Fallout series

[BiggerChungus]

And yet it's the faction most favored by Obsidian. To the point where their NCR Veteran Rangers are as powerful as Brotherhood Paladins, despite the lack of energy weapons and power armor.

Yeah, that's why the devs had to work on giving Mr. House more flaws because they realized (and admitted) he seemed like the best faction. It's also why the NCR is portrayed consistently as being corrupt and inefficient.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Yeah, that's why the devs had to work on giving Mr. House more flaws because they realized (and admitted) he seemed like the best faction. It's also why the NCR is portrayed consistently as being corrupt and inefficient.

Then why is it a good karma thing to side with them against the Legion? Why do you also get good karma for killing NCR foes like the Powder Gangers and Legion Centurions? Why is it that when House dies, fucking nobody misses him and everyone, from the people of Vegas, to the NCR, and even the Legion, all unite in cheering for his death? Why does the NCR side have the most missions/content in the base game? And don't tell me they ran out of time; whenever Obsidian gets all the time in the world to make a game, they fart out a mediocre piece of shit like Outer Worlds or Alpha Protocol.

Face it, at the end of the day, they want you to side with the NCR or go Yes Man. The fucking karma system even shits on you for killing the Brotherhood of Steel, which is what Caesar and House want you to do, whereas with the NCR, yes, they originally want the Brotherhood dead, but they let you sidestep that and even recruit the Brotherhood for the NCR, and the most idealistic ending has the Brotherhood, the Enclave, and the NCR all dogpiling the Legion.

Fallout 4's Brotherhood is fine, but their genocidal stance feels very tacked on. They needed some kind of negative reason to not be the go-to hero faction so that the conflict between them and The Institute could feel more grey, but they took it too far for almost all of the factions.

Fallout 4's Brotherhood acting like dicks is again, a result of people complaining that they were too nice in 3. You know, despite the fact that they also ignore you UNTIL the main quest mission forces them to open up? Shit, I did more business with the Outcasts than the Lyons' Brotherhood because aside from me using their outpost from the Anchorage DLC as a repair station, at least turning over scraps of random tech to them led to me being their friend, while the Lyons Brotherhood tells you to fuck off until the Enclave seizes Project Purity.

New Vegas' factions work because, despite being very clearly divided into 'good/bad' there's at least far reaching consequences for one or the other that could allow you to have some actual debate. Fallout 4 has you siding with genocidal military, mad scientists with no clear motivation, a terrorist cell, or (we were too lazy to make quests for this faction) Minutemen.

To be fair, all three sides in New Vegas also have their own dickishness to them. The NCR are imperialist thieves, the Legion enslave and crucify people for kicks, and House is so hated by everyone that damn near nobody sheds a tear for him. Ulysses, Chris Avellone's mouthpiece in the game, even praises you for killing House, saying that he's just an old-world ghost and that the old world deserves to die with him.

B-b-but uuuh two wrongs don't make a right! *Murders your wife* We wus a warrior culture and shit! *Beats new initiate to death then rapes a child* We wus kangs! We dindu nuffin!

They can keep saying that while I machine-gun them to death.

The proper way to deal with the Khans:

I like that guy working for Caesar is like "Yeah they'll be useful for the battle but we'll be better off just killing and enslaving most of them in the long run."

There was a part where Caesar would actually do the same for the Brotherhood, but they cut it out. The voice lines are recorded and everything. But I suppose it makes sense that someone who hates the Brotherhood that much while having an overwhelming military advantage wouldn't really want to spare the Brotherhood. It's not like the NCR where they need every man they can find.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

>mad
>about video games
lol

 

[BiggerChungus]

Then why is it a good karma thing to side with them against the Legion? Why do you also get good karma for killing NCR foes like the Powder Gangers and Legion Centurions? Why is it that when House dies, fucking nobody misses him and everyone, from the people of Vegas, to the NCR, and even the Legion, all unite in cheering for his death? Why does the NCR side have the most missions/content in the base game?

"Then why is it a good karma thing to side with them against the Legion?"
It isn't. You only get good karma for specific actions that aren't really based on the faction, IE at Forlorn Hope you get good karma if you turn down a reward for helping wounded troops. If you help them and take a reward, you don't get karma. You also don't lose karma if you wipe out the entire camp for Severus. Generosity/selflessness gets you karma, not just helping the NCR.

