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Featured on Aug 4, 2022 by Null: Hollie Dance is entering the final rounds of appeals in a fight with the UK's NHS to gain control of her son, Archie, whose brain stem is necrotic.
Lisa Pittaway, now known as Hollie Dance, is the mother of a child, Archie, who appears to have committed suicide though she attempts to blame it on a modification to a TikTok Challenge. She is a recipient of unversial credit which appears to be the UK's version of welfare. Her son has been declared dead as of May 31st by the High Court, but she refuses to allow the hospital to remove his ventilator. She grifts for money even though all legal fees and hospital bills are comped. She has now prolonged the usage of an ICU room for almost two months despite the fact her son is declared dead. She has publicly been asked in interviews if she would want to take Archie home and she has stated no that she feels he should be in hospital. This is not a situation like Tinslee or the others where the parent wants the child with them, she just wants him to be deemed alive for as long as possible to continue this grift.
Majority of the the videos and interviews (Including one with Jeremy Kyle) were done instead of spending time with her son after being given withdrawal of ventilation orders. Here are the orders she was given every time and her and her followers beliefs on them both bad and good. There was also rumor that she wanted to live stream his ventilator removal.











Lisa Pittaway/Hollie Dance
This Video is From Four Years Ago
Hollie changed her name, in 2014, (Have left the picture as is from how Hollie herself posted it on 7/26) it appears to distance herself from scrutiny of her history causing scenes and being an actual violent person. She states name change was easier then a divorce when asked why she did it. Her Facebook before it was sanitized showed that she was a stripper and that she worked at MULTIPLE Gentleman's Clubs. There was also rumor that she may have done work on the side as well. She also worked as a ring girl at MMA fights. It also seems that she had random people on Facebook calling her for phone sex. Katz and Club Tantalize speak about being premiere lap-dancing clubs.






Some of the posts from her now deleted blog have been archived, but many are lost. They show pretty much how little accountability was given to Archie's actions. At 5 years old Archie became a statemented child (In the US this is equivalent to a child being deemed a behavioral issue and given IEP services) Even then she places blame anywhere but her own actions. The only form of punishment she speaks of using on him was public embarrassment and on social mediaYou can see her lovely grasp of the english language in what she has told him to write: "i go explore to learn"








Most of the images posted by Hollie of her son would be considered pedobait style images. These were images she either decided to publicly post in support of him or ones she sent to articles (Archive) to post of her child.






Some of the many articles on her include:

Road Rage Article 1 (Archive)
Ear Drops Instead of Eye Drops (Archive)
Pole Dance Company Article (Archive)
Streaking at a Local Foot Ball Game (Archive)
Older Brother Almost Gets Hurt with Glass (Archive)
Hollie's Brother Goes to Jail (Archive)
After Being Released From Year In Jail He Did It Again (Archive)
Her name seems to be in connection to the fact that Hollie is a pole dance "instructor" or at the very least was one. She had created a business name, but there was some shady shit even in that. She continues to use her email address of poledanceuk @ hotmail.co.uk for court proceedings. Her Facebook before being cleaned showed more ass shots then a cam whores. She also had obvious posts proving she was a stripper and lap-dancer for multiple gentleman's clubs and ran her own sex phone line off Facebook.



There was discussion that drugs are involved with her as well but that is not proven. As part of her deleted facebook she did state that Archie vaped.




In this article (Archive) she advertised her business by stating she was going to fundraiser for breast cancer awareness, but there never was a follow up to state she actually did give the money to the unit. For a woman who LOVES to get herself publicity it seems odd that would not exist.
Her business page has been hosed from the web but the wayback machine lets us get an idea of what it was like:



Her business ended up being dissolved:







This is an example of the type of rants that Hollie posts and then deletes. She admits in here that the gofundme will NOT be used to pay the courts its actually be stated by the court she CAN'T use it for that:



Some rather disconcerting messages between her and her oldest son were found by another forum user:










Archie Battersbee
Not much is known about pre-suicide Archie except for what his mom shows and stuff found on a now deleted TikTok where his username was painhub1679. It seems though that he was a depressed child from some of his postings. He also had been excluded (expelled) from his school for 2 years until Hollie forced via court a school to take him in. He required 1:1 while in school due to behavioral issues. His mother has always had inclinations of being quite litigious. There were postings discussing that Archie may have shown signs of being depressed before this happened (Also seems Ella Carter really likes to harass people).



