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[Socrates]

it's all just so tiresome

 

[9Style]

Tucker covers the immigration situation and the attempts of the Democrats to change the voting demographics.

 

[Aunt Marge]

Not to mention, from what a few friends that live outside of America tell me, the Jan 6 Commission looks more like a kangaroo court and a Star Chamber to them.

Can very much confirm.

 

[SBG]

It wouldn't be surprising if a powerful contingent of the GOP was in favor of DeSantis over Trump. DeSantis also enjoys the ability to be promoted by Tucker who has the most popular show on Fox News.

Trump is on Tucker's bad side and doesn't even have the rallies he does shown on Fox the way they used to, so he lacks some visibility right now which would hurt him in polls. If Trump was presented to potential voters he'd probably do much better. DeSantis would likely fall apart in anything like a debate or real matchup as he mostly runs with pretty vacuous political positions like being against lockdowns (that aren't coming back) and it's difficult to imagine how that'd translate into concrete presidential policies that people would like.

 

[LUNEKO]

Trump is on Tucker's bad side and doesn't even have the rallies he does shown on Fox the way they used to, so he lacks some visibility right now which would hurt him in polls. If Trump was presented to potential voters he'd probably do much better. DeSantis would likely fall apart in anything like a debate or real matchup as he mostly runs with pretty vacuous political positions like being against lockdowns (that aren't coming back) and it's difficult to imagine how that'd translate into concrete presidential policies that people would like.

>Trump is on Tucker's bad side
Wait what, since when? what happened?

 

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>Trump is on Tucker's bad side
Wait what, since when? what happened?

Since the DNC decided they had better odds beating DeSantis / taking Florida while DeSantis takes the Presidency than righting Trump again while DeSantis keeps cleaning up Florida.

 

[XYZpdq]

DeSantis vs Trump is basically the MSM equivalent of
---DX vs nWo?!!? HBK Says **** YOU to Vince!?!?!!!!--- ***CLICK HERE***
old school wrassle onlines dirtsheets

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Did you guys catch Blumph pushing in Larry Hogan's shit tonight during the Maryland Gov. primary?

No. If you have a link to a video post it. But I know Cox won and the Hogan backed candidate lost. I really don't care for Hogan and didn't vote for him 2018. Hogan is a fat faggot cuck with a chink wife. He also has a fat chink daughter. I don't know anything about Cox but I won't be voting. I will wait and see what he does first before I decide to support him with a vote. We could always get stuck with the Q-ball nigger or Obammy beaner.

It wouldn't be surprising if a powerful contingent of the GOP was in favor of DeSantis over Trump. DeSantis also enjoys the ability to be promoted by Tucker who has the most popular show on Fox News.

Trump is on Tucker's bad side and doesn't even have the rallies he does shown on Fox the way they used to, so he lacks some visibility right now which would hurt him in polls. If Trump was presented to potential voters he'd probably do much better. DeSantis would likely fall apart in anything like a debate or real matchup as he mostly runs with pretty vacuous political positions like being against lockdowns (that aren't coming back) and it's difficult to imagine how that'd translate into concrete presidential policies that people would like.

There is no powerful contingent in the GOP pushing Desantis. The whole Desantis thing is 100% astroturf. Desantis would be a bad pick and would most likely not win in the general election. He doesn't have what it takes to bring the Trump voter base out to vote for him. By that I mean the 25-30% of the democrats that voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020. Desantis would lose the 2024 general election for sure. Trump is the better choice because he is a household name politically. Everyone knows what Trump will do as president. Desantis is a complete unknown. Taking Desantis out of Florida to run in 2024 would just rob Florida of governor that seems to be doing pretty well except for a few things like red flag laws.

The mainstream media and the political establishment are the ones pushing the Desantis meme. It's just an attempt to try and divide the Trump GOP voter base.

Trump doesn't need the mainstream media like Fox News and Tucker. Tucker used to have over 3 million people watching him on Fox. But after 2020 and his refusal to cover the coup through election fraud his ratings fell by a little over 2 million viewers. No one really gives a shit about Tucker anymore and I haven't really watched him since 2018. Matter of fact I stopped watching him later that year because Tucker and other people turned into blackpill faggots and started shitting on Trump all the time. I got sick of their blackpilled faggotry and just tuned them out. Tucker got worse in 2019 and 2020. Trump hasn't even announced his 2024 run officially yet. The midterms are still a little over 3 months away. Once Trump makes his 2024 announcement and starts campaigning for the GOP nomination and running for the general, he will get coverage by the mainstream media. They haven't stopped talking about him since he left DC really.

Yes, Tucker will cover Trump then. He will have to, or he will look like a retard.

 

[GlobohomoSapiens]

We're at the point now where if you still plan on voting Democrat then you're either stupid or you're one of the criminals that wants to hurt children.

