever again?
That the mom, being a dumbass rapeshielding his boyfriend/babby daddy was being obtuse on the information?
Good job. Everyone already knows.
Oh what's that? You think she's the one who said that the 'boyfriend' was 17? Good job. And?

Like have you never actually seen actual journalism before or some shit? Or is PJM autistically smacking retarded inconsistencies like an ACTUAL FUCKING JOURNALIST just pissing you off that much because you can't own 'da conservatives' that way?
Like I get MATI, but you need to calm the fuck down. It's just journalistic retards.

lol cry more. People like you who follow cuckservative media are always terminally misinformed. It was obvious that this was real and simply involved a spic who probably voted for Trump raping the child of another spic with whom he was intimately involved from the first reports. Yet you keep on trying to find copes for how you actually weren't wrong.

 

[derpherp2]

lol cry more faggot. You losers who follow cuckservative media are always terminally misinformed. It was obvious that this was real and simply involved a spic who probably voted for Trump raping the child of another spic with whom he was intimately involved from the first reports. Yet you keep on trying to find copes for how you actually weren't wrong.

lol calm down.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

My nigga Chandelier,

And who does that, on a per capita basis? Oh I could think of a few things.
24% of Good catholic girls, man.

Oh wow lol
You're going to do this kind of shit?
I wonder where did those good Catholic girls get their ideas from.

You're not going to ban abortion. Much like organ harvesting, there'll be a black market for it.

That was my point, yes, thank you.

There is legal organ harvesting - where you consent to having your organs taken after you die. And why not make it tax deductible?

Because the government are morons and even if they would do that, they'd probably fail at regulating this shit properly, making "legal" organ harvesters able to abuse their consenting clients.

You want bans on abortion, when that has never worked. You can reduce its instance - with the solutions I offered. And no one seems willing to take it up because...well, it's too expensive.

Personally, I don't want to "ban" abortion, I want a definition of what is a human life and where it begins, because the only reasonable place to regulate its begining is conception, for if it is stated that human life is a human life sometime afterwards, again, the same problem of corporate abuse backed by legal regulation. I'm not even going to argue religion with people who spit in the name of Christ.

Forcing a ten year old girl to give birth because of your personal politics and morals is, frankly, disgusting, Her body will tear itself apart carrying that child to term. This pro life view of 'I protect the baby at all costs, regardless of circumstances' really does lead to justification of child rape.

Cute emotional rant.
How would an abortion reduce her trauma. That was the question.

I know your point perfectly: it's pro birth no matter what. You don't care about the child who was raped and impregnated.

Fuck you. I don't give a shit if the 'new rules' state you can't insult people anymore. This is an insult to me.
"oh, you no care care"
Fuck. Your. Ass.
Fucking carebear is going to abuse the argument, because she ain't got one besides crying tears lol

You only care about the potential fetus because that is part of your moral code. You're arguing for rapist's rights here, by arguing his spawn should be gestated inside an innocent victim.

I'm not even gonna.

"You're murdering babies! Therefore I demand this ten year old rape victim give birth because her death will save the life of a baby." That's not going into how the fetus will likely be malnourished and may not even survive.

You are literally murdering babies, this is not an emotional appeal, this is sheer fact, I don't even care if you care or don't that you murder babies, I care about why, and you still haven't answered me how would an abortion make the kid's trauma any less.

I'm not the one demanding a ten year old give birth here, buddy. That's on you.

I'm not the one going out of my way to churn fucked up sex ed into kids' minds through media and drag queen hours.
That's the left. Take your beef with them if you're so caring about kids getting knocked up.

You're not being the moral superior here. In the name of life, you want a girl who is nowhere near prepared to gestate a child give birth.

Already through this. You're the one making the emotional arguments here.

Young maternal age is directly correlated with poor neonatal outcomes.

And?

This is the weirdest, most fucked up logic I've ever heard. She's a child. The other example is a college student; a grown woman. If you know what abuse can do to people, why are you arguing that a ten year old should give birth and how she's a murderer?