Here is what other users were able to grab from Archie's TikTok as well as archiving the main page.








Archie actually alluded to suicide and nooses on his TikTok in a shirt he decorated:


He also had himself a little girlfriend whose parents made her a part of EVERYTHING going on and have warped her mind with the story Hollie is putting out.





It is known that he was a gymnast and into MMA at an early age. She acts like he is some prodigy in this sport, but videos and images shown in the general tard thread were commented to very poor in form and stuff for his age. There also appears though she states hes in it competitively no rewards except for participation rewards usually given for goals met in the sports club itself. It appears that his first actual competitive fight was booked for the week after his suicide.












Another forum user posted this video where It appears that his mother's profession wasn't really hidden
A few videos from his accounts that show the attitude he would show online and candidly. For some reason most pre-accident videos have been deleted. It is almost like Hollie does not want people to remember her child before the accident.
The Accident
There are multiple stories on what happened on April 7th. What is know as fact is that Archie hung himself with a dressing cord off their banister and was without oxygen long enough that his brain ceased functioning. The mother has differing tales of her own involvement, what she saw, how long things took, etc.
Some of the tales Hollie has given for this event include (Up to 11 now) :
They attempt to state this was due to a Tiktok challenge. Tiktok themselves have made a statement on this and the challenge they refer to does not involve hanging oneself over a banister. The "choking challenge" has existed long before Tiktok existed and the CDC even put out a report (Archive) on it dating back to 1995 stating that its been known of since 1970. Tiktok (Archive) spoke out itself in regards to Hollie's comments.

An example of one of her many stories on what happened:
Another video she states that the morning before she caught him with the ligature and attempting to use it with the doorknob of a bedroom door:
Hospital




Archie is on a ventilator, feeding tube and numerous medications just so that he is able to be "alive." It was noted that no sedation is required for Archie and this was confirmed by his mother. She does not realize that this actually goes against her case that he is fine since sedation is used since the body's autonomic response to a ventilator done in the way it is in Archie would be to fight against it. Archie has no gag reflex nor any of the normal reflexes that should be shown in even someone in a persistent vegetative state. If you look at the wall during the videos she posts from Archie's room there is a big banner that states "DO RESUCITATE! NO END OF LIFE CARE!"
She had fought for him to be trached by the hospital said no. She also planned to do a vigil to try to force the hospital to do what she wished. She also has broken hospital rules by sneaking the rabbit in. She seems to constantly think she knows more then the hospital and requests things be changed such as REMOVING his TPN. She also admits to video recording the doctors and nurses and has actively accused them of trying to kill Archie for his organs.








After the court date she started stating that the MRIs used weren't Archie's. It is believed she was told to tone this down because much of this was deleted.




The mother posts many conspiracy theories about the hospital itself. She had stated previously that they only want Archie to die so they can harvest his organs. She has also stated that they screw with his feeds and his ventilator settings. Archie is medically fragile and when he has events due to this she has blamed nurses stating that they purposely caused them. She also accused them of letting him bleed all over when in reality it was a line that got jostled and had to be relocated.











Some more accusations she has made against the hospital include (These were made publicly in an article listed below):


Hollie fights that Archie responds to her via squeezing her hand and heart rate via his monitor. No one has been able to reproduce these effects and the videos she shows do not show him squeezing her hand at all. She has only ever produced one video to attempt to prove this. Her Army told her to obtain an Apple watch for him to keep tabs since she and they believed the nurses were altering things which she has done. He has had sepsis as well as multiple infections. She also believes the fact he drools proves that his brain works. She added onto this to say she had proof he was breathing as well.






There has been statements by people that she has been harassive to staff and letting people onto the unit. She attempted to make a show of this for her army by making a vague post then exaggerating it up later. There also have been multiple reports of her trying to live feed the removal of his ventilation.




Different med lists have shown up in her postings. It has been stated he is on a lot of pressors to keep his blood pressure up. The hospital states that he will suddenly just lose a bunch of fluid via his urine or diarrhea which causes his blood pressure to drop significantly.



She has posted photos like this to show Archie "opening his eyes" which has lead to numerous chants of "Open Your Eyes Archie" from
her army.

Glasgow Coma Scale discussed in the court documents shows Archie with a score of 3. This is the lowest score you can obtain on this test. There is also a flowchart on brain death as well that is helpful in understanding Archie's state.



At one point Hollie accused them of ignoring the fact that Archie probably had a broken neck and posted about an MRI she saw "bone lump".



