RU LGBT ‘propaganda’ faces complete ban in Russia

A new bill compares the promotion of “non-traditional sexual relations” with war propaganda and inciting national, racial or religious hatred.

The promotion of LGBT relations could be permanently banned in Russia under a bill introduced to the State Duma on Monday, which likens such messaging to war propaganda and incitement of hatred.

Currently, LGBT ‘propaganda’ in Russia is only banned when directed at children, but some politicians have been calling for harsher restrictions and punishments for the “denial of family values” and “propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations.”

In an explanatory note attached to the bill, the authors argue that LGBT ‘propaganda’ has become widespread in Russia and is being promoted through the media, public events, streaming services and through the depiction of such relationships in films.

“In Russia, at the legislative level, it is not allowed to promote suicide, drugs, extremism, criminal behavior, as they are considered negative and socially dangerous phenomena. At the same time, formally, until now, there is no ban on propaganda of the denial of family values and non-traditional sexual relations, including with the use of film distribution,” the note reads.

The authors of the bill – who do not include members of the ruling United Russia party – claim the denial of family as a social value, promotion of so-called “childfree” lifestyles, and the approval and recognition of non-traditional sexual relations, is dangerous not only for children and young people, but for society as a whole, since it “puts the issues of demography and future economic growth at risk.”

The bill seeks to supplement current legislation by introducing administrative and criminal responsibility for spreading LGBT messaging across any demographic in the Russian Federation and to deny distribution rights to films that promote such relations.

“Family, motherhood and childhood in their traditional understanding, taken from the ancestors, are the values that ensure the continuous change of generations,” urge the authors of the bill, adding that they are a “condition for the preservation and development of the multinational people of the Russian Federation, and therefore need special protection from the state.”

The lawmakers note that the prohibition of LGBT propaganda does not deprive Russian citizens of the opportunity and right to determine their sexual preference and orientation, nor does it allow for their discrimination in any way. However, they insist that these privileges “do not give them the right to seek public approval of such relations” or “disseminate ‘new’ values that carry hidden threats to society.”

Last month, a similar bill was also introduced to the State Duma, seeking to introduce fines of over $160,000 for promoting non-traditional sexual relations. However, it failed to pass its first reading.

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I feel like people who are anti-censorship will forget that this is censorship too…
Censoring journalism is dangerous whether on the right or the left.
If I had to choose between these two without an option for free speech, I'd rather go with this. Also pushing pedoshit on kids is objectionable and goes beyond free speech.
 
Does this apply to blow jobs? Because this sounds like the kind of thing that could quickly get out of hand with regard to blow jobs.
 
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Sorry to double post but adding to my above point, labelling things the government doesn’t like or believe in as ‘propaganda’ is a dangerous route because it’s really not about gay people, it’s about what that line of thinking implies. If people are not allowed to express what they want to via media, art, or movies, I would argue that is more of an issue than the existence of the LGBT, or any other group in the first place.
I couldn't agree more with you that this is a form of censorship, and like you i agree that any form of censorship is bad. But if you look at our current society and the amount of damage the left/lgbt/woke propaganda has done to our way of life and how it has damaged families, education, healthcare, history, science, religion one could argue it is basically a weapon of war. I am pro free speech in every subject, but those woke minded people are almost never interested in discourse but only persuasion and domination. In this situation i agree with Putin, It is unwise to fight a war with a divided nation, and the LGBT reich are master in dividing.
 
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Your dad did not rape you because he was gay, he did it because he was Russian.

I couldn't agree more with you that this is a form of censorship, and like you i agree that any form of censorship is bad. But if you look at our current society and the amount of damage the left/lgbt/woke propaganda has done to our way of life and how it has damaged families, education, healthcare, history, science, religion one could argue it is basically a weapon of war. I am pro free speech in every subject, but those woke minded people are almost never interested in discourse but only persuasion and domination. In this situation i agree with Putin, It is unwise to fight a war with a divided nation, and the LGBT reich are master in dividing.
You are not fucking pro-free speech cum breath.
 