A Democrat states that his goal as an educator is to turn children into militants
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It's absolutely shocking how in a mere 10 years the Democrats went from being a youth focused organization that wanted to help young negros and turned into a terrorist group bristling with pedophiles and murderers.

But.. they were always a terrorist group rife with pedophiles and murderers. The Weather Underground and various other leftists are kind of the bedrock of the modern nigger and faggot-worshipping Democrats.

[Insert Days of Rage references, etc.]

 

[Paul Pelosi's Boyfriend]

But.. they were always a terrorist group rife with pedophiles and murderers. The Weather Underground and various other leftists are kind of the bedrock of the modern nigger and faggot-worshipping Democrats.

[Insert Days of Rage references, etc.]

I know that now. But back then I was more naive and I really bought into the hype that the government was just a money train and that the rich would pay for it all.

It turns out I was absolutely correct but I failed to understand that the train was about to be derailed by some scheming fucks for basically no reason at all.

 

[Desu Mountain]

>Trump is on Tucker's bad side
Wait what, since when? what happened?

He's not. Every time he's mentioned Trump these past several months is to say things like "people remember that things used to be better under Donald Trump" or "people were able to afford gas under Donald Trump" and so on and so forth. Just constant reminders that Trump had the country running smoothly and richly.

 

[SBG]

>Trump is on Tucker's bad side
Wait what, since when? what happened?

Happened ages ago. Basically Trump does his whole thing fighting to get stuff like wall construction done and actions on illegals and so on, but much of the time Tucker was gossiping with leftwing journos and agreeing most of the left wing propaganda about how Trump was incompetent about one thing or another. It all came to a head towards the start of the Rona mania when Tucker was pissed Trump wasn't taking a harsher stance about fighting coronavirus than he already was.

Tucker was even one of the popular sources for journos wanting to shit talk Trump. Trump gets chatty with all variety of people, including Tucker for the longest time, and Tucker used the opportunity to feed into the palace intrigue that had been going on and talking about how awful Trump was.
Edit:

Tucker Carlson Calls Journalists ‘Animals.’ He’s Also Their Best Sour…

archived 21 Jun 2021 15:49:18 UTC

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And if you are a Tucker Carlson viewer, you may also be asking: How can the guy who tells you every night that the media is lying be texting with the enemy?
The answer is one of Washington’s open secrets. Mr. Carlson, a proud traitor to the elite political class, spends his time when he’s not denouncing the liberal media trading gossip with them. He’s the go-to guy for sometimes-unflattering stories about Donald J. Trump and for coverage of the internal politics of Fox News (not to mention stories about Mr. Carlson himself). I won’t talk here about any off-the-record conversations I may have had with him. But 16 other journalists (none from The Times; it would put my colleagues in a weird position if I asked them) told me on background that he has been, as three of them put it, “a great source.”
“In Trump’s Washington, Tucker Carlson is a primary supersecret source,” the media writer and Trump chronicler Michael Wolff writes in his forthcoming collection of essays, “Too Famous.” Mr. Wolff, who thanked Mr. Carlson in the acknowledgments of his 2018 book, “Fire and Fury,” explained, “I know this because I know what he has told me, and I can track his exquisite, too-good-not-to-be-true gossip through unsourced reports and as it often emerges into accepted wisdom.”

The nature of anonymous sources means that you usually can’t quite tell where Mr. Carlson has been helpful, but he occasionally makes it clear by saying on the record what he had previously said off the record. Last March, for instance, after stories about how he had rushed to Mar-a-Lago to warn Mr. Trump of the seriousness of the Covid-19 threat, Mr. Carlson told the story on the record in an interview with Joe Hagan of Vanity Fair.

 

[SBG]

The mainstream media and the political establishment are the ones pushing the Desantis meme. It's just an attempt to try and divide the Trump GOP voter base.

That's sort of what I meant by the GOP favoring DeSantis and why I didn't say republican voters did. When referring to the voter base I try to say Republicans instead since they're the voters versus the GOP who are the bureaucrats and lifetime politicians. Like McConnell is part of the GOP who would likely favor DeSantis over Trump.

I don't ever hear people refer to Republican voters as GOP so I feel like this is appropriate phrasing.

 

[9Style]

Happened ages ago. Basically Trump does his whole thing fighting to get stuff like wall construction done and actions on illegals and so on, but much of the time Tucker was gossiping with leftwing journos and agreeing most of the left wing propaganda about how Trump was incompetent about one thing or another. It all came to a head towards the start of the Rona mania when Tucker was pissed Trump wasn't taking a harsher stance about fighting coronavirus than he already was.