"Why do you also get good karma for killing NCR foes like the Powder Gangers and Legion Centurions?"
Powder Gangers are murdering ex-cons that rob people. Them being the NCR's enemies isn't why they're evil. The Hoover Dam Centurions having evil karma is, IIRC, a dev oversight or a method of endgame high karma gain. No other Legion enemies in the game except Vulpes have evil karma, including other Centurions.

"Why is it that when House dies, fucking nobody misses him and everyone, from the people of Vegas"
Because everyone wanted him gone to take his power and "steal" Vegas from him. No one misses Kimball or Caesar either, outside of the Legion (for Caesar). And to be fair, people not missing House isn't necessarily a mark against him or the devs saying he sucks or something. The NCR and Caesar want him gone solely because he's an obstacle for their total dominance of the region, as do parts of the Vegas families.

"Why does the NCR side have the most missions/content in the base game?"
They have the largest presence in the Mojave and are the most normie-relatable 'good guy' faction, even if they explicitly aren't a 'good guy' faction. No faction in NV is, all of them have good and bad aspects.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

It isn't. You only get good karma for specific actions that aren't really based on the faction, IE at Forlorn Hope you get good karma if you turn down a reward for helping wounded troops. If you help them and take a reward, you don't get karma. You also don't lose karma if you wipe out the entire camp for Severus. Generosity/selflessness gets you karma, not just helping the NCR.

Killing Legion Centurions on Hoover Dam gives you good karma. You literally get good karma for fighting against the Legion in the final battle. You do not get good karma for fighting the NCR.

Powder Gangers are murdering ex-cons that rob people. Them being the NCR's enemies isn't why they're evil. The Hoover Dam Centurions having evil karma is, IIRC, a dev oversight or a method of endgame high karma gain. No other Legion enemies in the game except Vulpes have evil karma, including other Centurions.

Nope. The Hoover Dam Centurions having evil karma is due to the fact that they fight for a regime that enslaves and tortures people. Stopping them from taking control of the Mojave is considered a good karma thing, especially from the POV of most people in the Mojave.

Because everyone wanted him gone to take his power and "steal" Vegas from him. No one misses Kimball or Caesar either, outside of the Legion (for Caesar). And to be fair, people not missing House isn't necessarily a mark against him or the devs saying he sucks or something. The NCR and Caesar want him gone solely because he's an obstacle for their total dominance of the region, as do parts of the Vegas families.

Even the residents of New Vegas don't mourn House's passing. The NCR and the Legion, it's understandable, House dying gives them an opportunity. But even the locals who live under his protection cheer on his death. Even the peons who have nothing to gain from House's death cheer it on because they think he's an old faggot who should die off. And again, Avellone's author avatar cheers on your execution of House, saying that you did everyone a favor, and that House is a part of the old world that should die off. As a House fan myself, I'm quite surprised at how near-universal everyone's distaste for him was.

They have the largest presence in the Mojave and are the most normie-relatable 'good guy' faction, even if they explicitly aren't a 'good guy' faction. No faction in NV is, all of them have good and bad aspects.

They're relatable to the normies as the good guy faction because they ARE the good guy faction. Take them away, and the Legion enslaves and crucifies everyone.

This whole idea about there not being a good or evil faction in New Vegas is utter nonsense. Playing as the Legion has you helping a slaver tribe that most folks are scared of. Playing for House is fighting for order's sake, since he can maintain order better than the NCR, but he's not a good karma character. But the NCR's bad aspects are small potatoes compared to their good aspects. They're disorganized dipshits who tax people, yes, but prior to House's Securitron army going online, they're the only thing keeping the Mojave from becoming a giant slave encampment decorated with rotting corpses on crosses.

The difference between the NCR and the Legion is the same difference between the Republic and the Sith in KOTOR; the good guys are disorganized idiots but still fight for freedom, the bad guys are organized and strong, but still cartoonishly evil. The Legion enslaves all women, crucifies people, and use brainwashing to create an organized army. The Sith bombard planets just for inconveniencing them. The only difference is that the Legion are more cartoonishly evil, because at least the Sith still give people with ovaries a chance to excel; the Legion just automatically enslave all women they come across, which is so cartoonishly evil it's hilarious.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Every post you make, the more I think you never played New Vegas and got your knowledge of it, and basic Fallout lore, from the Wiki and Reddit. You've got some objectively wrong takes that you try to assert as fact, and the only three ways you could push those takes as fact are ignorance, disingenuity, or stupidity.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Killing Legion Centurions on Hoover Dam gives you good karma. You literally get good karma for fighting against the Legion in the final battle. You do not get good karma for fighting the NCR.