Barry
Barry is a little stuffed monkey that they bring to all the court appointments as a type of proxy for Archie. He gets stories written about him to show his antics and they went so far as to one time dressing him up in robes and a wig and placing him in front of the judges.






Hollie got banned from facebook the day before the withdrawal finally took place. The vitrol from her and her army the night before was just what was expected.








She made interviews though that night and a vigil was planned.



The turn out was not what was to be expected by the RSVPs and seemed to mainly be the more obessive AA people.




Spread The Purple Wave/Archie's Army


Spread The Purple Wave began on April 10th and the first go fund me appeared at the same time. The group was originally called Spread The Purple Wave and it involves spamming purple hearts on Facebook and using purple as their primary color for their fundraising. Though the group is private they seem to accept anyone who joins. They also readily boot anyone that doesn't completely state Archie is alive and not brain dead for being "negative". They also request there own users bring them people to support their case. YET Hollie went to and harassed a suicide prevention page of someone who had their sister commit suicide two years prior.


They have flat out told their users to not look at any of the court info or post about it. That Hollie is the only authority in what happens. As of July 21st, they are actively deleting anyone who brings up what happens in court now since it proves Hollie has been lying to the Facebook group.



Multiple followers have obtained tattoos or dermal piercings for Archie as well as his brother with his full back tattoo:



They send messages and for Hollie to read to Archie, Bibles, Huggy Wuggy Bootleg (which caused a tangent about he was a devil toy or something), Gold Pants and scarily post this image about how a man respond to his own on being in this situation. They also have a thread of affirmations for Archie that some of the users read off for themselves.







They made fanart as well as well as altars and creepy family posts:









And the little girls that showed up at the vigil were extra creepy in the way their were photographed by their parents in a message to Archie.


They also attempted at times to discuss ways to barricade the hospital room or have a protest. A vigil was done, but though 63 people signed up there did not appear to be much of an actual showing.



They also had their users spam the UN, a politician and google review bomb the hospital.







Dignity for All
The other Facebook involved in the Archie Debate (As well as Gard and Evans) is Dignity For All. At a glance the site seemed to be just a site gathering accurate information without Hollie's twist on things. On further glance though it appears that they in some sense wish to instigate drama themselves. They have now since deleted their facebook group after callouts from AA to contact employers of all members of the group.
As they became a refuge for Archie's Army comments began in a random post with a misspelled version of the admin's name (who was not an admin themselves) that there was a new private group opening up. The only way to get into this group was to message this person. Since it seemed that they were being tricked it was posted about here and this lead to them making snarky comments in a private group in what appears to be an attempt to get a response. The posts were leaked from the private group as well as the info that their new Facebook group is set that your account has to have been active for at least 6 months to join.





They are back to posting now on the main account since it appears the issue was they were banned again due to reporting by members of Archie's Army. The drama and banning of members caused a portion of DFA to make a new group "True4All Truth Respect Unity Empathy"



Archie's Army versus Dignity for All
Stunt pulled by Hollie that lost her a lot of followers
Hollie and her army hate a website called Dignity for All which discusses different cases and situations that involve issues with dignity to those who are dead or dying. Hollie refers to them as hospital trolls and at first truly seemed to believe the website consisted of actual physical people at the hospital. Hollie has also put out large profanity filled rants about DFA. Her admin have actually made comments stating people who are against Hollie should "die."






Hollie and her family are not beyond telling other people to kill themselves on the DFA site. Her eldest son has actually flat out told people to kill themselves which seems to go against his preclevity for happy snowmen. Which should be a reminder to all what you post online never leaves ESPECIALLY if it involves sodomy and a snowman.





Ella Carter has actually spent time publicly finding people on DFA to harass and outting their private lives onto the Archie's Armys Facebook. She then supported people going after these people by contacting their employers.





They have attempted to get DFA shut down and have harassed people there to the point some actually got Facebook banned. One even tried to get the police to get the page shut down. They also do not understand that if you publicly post something saying "Do Not Share" does not make it suddenly a crime to share it.





It appears that the DFA site is becoming a refuge for AA people in the last few days. Numerous people left after Hollie posted this video realized just what type of person she was and that this has been a show for her and not about Archie's interests at all.

