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- Aug 2, 2020
If it was a girl, it would be a sexual disaster looking for any kind of validation after being used as narc fuel all her life by her ogress of a mother. Or worse, she'd be one of those poor girls that insane mothers let terrible men do terrible things to in exchange for their delightful company.It would be a little caveman troll playing with My Little Ponies
If it was a boy it would be shooting up a school right now.
It's a testament to how batshit Chantal is that Mae can be held as an example of a reasonable woman here. She did a lot of very weird things, but when the alleged attack happened, she got away from Nader and her basic story remained the same.When considering people's actions in court, the question is "What would a reasonable person think/say/do in this situation?" This is asked when trying to find the truth about a person's behavior.
It isn't feasible to go to the farthest reaches of the imagination and imagine every possible scenario.
A reasonable woman (I know she's a crazy sack of lying blubber, but for legal purposes), having been raped and abused by a man whom she has only known for a month, a man upon whom she is NOT financially dependent, a man who does not live with her and has no legal ties to her whatsoever, would run as fast and as far as she could and NEVER LOOK BACK. This at the very least, if she didn't just call the cops.
Instead, she has continued to stalk him, beg him, verbally abuse him, threaten him, ridicule him and cry about how much she loves him. She's a fucking CRAZY LIAR and deserves to be silenced.
I don't watch DeeDee and Nader. For that matter, neither do I have the stomach to watch the crazy hosebeast any more. But the fact that there is a gaggle of blithering idiots telling her she's right and egging her on is criminal in itself. Morally if not legally.
The Farms can be a depressing place sometimes. But dammit, THIS BITCH NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT AT EVERY TURN. SHE IS VILE AND POISONOUS,
I guess I sort of already said this. But I did all this typing...
Chantal has made it very clear that she only considers how Nader treated her to be abuse when she is mad that he's not giving her attention. When he's nice to her, it wasn't abusive.
I really hate playing the "real victim" card but it's so hard not to... yes, real DV victims often go back to their abusers, yes they make excuses for them, and yes they take many attempts to leave. But that's not because they're changing their mind about the abuse. It's in spite of the abuse.
"He hit me, but I made him angry. He hit me, but I love him. He hit me, but he said sorry and he won't do it again. He hit me, but I don't know where else to go."
It's messy and complicated. Even when DV victims flat out forgive their abusers and want to go back to them, it's often still with the knowledge that the abuse happened. There's just something else going on that, for some reason, means she's willing to overlook that.
With Chantal, whether or not an attack actually occurred depends 100% on how she feels about him at the time she recounts the story. It's a combination of a stunning (and unsurprising) lack of self-respect, a gargantuan amount of self-loathing, a poor attempt at manipulation, and sheer stupidity.
Nader is still a blight on this earth, though. I wish he'd slip through a sewer grate.
ETA: calling Chantal an abuser... I can see that in general-- at the very best she's a toxic friend and partner. But I don't think she was ever abusive to Nader. He used her WAY more successfully than she used him. Stalker? Yes. Abuser? Not to Nader, IMO. Though it is sort of satisfying how he probably thought she'd be an easy mark and now he might never be rid of her.
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