Nope. The Hoover Dam Centurions having evil karma is due to the fact that they fight for a regime that enslaves and tortures people. Stopping them from taking control of the Mojave is considered a good karma thing, especially from the POV of most people in the Mojave.


Even the residents of New Vegas don't mourn House's passing. The NCR and the Legion, it's understandable, House dying gives them an opportunity. But even the locals who live under his protection cheer on his death. Even the peons who have nothing to gain from House's death cheer it on because they think he's an old faggot who should die off. And again, Avellone's author avatar cheers on your execution of House, saying that you did everyone a favor, and that House is a part of the old world that should die off. As a House fan myself, I'm quite surprised at how near-universal everyone's distaste for him was.


They're relatable to the normies as the good guy faction because they ARE the good guy faction. Take them away, and the Legion enslaves and crucifies everyone.

This whole nonsense about there not being a good or evil faction in New Vegas is utter nonsense. Playing as the Legion has you helping a slaver tribe that most folks are scared of. Playing for House is fighting for order's sake, since he can maintain order better than the NCR, but he's not a good karma character. But the NCR's bad aspects are small potatoes compared to their good aspects. They're disorganized dipshits who tax people, yes, but prior to House's Securitron army going online, they're the only thing keeping the Mojave from becoming a giant slave encampment decorated with rotting corpses on crosses.

Dude, this is literally NPC: The Post, especially the last paragraph. The NCR has become corrupt and over-reaching, making the same mistakes their pre-war predecessors did. The Legion is brutal but offer stability and order, as long as Caesar is around; it appeals to many. House wants his little fiefdom to continue as is, and the purpose of the Securitons is to dissuade the NCR or Legion from taking over New Vegas. The Courier has to navigate their way around these factions and try to form alliances with the others, like the Boomers and the Great Khans. I think @BiggerChungus is correct, you can't have payed this game if you don't grasp these basic points.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Every post you make, the more I think you never played New Vegas and got your knowledge of it, and basic Fallout lore, from the Wiki and Reddit. You've got some objectively wrong takes that you try to assert as fact, and the only three ways you could push those takes as fact are ignorance, disingenuity, or stupidity.

Again, more crying because I dared to say things about New Vegas that goes against your thoughts. As if someone who never played FNV would notice that you get good karma for killing Centurions on Hoover Dam.

One side stands for democracy, and despite the fact that people bitch about them, they're still keeping out the other side, which tortures, rapes, and crucifies people as a standard MO. How the fuck is that a situation where "there are no good or bad guys"?

The Legion is so cartoonishly evil they make the fucking Sith from Star Wars look like the good guys by comparison.

You got any proof for your claims? Or are you gonna make up shit all day?

Dude, this is literally NPC: The Post, especially the last paragraph. The NCR has become corrupt and over-reaching, making the same mistakes their pre-war predecessors did. The Legion is brutal but offer stability and order, as long as Caesar is around; it appeals to many. House wants his little fiefdom to continue as is, and the purpose of the Securitons is to dissuade the NCR or Legion from taking over New Vegas. The Courier has to navigate their way around these factions and try to form alliances with the others, like the Boomers and the Great Khans. I think @BiggerChungus is correct, you can't have payed this game if you don't grasp these basic points.

In any other game, the NCR could full-on be the villain, especially due to their corruption and their outright imperialism. But you have to put them in the context of the game's world; the Legion uses rape, torture, and slavery as a standard MO, to the point where you gain good karma for killing Legion soldiers in the final battle. And the Legion automatically enslaves half the populace just for the crime of not having a dick. The Legion are so fucking cartoonish that they make villains from other series seem tame. So compared to the Legion, the NCR are the good guys, since despite their many, many flaws, they still seek to make life better for the average commoner. The moment you help them out, they even give you a radio so that they can help you out. You can't say the same thing about the Legion, because it exists only for the sake of one man: Caesar. Everyone else is a soldier or a slave, which is so fucking cartoonish it's hilarious.

And the Legion is commented by many observers to be following Caesar, not Caesar's laws; they even note that it will die the moment Caesar dies, and unless the Courier is there to be his heir, they're boned. All that order and discipline and peace they brought in through rape, slavery, and crucifixion goes down the drain when Caesar dies. Lanius doesn't have the same wisdom as Caesar does, and his generals have even less. So it's not even a worthy sacrifice to allow all that violence and rapacity when at most, you'll just have a generation or two of peace, and it will all fall apart when Caesar eventually dies. Meanwhile, whether the NCR wins or loses, it will still continue to function, because the bureaucracy, while corrupt, is still stable. They will eventually elect another president after Kimball whether or not they take New Vegas, and they will keep functioning until an outside power invades and destroys them, whereas the Legion will destroy itself in due time once Caesar dies, which will happen sooner if you don't cure his brain tumor.