These same followers are also heading to here, Tattlelife and reddit as well as they learn what Hollie is really about.
E-Begging
Current Total £48,474 ($51,517) - Pre True-Death Total £46,002 ($55,720)
It should be noted that the court itself has stated that all legal representation is pro bono and HAS been pro bono this entire time. So these fundraisers asking for legal aid are fraudelent really since she is not paying any of these barristers. The ebegging for legal aid also began before they were even notified that a case was being brought against them. (Go Fund me went up 4/10, letter from hospital about legal proceedings posted earlier is 4/27).


Hollie has admitted plans to use the fundraising money even if Archie dies.

Go Fund Me #1 (Archive)- £35,307 ($42,859)
Ella has deleted this campaign after they cashed out.
This one closed on 8/6 to start a 3rd one.
Ella Carter took over this GoFundMe from another user. This requested legal and medical funding when nothing legal would have happened yet and Archie's treatment is free in the UK. His funeral costs will also be covered in part by a government fund set up for just this issue. The total for this gofundme drops periodically as people demand refunds.
Just Giving #1 (Archive) - £10,695 ($13,021)
They closed this one on 7/30 to cash out before it hit its goal.

Just Giving #2 (Archive) - £2,354 ($2,619)
Hollie has started her own fundraiser for money for "Memory for Archie" MMA Lessons. She has changed the goal whenever it gets hit to a new higher one. It started at £1,000 then was changed to £2,500 and now to £5,000. She has never shown any proof that this money has been used to help any child get a membership anywhere.



Just Giving #3 (Archive) - £118 ($132)
Kelley Marie's relative started up a FOURTH GoFundMe. You may remember her as the one who was taping/photoing the removal from the ventilator and then attempting with her husband to use Archie's death to up her tiktok rankings.


There was a "charity event" that went on where they gave the money to Hollie herself. £1,000 ($1,200)

Ella has been doubling down on begging for donations as of 7/26 acting as if they funds have run dry. Yet, they do not pay legal fees nor medical fees and shes planning a trip to thailand suddenly. Her boyfriend Hollie's son has also been joking about being able to suddenly put down a bunch of money on the trip.




Miscellaneous Funding
There have been numerous miscellaneous funding done as well. Some have included pretending that Archie's Army is a charity which is against the law in the UK. They also ran raffles with no clear amount given for what was donated.










There is debate on if anything will come out of these, but these items were made and sold/given to other people:




One of the family friends was requesting people give her money privately for fotoball tickets for Archie knowing that at the time he was in hospital on ventilation and not able to attend. These same people also reached out to a charities.



The person who ran the raffle came to the light and realized the shit going on with Hollie. She then started to refund for people who requested and Hollie went insane she was losing money from the gofundme while at the same time her son's life support was going to be turned off in under an hour (She of course got another stay at the 11th hour) The amount that flipped her out equated to £120($145).




Petitions
Chang.org Petition (Archive)
CitizenGo Petition (Archive)
The court cases seemed to only escalate Hollie's accusations and such on Facebook.








Majority of the the videos and interviews (Including one with Jeremy Kyle) were done instead of spending time with her son after being given withdrawal of ventilation orders. Here are the orders she was given every time and her and her followers beliefs on them both bad and good. There was also rumor that she wanted to live stream his ventilator removal.











Lisa Pittaway/Hollie Dance
This Video is From Four Years Ago
Hollie changed her name, in 2014, (Have left the picture as is from how Hollie herself posted it on 7/26) it appears to distance herself from scrutiny of her history causing scenes and being an actual violent person. She states name change was easier then a divorce when asked why she did it. Her Facebook before it was sanitized showed that she was a stripper and that she worked at MULTIPLE Gentleman's Clubs. There was also rumor that she may have done work on the side as well. She also worked as a ring girl at MMA fights. It also seems that she had random people on Facebook calling her for phone sex. Katz and Club Tantalize speak about being premiere lap-dancing clubs.






Some of the posts from her now deleted blog have been archived, but many are lost. They show pretty much how little accountability was given to Archie's actions. At 5 years old Archie became a statemented child (In the US this is equivalent to a child being deemed a behavioral issue and given IEP services) Even then she places blame anywhere but her own actions. The only form of punishment she speaks of using on him was public embarrassment and on social mediaYou can see her lovely grasp of the english language in what she has told him to write: "i go explore to learn"








Most of the images posted by Hollie of her son would be considered pedobait style images. These were images she either decided to publicly post in support of him or ones she sent to articles (Archive) to post of her child.