I cannot believe these kind of people.
Here's another fucked up example then.
If I cut your fucking arm off, then cut the arm of a 10 year old off, which one of you will have more of their arm left?
Trauma works in the same way. You damage someone mentally, it doesn't matter how old they are, and as I have stated, there are studies that say, that a child can deal with trauma better than an adult can. If you find it fucked up that a young mind is better to overcome trauma than not, that's your problem lol
Also, if you so so care about kids, you should care more about the troon agenda and the leftist pedo push. I'm not saying that you don't care about that, but by the way you're arguing, I'd say you're a grade A leftist yourself.

Nice bait. But no, I'm not defending child rape victims and demanding they give birth. That's on you, bud.

lol
What's that saying about the merry go round going round and round over and over again?

Even other people here think this girl had a right to an abortion. She would have died from giving birth.

How do you know that?

That's from a scientific perspective: she's by no mean developed enough to carry it to term. It is an absolute tragedy,

It is a tragedy, you stupid fuck, and your whole argument is that tragedy equates to killing people.
In my case, if I was to kill anyone, I'd kill the rapist, but for some reason killing the baby is vital because prophetess Chandler has seen how the 10 year old mother will die trying to give birth.

and people are politicizing it. It's very easy to see why.

Yeah. Killing babies is a sensitive topic, especially after Roe was defeated by Wade. But I'm the despicable one, not the hordes of leftoids who'll abuse this tragedy to get their abortion banks back lol

You're not changing the culture, bud, because you offer no solutions.

I cannot believe this guy lol

You just call little girls baby murderers even when she had no choice in the matter. There's no moral high ground for you here.

Whaterever, retard. Fuck you.

 

[Kiwisee]

@CAPTAIN MATI

I think I can see what Chandelier was trying to say regarding how an abortion could be less traumatic than carrying it to term. It is a fucked situation all around and I personally think either way the girl is going to be severely further traumatized regardless of which option is taken.

However, it should be noted that just because one could menstruate it doesn’t mean that she’s physically capable of carrying to term without extensive medical intervention, assuming a miscarriage doesn’t happen prior. I recall reading in a medical textbook (don’t quote me on this, I need to look it again and will edit this post to share sources) that the bones around the pelvic usually takes anywhere from three to five years to even be halfway formed (usually not fully formed until 25-30, though technically being in your 20s is the best time for pushing out babies).

There’s no way a 10 year old would be able to accomplish the feat of being able to carry out the pregnancy safely in that circumstance, unless they’re under a lot of medical supervision… but what child would want to spend that much time being poked and prodded by devices after already going through the trauma of being raped? Unfortunately I don’t think many maternity wards in the USA are equipped for this specific situation.

It’s why in this instance, I wouldn’t blame the child for not wanting to go through any of that.

On the other hand…

In a sense, simply giving the child an abortion pill would be less physically traumatic than the alternative. She’d have to deal with passing a huge clot, and if she wasn’t told what was happening to her then she’d be none the wiser until told otherwise.

But thats just me low key kind of hoping that no one told her what the pill was for, because I can only imagine the devastation she’d be put through if she was told it was a pill meant to kill a baby in utero. When I was her age, the thought of dead babies was something that would have horrified me… and the idea of ending a life is something I don’t think I’d be able to fathom.

No matter what, I hope the best for the girl and that she gets the therapy she needs. I hope she grows up to not only be a better person than her mom, but that she also has a better judge of character when selecting men in her life.

The rapist shouldn’t just be charged with rape, but he should be held accountable for the abortion as well IMO. He committed murder by proxy and should burn in hell for causing all of this.

And spiritually, I hope she can forgive herself and never have to do this again.

Also; Trump’s wall would’ve prevented more shit like this happening on American soil. Simply telling Spics to not rape children isn’t good enough

Source on the hips sperging.