Tucker was even one of the popular sources for journos wanting to shit talk Trump. Trump gets chatty with all variety of people, including Tucker for the longest time, and Tucker used the opportunity to feed into the palace intrigue that had been going on and talking about how awful Trump was.
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Tucker Carlson Calls Journalists ‘Animals.’ He’s Also Their Best Sour…

archived 21 Jun 2021 15:49:18 UTC

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So whats this great stuff they have on Trump? Alls I remember Russiagate, Pee Tape, Ukrainegate. Two scoops, Fish food, Golfing.

 

[SBG]

So whats this great stuff they have on Trump? Alls I remember Russiagate, Pee Tape, Ukrainegate. Two scoops, Fish food, Golfing.

Nowhere, which is what makes Tucker promoting the negative image of Trump to all these journos and book writers all the weird to me.

 

[Gehenna]

Nowhere, which is what makes Tucker promoting the negative image of Trump to all these journos and book writers all the weird to me.

It is important to remember.
No political figure is on 'your side'. Anyone who steps into politics has their own agenda, their own purposes, and is willing to engage in duplicity. Yes, this includes me.

Politics runs on a thin layer of corruption, duplicity, and backscratching. An agreement to look the other way, play up rivalries, and make deals under the table. Tucker is exactly a product of this. A mouthpiece for moneyed and political interests on the 'right'. But even before the uniparty, and in fact in any healthy political system, the difference between Left and Right can be very small when behind closed doors. The problem for Tucker is that he can't seem to grasp that ours is not a healthy political system. That the differences becoming entrenched are not part of a grand play, but very really and very painful divides.

 

[SBG]

The problem for Tucker is that he can't seem to grasp that ours is not a healthy political system.

Disagree on this, kinda. I think Tucker's problem is not recognizing how dishonest or misleading our news media is.

Most right wing media is commentary based, which means commenting purely on what is reported by mainstream media. Tucker is a major part of that just commenting on what is said by the MSM which is ostensibly left wing, so he ends up gravitating towards a world view matching the left's.

Feel like Tucker is similar to Ann Coulter in that regard. They both largely accept the left's premises on what is going on in the news so you find both taking anti-Trump stances at times, while they'd try sounding pro-Trump when in front of the right audiences. I think people get fooled by Tucker more because he isn't dumb enough to sperg out out right on his show so you can only tell he's weird about Trump from behind the scenes reporting and interviews he does for other outlets.

 

[Gehenna]

Disagree on this, kinda. I think Tucker's problem is not recognizing how dishonest or misleading our news media is.

Most right wing media is commentary based, which means commenting purely on what is reported by mainstream media. Tucker is a major part of that just commenting on what is said by the MSM which is ostensibly left wing, so he ends up gravitating towards a world view matching the left's.

Feel like Tucker is similar to Ann Coulter in that regard. They both largely accept the left's premises on what is going on in the news so you find both taking anti-Trump stances at times, while they'd try sounding pro-Trump when in front of the right audiences. I think people get fooled by Tucker more because he isn't dumb enough to sperg out out right on his show so you can only tell he's weird about Trump from behind the scenes reporting and interviews he does for other outlets.

You had me nodding that this could be possible until the Coulter bit.

Coulter is 100% aware of not only how broken everything is but the narratives of them. Coulter is just a mercenary, willing to sell her Conservative credentials to the highest bidder. There is a very good reasons he was the first to really push Trump as a viable candidate in the election where it was proven that the other side was pushing Trump as a pied-piper candidate. I respect the women for the sheer level of mercenary intent she has and willingness to sell anything to make money, but she is fundamentally in it as a mercenary and is in no way mislead as to the state of things.

 

[SBG]

There is a very good reasons he was the first to really push Trump as a viable candidate in the election where

Many people cite her appearance on Bill Maher's how as her pushing Trump, however people would often leave out how she promoted Romney as the best candidate right after her alleged push for Trump. Which makes me think her Trump comment was meant more as a joke than anything.

Even in interviews she did with Breitbart Radio with Milo she was complaining about how Trump was handling things, suggesting she didn't really understand what made him work. Even to this day she'll do all sorts of mental gymnastics to argue why Trump world is wrong about something rather than just agree with them on something like that 2000 mules documentary.

 

[Gehenna]

Many people cite her appearance on Bill Maher's how as her pushing Trump, however people would often leave out how she promoted Romney as the best candidate right after her alleged push for Trump. Which makes me think her Trump comment was meant more as a joke than anything.

Even in interviews she did with Breitbart Radio with Milo she was complaining about how Trump was handling things, suggesting she didn't really understand what made him work. Even to this day she'll do all sorts of mental gymnastics to argue why Trump world is wrong about something rather than just agree with them on something like that 2000 mules documentary.


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I did just say she was incredibly mercenary. That includes being paid by both sides.
Clinton wanted their pied piper, the RNC wanted Romney. Why not get paid for both?