“In an explanatory note attached to the bill, the authors argue that LGBT ‘propaganda’ has become widespread in Russia and is being promoted through the media, public events, streaming services and through the depiction of such relationships in films.”

Journalism is the media…
Alright, let’s say you’re hypothetically correct. I would argue that films are creatives works and unless causing physical violence or harm, are entitled to a right to expression. Limiting creative works is censorship.

Sorry to double post but adding to my above point, labelling things the government doesn’t like or believe in as ‘propaganda’ is a dangerous route because it’s really not about gay people, it’s about what that line of thinking implies. If people are not allowed to express what they want to via media, art, or movies, I would argue that is more of an issue than the existence of the LGBT, or any other group in the first place.Sorry to double post but adding to my above point, labelling things the government doesn’t like or believe in as ‘propaganda’ is a dangerous route because it’s really not about gay people, it’s about what that line of thinking implies. If people are not allowed to express what they want to via media, art, or movies, I would argue that is more of an issue than the existence of the LGBT, or any other group in the first place.
I agree, censorship, especially coming from the gov, is the worst because it gives them a stepping stone to further delete and control what can and can't be said in the media and in general. Here's the thing though, in the past few years, they allowed LGBT shenanigans to be promoted and spread without much control over it, nowadays they realised that some of that crap is actually really damaging because it started targeting kids and preteens with some very awful messages that is causing real life harm, so this current decision they are taking is perhaps a good step in regards to stopping the reach of a damaging message.

I'm not saying it's the best decision ever and that every other country should do the same, but perhaps it is a good measure against the current state of affairs in Russia, perhaps it can be used as a lesson and make the LGBT people realise that while their way of life is accepted, it shouldn't be imposed on others while threatening serious repercussions if people don't comply to it.

Instead of screaming bloody murder, maybe LGBT people should understand that if they want to promote their stuff, they need to compromise on making it in a safe and more tolerant way instead of shouting and doing a flip.
 
but those woke minded people are almost never interested in discourse
Exactly. This is why it’s so tricky. Censoring anyone politically never feels right, but at a certain point, especially in reference to woke culture and SJWs, some of what is being put out there is misinformation and almost brainwashing material.

Here's the thing though, in the past few years, they allowed LGBT shenanigans to be promoted and spread without much control over it, nowadays they realised that some of that crap is actually really damaging because it started targeting kids and preteens with some very awful messages that is causing real life harm
Exactly.
It’s super hard to find a balance where people aren’t being censored but brainwashing material and misinformation (usually orchestrated by woke culture or SJWs) isn’t running rampant.
 
Are they going to do anything about all the ritual sodomy in their armed forces? Maybe if being a Russian conscript wasn't like going to prison, they might be able to recruit more than middle aged men.
They'll save some sodomy especially for you, big boy.

Also that is not how conscription works.
 
If anything, I think Putin learned a lot from Pussy Riot back in 2014


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Only a matter of time if and when back in America that SCOTUS decides to overturn gay marriage.
 
“In an explanatory note attached to the bill, the authors argue that LGBT ‘propaganda’ has become widespread in Russia and is being promoted through the media, public events, streaming services and through the depiction of such relationships in films.”

Journalism is the media…
Alright, let’s say you’re hypothetically correct. I would argue that films are creatives works and unless causing physical violence or harm, are entitled to a right to expression. Limiting creative works is censorship.

Sorry to double post but adding to my above point, labelling things the government doesn’t like or believe in as ‘propaganda’ is a dangerous route because it’s really not about gay people, it’s about what that line of thinking implies. If people are not allowed to express what they want to via media, art, or movies, I would argue that is more of an issue than the existence of the LGBT, or any other group in the first place.Sorry to double post but adding to my above point, labelling things the government doesn’t like or believe in as ‘propaganda’ is a dangerous route because it’s really not about gay people, it’s about what that line of thinking implies. If people are not allowed to express what they want to via media, art, or movies, I would argue that is more of an issue than the existence of the LGBT, or any other group in the first place.
Gay is bad
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