Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

[LeChampion1992]

Considering the target audience for this con and the fact that Oklahoma is an open carry state, my money is on something gun related.

Seeing how far the con is away from the city center and seeing how this con is basically in the sticks not downtown Tulsa but suburban Tulsa I think this con will probably go off without a hitch. What I predict will occur is Free Fur All goes off mildly with a couple of hundred of attendee's. maybe we see some Facebook or Twitter video but most of the furries in North Texas and Oklahoma who will go to this will have a good time and ignore the drama. I think the seething will come from lefty types that are upset their not in charge of this event. It's not political control their worried about. It's lazy troonish staff that's scared of losing their position of right wingers basically prove. "we dont need forced diversity and pronoun checkers."

 

[Rat Lord]

Speaking of larpers looks like the furry raiders guys are actually going to be providing staffing and support along with attending free fur all.(Archive)
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I for one cannot wait to see how this turns out.

Wait a second is that Kabs art I see?

 

[The Big O]

Wait a second is that Kabs art I see?

Why, yes. Yes it is.

I could be mistaken, but isn't this the sort of thing that would get the leftyfurs to raise the torches and pitchforks at Kabs?

 

[Furry Troon]

I could be mistaken, but isn't this the sort of thing that would get the leftyfurs to raise the torches and pitchforks at Kabs?

That was already done a long time ago, including one stealing her twitter handle when she baleeted

 

[Realhat]

Free For all is going to make for a shitload of drama, no matter how well or poorly it's run. I honestly hope it goes well (if only for the fact it would make half of furry twitter implode in rage), but I'm also a realist, so I made a bingo card on everything that could potentially go wrong.

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I feel like several of these are free spaces, in addition to the one so marked.

Foxler is expected to be there, based on comments in the Raiders telegram chat.

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A fire alarm gets pulled at every con--at least every con I've ever been to.

Attendance over 400 would be remarkable; the hotel next to the convention center has approximately 100 rooms, it would be absolutely packed to accommodate that many. (As of this posting, it is almost but not quite sold out during the con dates.) Oklahoma's two other conventions, Tails and Tornadoes and AnthroExpo, only see attendance numbers in the 500s and 600s respectively according to WikiFur, and those aren't brand new cons.

 

[Pinball 2000]

Attendance over 400 would be remarkable; the hotel next to the convention center has approximately 100 rooms, it would be absolutely packed to accommodate that many.

Admittedly, the 400 might be a bit high, but for reference, that was the estimated number of furries who showed up to capital city fur con, and $4000 for charity was the (alleged) amount raised at said event.

I figure if free fur all can come anywhere close to those amounts, they've already beat the disaster of ccfc by default.

 

[Ratboy Genius]

I thought this con was all about reject politics/drama, return to pure furry escapism
A panel about cancel culture seems completely opposite to that premise...

 

[Corn Flakes]

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I thought this con was all about reject politics/drama, return to pure furry escapism
A panel about cancel culture seems completely opposite to that premise...

For one, they seem to be angling more for "free speech" and less "return to monke escapism".

For two, most disgruntled furries these days hate cancel culture with a passion because they don't get to use gamer words online anymore.

So this panel is 100% pandering to their target audience.

 

[Sintharia]

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I thought this con was all about reject politics/drama, return to pure furry escapism
A panel about cancel culture seems completely opposite to that premise...

This definitely sounds like it’s going to be hilarious. A panel about avoiding the consequences of your own actions, led by people for whom the consequences came calling. All framed with an air of “But if we call it ‘Cancel Culture,’ it shows we’re the REAL victims here!”

 

[Emperor Percival Tachyon]

For one, they seem to be angling more for "free speech" and less "return to monke escapism".

For two, most disgruntled furries these days hate cancel culture with a passion because they don't get to use gamer words online anymore.

So this panel is 100% pandering to their target audience.

This is why I cringe at groups like this. Not because they're right wing, not because they're "LITERAL NAZIS!!!11!1!" but because they spend so much time whining about how politics has infiltrated their fandom and how much they hate it, and they can't enjoy it as escapism anymore, but the moment they actually get what they want, their own space away from the mainstream political bent of the fandom, what do they do? Bring politics right back into it and bitch about cancel culture instead of trying to enjoy the event they supposedly worked so hard to make independent from the rest of their fandom. You're right it's not "return to escapism" for them, but I think you're a little off the mark on it being free speech either. Freer than the mainstream fandom in some aspects, absolutely, but you bet they would freak out if someone disagreed with their Furry Raider larp "politics" (if you can even call that politics). They only hate politics when it's not theirs that gets blasted from the rooftops. Everything is culture war, all the time.

 

[Corn Flakes]

This is why I cringe at groups like this. Not because they're right wing, not because they're "LITERAL NAZIS!!!11!1!" but because they spend so much time whining about how politics has infiltrated their fandom and how much they hate it, and they can't enjoy it as escapism anymore, but the moment they actually get what they want, their own space away from the mainstream political bent of the fandom, what do they do? Bring politics right back into it and bitch about cancel culture instead of trying to enjoy the event they supposedly worked so hard to make independent from the rest of their fandom. You're right it's not "return to escapism" for them, but I think you're a little off the mark on it being free speech either. Freer than the mainstream fandom in some aspects, absolutely, but you bet they would freak out if someone disagreed with their Furry Raider larp "politics" (if you can even call that politics). They only hate politics when it's not theirs that gets blasted from the rooftops. Everything is culture war, all the time.