Again, you make your baseless claims against me because I hurt your feelings. Damn, if this isn't the most pathetic display of fandom ever.

 

[ShitlordroltihS]

R.I.P. Fallout

 

[BiggerChungus]

Again, more crying because I dared to say things about New Vegas that goes against your thoughts. As if someone who never played FNV would notice that you get good karma for killing Centurions on Hoover Dam.

I'm saying you don't know what you're talking about, demonstrably. The fact you think Caesar "enslaves or crucifies everyone in the Mojave" is proof enough, among many other things.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Yeah, not even mentioning the comments of Cass saying about the legion are better guards with caravans than the NCR.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I'm saying you don't know what you're talking about, demonstrably. The fact you think Caesar "enslaves or crucifies everyone in the Mojave" is proof enough, among many other things.

That is exactly what he does. He lords over the Mojave and forces everyone to become slaves. You even see in the restored content mod where you can continue playing after the Battle of Hoover Dam, New Vegas is full of people who are enslaved or crucified. Instead of a peaceful city where people just keep their heads down so as to not offend Caesar, you outright see the city be converted into a slave camp decorated with rotting corpses on crosses.

Yeah, not even mentioning the comments of Cass saying about the legion are better guards with caravans than the NCR.

Oh, is this the same Cass who also complains about the cartoonishly evil way the Legion treats their women?

Bad guys as a rule in many fictional stories defend their shit well. That still doesn't stop them from being the bad guys. The Empire defended Tatooine better than the Republic defended Naboo in Star Wars; Naboo at most had a small starfighter fleet and a small militia despite owning a senate seat, Tatooine was some dipshit world on the ass end of space and still had a sizeable imperial garrison and two Star Destroyers. The Empire clearly protects its turf better than the Old Republic. Does that make the Empire good? No. They're still the same assholes who blew up Alderaan.

 

[Su-27 Flanker-B]

I just want a strategy game in fallout universe. Somewhat like Kenshi.

 

[BiggerChungus]

That is exactly what he does. He lords over the Mojave and forces everyone to become slaves. You even see in the restored content where you can continue playing after the Battle of Hoover Dam, New Vegas is full of people who are enslaved or crucified.

The first part is literally not what happens or what's said, and the second part, while also not true, is part of a mod. Specifically, Caesar "enslaves a portion of the Mojave's population, and peacefully lords over the rest." I'm not even a Legion guy, you're just blatantly wrong about pretty much every take you have on the game.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The first part is literally not what happens or what's said, and the second part, while also not true, is part of a mod. Specifically, Caesar "enslaves a portion of the Mojave's population, and peacefully lords over the rest." I'm not even a Legion guy, you're just blatantly wrong about pretty much ever take you have on the game.

The mod is based on cut content that would have been in the game. And again, Caesar's Legion explicitly enslaves ALL THE WOMEN. Just so they can rape them to make more soldiers. We even see this with the Khans; only the men get accepted as soldiers, the women are sold off to ranking officers, and the elders are killed.

How the fuck is that supposed to be anything other than being cartoonishly evil?

I just want a strategy game in fallout universe. Somewhat like Kenshi.

Something like Starcraft with Fallout characters would be great.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

That is exactly what he does. He lords over the Mojave and forces everyone to become slaves. You even see in the restored content mod where you can continue playing after the Battle of Hoover Dam, New Vegas is full of people who are enslaved or crucified. Instead of a peaceful city where people just keep their heads down so as to not offend Caesar, you outright see the city be converted into a slave camp decorated with rotting corpses on crosses.

Holy fucking shit, that's not restored content, you retarded fuck. The mod is inspired by the ending slides of the original game. Are you even read the description of FPGE?
The mod itself is just the inmediate post-ending, and doesn't reflect the ending slides entirely. I remember kazopert saying that in one of the thousand comments in the modpage.
Even one of the devs talked about don't having post-game content in fucking 2010/2011, idealized by motherfucking Chris Avellone.
What's next? You're gonna literally take all the Second Great War mod from Skyrim to talking about how the Thalmor dominated Skyrim and shit?
Please, no. Fuck off and go to bed.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

In any other game, the NCR could full-on be the villain, especially due to their corruption and their outright imperialism. But you have to put them in the context of the game's world; the Legion uses rape, torture, and slavery as a standard MO, to the point where you gain good karma for killing Legion soldiers in the final battle. And the Legion automatically enslaves half the populace just for the crime of not having a dick. The Legion are so fucking cartoonish that they make villains from other factions seem tame. So compared to the Legion, the NCR are the good guys, despite their many, many flaws.

