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Hotdogs Aplenty said:
Rrat: Why does Kaela hate Tempest? (Stream starting the same time :story:)
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she balanced it out because she also made sure to end her stream before their debut
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(you'd be surprised how often she seems to do this, blend one stream into the next)
 
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OK I'm way behind but around page 6010 you guys literally had 5-10 pages of people saying exactly the same thing about pippa interviewing the miao guy, live commenting the ENTIRE stream. STOP. This thread already moves way too fast, and that kind of stuff doesn't help when it's already moving at the speed of light due to all the other drama and debuts coming in.

If you are going to comment the entire stream, keep it in one post and edit it (or just use discord if you are there). Also, if someone already said the exact thing, don't comment it again yourself, use the reactions and just like their post instead! We don't need 10 people saying the same thing reapeatedly for pages upon pages.

Anyway, got 50+ pages to go because I touched some grass the past couple days... (edit: actually caught up now, wrote that a few hours ago)


Oh and seems like this is just a trailer/announcement for Tempus and not any actual debuts, sadly. People would not be having streams if it was anything more than a couple minute trailer.


SteelPlatedHeart said:
It’s not like people don’t do the same thing with other companies on here.
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kukkia said:
Shitting on Nijisanji and VShojo is as much of a pastime lol. Hololive fans are not some oppressed minority over here.
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See below.


EliteDoragon said:
I don't see many people shitting on Nijisanji at all and when it happens it seems to be just to piss off Scuttle(In the past, because even that doesn't really happen anymore).

People don't shit on "Vshojo", people shit massively on the members of Vshojo. Theres actually not much talk about the entity itself and no one calls it a shitty workplace or anything like that either.
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This is what I meant and agree with. Rarely do niji/anycolor or vshojo the companies get shit on (except maybe the nux stuff), but cover/hololive are constantly shit on when anything happens with a talent. It's always due to them being a shit, horrible, black company and them getting blamed in rrats, even though there's never any evidence. Just the latest crap with Sana is a good example of this. Even though everything points to this being a decision by Sana and that they tried to work with her to keep her on, there are a ton of people online and comments here too making this out to be entirely cover's fault and due to them being a shit company/management screwing over the talent.


Scuttle said:
I don't disagree with you but that's 1.2m before tax over 3 years.

So, $400K/year AVG.. Removing YouTube (30%) and Cover (35%) cuts, that's $140K a year. Minus Japanese income tax for her tax bracket and that gets slashed down to about $80K/year in SCs. So, of that $1.2m she probably saw about $240K of it.

More than enough to buy food and keep a roof over her head but most of the fan money doesn't reach her. Also, Towa and Aki both already said that Cover don't pay for solo projects at all.

I agree with the root of the message, though: she isn't doing 18+ ASMR solely to pay the bills and make it so she can continue as Noel. She's doing it because she wants to and that's pretty much all there is to it. How she feels about the direction she's going with it is totally separate.
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Also remember SCs are far from the only thing they make money on. They get a regular monthly salary, memberships, merch, sponsorships, etc. I'm sure she and others there make plenty of bank.


EliteDoragon said:
Orange woman bad

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They pretty much set their own schedule and level of involvement don't they? If she's that overworked, maybe she needs to chill and cut back on stuff.
 
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