There's a reason why I put double quotes around "free speech". It's just a buzzword for them, just like "inclusivity" for the left-wing furries.

Regardless, looking at their schedule, they don't seem to have an overabundance of political panels. Only two pop out to me: "no more politics" and "canceling cancel culture". They certainly have got a lot more 2 the Gryphon than would be healthy for anyone to take in, but that's neither here nor there. I fully expect the guests to make plenty of political jokes, precisely because you don't go to a convention like that without being at least neutral towards the staff's overt political stances, but that just comes with the territory.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it goes. Me, I'm sticking with my prediction of a bomb threat. At the very least, I expect to see the venue evacuated at least once, in the middle of one of 2's many, many panels.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

They certainly have got a lot more 2 the Gryphon than would be healthy for anyone to take in

...holy shit you weren't kidding.

I like how he has an Overcoming Addiction panel. So is he just asking the audience for advice or

 

[NotFatChild]

There's a reason why I put double quotes around "free speech". It's just a buzzword for them, just like "inclusivity" for the left-wing furries.

Regardless, looking at their schedule, they don't seem to have an overabundance of political panels. Only two pop out to me: "no more politics" and "canceling cancel culture". They certainly have got a lot more 2 the Gryphon than would be healthy for anyone to take in, but that's neither here nor there. I fully expect the guests to make plenty of political jokes, precisely because you don't go to a convention like that without being at least neutral towards the staff's overt political stances, but that just comes with the territory.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it goes. Me, I'm sticking with my prediction of a bomb threat. At the very least, I expect to see the venue evacuated at least once, in the middle of one of 2's many, many panels.

I'm going to put my imaginary kiwi dollars on team 'nothing will probably happen.'

The real fun will be watching the seething on twitter.

 

[sex haver]

Almost every single panel is run by either 2 or con staff. Only two panels the entire weekend are being run by "community panelists", and one of them is an inflatables fetish panel (lol). Could they really not find anyone else to host panels, or was that an intentional move so they could keep a really tight grip on panels?

Also, what's with the weird obsession over Nerf guns? There's two "Nerf or Nothing" panels, and the map posted earlier in the thread showed a entire room dedicated to just Nerf stuff.

 

[Mikoyan]

I like how it's 'con staff' or 'staff panelist' for most of them because they know it's going to be brigade time if their names are known.

 

[Spoonomancer]

Also, what's with the weird obsession over Nerf guns? There's two "Nerf or Nothing" panels, and the map posted earlier in the thread showed a entire room dedicated to just Nerf stuff.

Because they weren't allowed to bring real guns to a convention center

 

[JohnDoe]

Also, what's with the weird obsession over Nerf guns? There's two "Nerf or Nothing" panels, and the map posted earlier in the thread showed a entire room dedicated to just Nerf stuff.

Because they weren't allowed to bring real guns to a convention center

Nerf guns are fun though, if we're being honest. A lot of the modern ones are kinda gimmicky and overdesigned but gosh they bring back fond memories of ambushing siblings and peppering then with foam darts.

 

[The Rabbit Holes]

Also, what's with the weird obsession over Nerf guns? There's two "Nerf or Nothing" panels, and the map posted earlier in the thread showed a entire room dedicated to just Nerf stuff.

Because they weren't allowed to bring real guns to a convention center

Nerf Gun/Foam dart gun modding is popular with anyone 60/50 and under. Paintball and airsoft are the more painful, tactical predecessors. It's the fun of guns and miltary larping where you get to actually shoot each other. It's actually a pretty healthy, active, skill-based hobby. Lots of young men and women learning accuracy, teamwork, mental focus, getting mentored. For the older folks, staying in shape mentally and physically alongside nostalgia or the ability to bond with their children. It's also very family friendly, can be turned into actual competitions, or just done in a field behind someone's house. Nerf has the bonus of being able to be done inside a house, garage, or just in a driveway/street.

Yes, most adults into the hobby will probably have real guns as well, either because of safety, prior military service, or hobby. Double that correlation as you move out of Bug Man territory.

Nerf just happens to make the most consistent, moddable range of foam dart weapons and attachments and has dominated the market for them since the early 2000's. Like how kleenex=nose tissue.

Most conventions actually ban even nerf as props, because it has moving parts and no red tips + fear of the darts, so them getting to have a full Nerf Fight Room is pretty neat.


/sperg over

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

I like how he has an Overcoming Addiction panel. So is he just asking the audience for advice or

I know this is KF but I'd like to srs the fuck up a little on this one
He had real addiction issues 5 years ago where he weaned himself off of booze

I was under the impression that we want lolcows to stop producing milk and become upstanding members of society

 

[Athena's Biggest Fan]

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I thought this con was all about reject politics/drama, return to pure furry escapism
A panel about cancel culture seems completely opposite to that premise...

How to deal with cancel culture:
Step 1) Stop showing your whole ass to the world online and doing the stupidest shit imaginable.

End of panel.

Fits in with my general philosophy on life: Live your life in such a way that wouldn't get you a thread on KiwiFarms.