If you had actually played the game you would know that no one in the Mojave wants the NCR there. They aren't "the good guys", they're the NCR who represent their particular brand of governance and law. The Legion is brutal, no one disputes it but the merchants that do business with them (like Cass) say its safe and crime isn't tolerated. It's assume there no enslavement, rape or torture in Legion territories. It's may not be your cup of tea but to people in wastes fighting off raiders, thugs and ghouls it's probably very appealing. Sort of how IRL people may go along with the status quo in their particular area because they like law and order, even if its heavy handed,

The moment you help them out, they even give you a radio so that they can help you out.

The Legion helps you out too retard, there's a Legion safehouse near Wolfhorn.

And the Legion is commented by many observers to be following Caesar, not Caesar's laws; they even note that it will die the moment Caesar dies, and unless the Courier is there to be his heir, they're boned. All that order and discipline and peace they brought in through rape, slavery, and crucifixion goes down the drain when Caesar dies. Lanius doesn't have the same wisdom as Caesar does, and his generals have even less. So it's not even a worthy sacrifice to allow all that violence and rapacity when at most, you'll just have a generation or two of peace, and it will all fall apart when Caesar eventually dies.

If you side with the Legion and take it over everything you wrote will never happen.

Again, you make your baseless claims against me because I hurt your feelings. Damn, if this isn't the most pathetic display of fandom ever.

Listen you unbearable faggot, we're discussing a game most of us have played several times in different ways. My feelings aren't hurt because you post spergouts about FO:NV and get mad when people point out how wrong you are, to the point we doubt you even played this game. Touch grass.

 

[BiggerChungus]

The mod is based on cut content that would have been in the game. And again, Caesar's Legion explicitly enslaves ALL THE WOMEN. Just so they can rape them to make more soldiers. We even see this with the Khans; only the men get accepted as soldiers, the women are sold off to ranking officers, and the elders are killed.

A mod based on what the dev thinks the cut content would've been, which doesn't have everyone enslaved anyway. The Legion also doesn't "enslave all the women" in either the mod or the base game. It's not literally an army of slaves and slavemasters. It's got cities, citizens, and government/social structures with women as healers, educators, etc. If anything, according to J. Sawyer they'd planned to have a quest where you traveled to Arizona and visited a Legion city, seeing a much more civilized and less warlike side of them, but that was obviously cut. Unlike the cut postgame ending though, we know for a fact that's how that cut content would've been. The situation with the Khans, again based on a mod, is still reasoned as the Khans being raiders, chempushers, and chemfiends, not a group of allies or citizens. The Legion has regular noncombatant citizens, and traders are treated even better than in NCR territory so long as they don't try to sell drugs to Legionaries. Shit, they don't even care if you trade with the NCR too, they still protect you and rarely even tax you.

Also, constantly referencing Star Wars in a completely unrelated game discussion gives off that sort of "we're gryffindor and drumpf is the real voldemort and the altright is slytherin guys, leviosa let's fight evil!" vibe.

The Legion helps you out too retard, there's a Legion safehouse near Wolfhorn.

Don't forget Caesar also starts giving you shitloads of gifts every week too just by becoming Liked, specifically items that normally aren't used by legionaries that can otherwise help you in your work. The NCR never starts paying you or giving you stuff besides their radio.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Holy fucking shit, that's not restored content, you retarded fuck. The mod is inspired by the ending slides of the original game. Are you even read the description of FPGE?
What's next? You're gonna literally take all the Second Great War mod from Skyrim to talking about how the Thalmor dominated Skyrim and shit?
Please, no. Fuck off and go to bed.

I'm pretty sure the women of the Mojave Wasteland are just sitting pretty after Caesar conquered the place, aren't they? They obviously aren't just being used as rape-baby factories so that the Legion can have more troops? Tell me, when in the game do you see a free Legion woman aside from a Legion-aligned Courier?

If you had actually played the game you would know that no one in the Mojave wants the NCR there. They aren't "the good guys", they're the NCR who represent their particular brand of governance and law. The Legion is brutal, no one disputes it but the merchants that do business with them (like Cass) say its safe and crime isn't tolerated.

No one wants the Legion in the Mojave either. If anything, people favor the Yes Man ending, but the NCR still brings stability and peace when they win, leaving most people alone, while the Legion enslaves the populace once they come into power.

It's assume there no enslavement, rape or torture in Legion territories. It's may not be your cup of tea but to people in wastes fighting off raiders, thugs and ghouls it's probably very appealing. Sort of how IRL people may go along with the status quo in their particular area because they like law and order, even if its heavy handed,

XD No rape, enslavement, or torture in Legion territories? Dude, are you fucking high? They rape their female slaves repeatedly to produce more babies for the state. They use torture and enslavement to keep the populace down. And it's even described in-lore that the moment Caesar dies, the whole thing will fall apart, which goes to show that people don't really approve of the Legion. Maybe outside of the game, you get some lore blurbs about peaceful communities and women becoming priestesses, but if you limit yourself to what the game offers, and nothing but that, then not only is the Legion a terrible thing, but it's also living on borrowed time, all the safety, security, justice, and peace it provides is but a fleeting dream, one that will give way to a greater nightmare when Caesar kicks the bucket and the Legion self-destructs.

The Legion helps you out too retard, there's a Legion safehouse near Wolfhorn.

That's only if you do a lot of things for them. Meanwhile, you don't need to do much for the NCR for them to hand you a radio that sends reinforcements to your location.

If you side with the Legion and take it over everything you wrote will never happen.

Because the Courier saves Caesar and becomes his heir, ensuing the future of the Legion. Which is the same for the NCR; if the Courier joins them, they win Vegas, stabilize the Mojave, and ensure peace for the populace. Minus the slavery and rape.

Listen you unbearable faggot, we're discussing a game most of us have played several times in different ways. My feelings aren't hurt because you post spergouts about FO:NV and get mad when people point out how wrong you are, to the point we doubt you even played this game. Touch grass.

Again, you people just make such ridiculous claims because your feelings are hurt. How pathetic.

A mod based on what the dev thinks the cut content would've been, which doesn't have everyone enslaved anyway. The Legion also doesn't "enslave all the women" in either the mod or the base game. It's not literally an army of slaves and slavemasters. It's got cities, citizens, and government/social structures with women as healers, educators, etc. If anything, according to J. Sawyer they'd planned to have a quest where you traveled to Arizona and visited a Legion city, seeing a much more civilized and less warlike side of them, but that was obviously cut. Unlike the cut postgame ending though, we know for a fact that's how that cut content would've been. The situation with the Khans, again based on a mod, is still reasoned as the Khans being raiders, chempushers, and chemfiends, not a group of allies or citizens. The Legion has regular noncombatant citizens, and traders are treated even better than in NCR territory so long as they don't try to sell drugs to Legionaries. Shit, they don't even care if you trade with the NCR too, they still protect you and rarely even tax you.

Where is that displayed in the game? Nowhere. That's all just lore that they added after the game was released. Nowhere do you see free women or even citizens in Legion encampments, outside of that one trader who's a man. The game's characters all describe the Legion as slavers who are horribly sexist towards women, who use rape to produce more soldiers for the cause, and their whole order will collapse the moment Caesar dies, so they don't put much stock in the Legion's government; it's just described in-game as one giant raider tribe that will collapse the moment its chieftain dies. Nowhere do they speak of free women and peaceful communities in Legion territories. You'd think that would have come up in a discussion in-game, but the most that characters like Raul say is that the Legion exterminated a lot of the gangs in their turf, which still doesn't explain how the people there were treated afterwards, outside of just them being enslaved.

I mean, shit, I even addressed it on this very thread that there should have been free citizens in Caesar's camp to show that the Legion aren't just rapist slavers, but a legitimate state. There should have been free citizens, male and female, coming to offer tribute to Caesar, as well as purchasing slaves recently caught by the Legion. As well as female gladiators, because that was actually a thing in Ancient Rome.

Also, constantly referencing Star Wars in a completely unrelated game discussion gives off that sort of "we're gryffindor and drumpf is the real voldemort and the altright is slytherin guys, leviosa let's fight evil!" vibe.

Star Wars is a point of reference because the factions are basically playing off the same tropes. You've got a democratic republic that's bloated and drowning in red tape going up against an efficient empire that's also cartoonishly evil. Except the Legion is so pointlessly evil that it makes the Empire look good.