Some of the many articles on her include:

Road Rage Article 1 (Archive)
Ear Drops Instead of Eye Drops (Archive)
Pole Dance Company Article (Archive)
Streaking at a Local Foot Ball Game (Archive)
Older Brother Almost Gets Hurt with Glass (Archive)
Hollie's Brother Goes to Jail (Archive)
After Being Released From Year In Jail He Did It Again (Archive)
Her name seems to be in connection to the fact that Hollie is a pole dance "instructor" or at the very least was one. She had created a business name, but there was some shady shit even in that. She continues to use her email address of poledanceuk @ hotmail.co.uk for court proceedings. Her Facebook before being cleaned showed more ass shots then a cam whores. She also had obvious posts proving she was a stripper and lap-dancer for multiple gentleman's clubs and ran her own sex phone line off Facebook.



There was discussion that drugs are involved with her as well but that is not proven. As part of her deleted facebook she did state that Archie vaped.




In this article (Archive) she advertised her business by stating she was going to fundraiser for breast cancer awareness, but there never was a follow up to state she actually did give the money to the unit. For a woman who LOVES to get herself publicity it seems odd that would not exist.
Her business page has been hosed from the web but the wayback machine lets us get an idea of what it was like:



Her business ended up being dissolved:







This is an example of the type of rants that Hollie posts and then deletes. She admits in here that the gofundme will NOT be used to pay the courts its actually be stated by the court she CAN'T use it for that:



I can only advise everyone on this page to do their own research on brain stem death , if a dead person can hold a body temperature, fight off a bug , fight off a chest infection and fight off sepsis . Can urinate concentrated urine , have a rumbling tummy , heart beat , control its own blood pressure, pick and choose when to reflex ie who's hand it would hold . Hold sodium levels , change potassium levels , poo or not to poo . Open eyes slightly, tears. Absorb food and yes back on 55ml feeds hourly .Not their choice but outside Authority over seeing now .
Important notice This is not a problem with the nurses ( apart from 3 they have all been amazing looking after Archie , I can't thank them enough.They do an excellent hard job and are over worked and under paid so this has never been aimed at nurses.
The gynecologist ( founder of the hospital) who told me whilst Archie was supposed to be in neauro protection that he is brain dead !!!
Course I question how she would know as the CT scan from southend showed blood flow to anterior and posterior brain .Also making own attempts to breath so put in an induced coma. So how would she know day 3 whilst still in an induced coma ? Next why when he was sent from southend to have a procedure to release swelling did she make the choice wait and see decision and do nothing !!!. Why has that gynecologist not been named in court as she was Admitting consultant? How comes she apparently left the hospital no longer works here in April yet ordered the MRI scan and signed her name on 31st May( didn't cover that lie to well did u ) Lol if none of this rings alarm bells
then pls carry on researching for yourself.
Why have we not touched the go fund me? Because we haven't been allowed to move him . Why haven't we had private specialists and blood tests by independent doctors ? Because the hospital won't allow it . The day the brain stem test was supposed to be carried out , why did the nerve test not work on Arch but did the examiner ? Why did that examiner ask the hospital if Arch had been given muscle relaxin drugs 3 times , why did 9 bags of fluid go up that night when I said I want a private blood test done ???? Normal amount fluids bags be 3 / 4 max ? . Why did yhe gynecologist tell me Archie sedation only took 40 minutes to be out his body then she could do brain stem test and it would be her that done it ? Followed by then we will discuss his organs. Yes just 40 min , it took 5 days for his legal limit to drop in the testing bracket! .
No brain stem test has been carried out I repeat NO BRAIN stem test has been carried out because the examiner was baffled by results of nerve test (muscle relaxin drugs ) Right now for best bit ready ..... MRI produced infront of court had no name , hospital number, date nothing on . It was questioned by my barrister. Next day it was produced ( just the 6 pics out of 2500) with details going across the skull only the day before the hospital said the pics had been cropped so details were cut out . OK so how are they now running across the skull when the cropped area was blank.
OK now here's the biggy!!!! How has the MRI image of Archie only got 9 bottom teeth but 3 separate nurses have counted 12 . I wonder why
I'm questioning every god dam thing this hospital are saying about my child . Mri is not a legal way to declare someone dead . Too quick to want him gone and because of these handful of listed things here along with other things I need to be 100% sure before I give up on my son.
Not 51% but 100% .
Also malnutrition causes necrosis so please bare this in mind not just brain stem death of 10% . Dr shemon is 100% more qualified than any doctor on Archies case and did 1 of them cross examine him . Did they heck. Nurse I told today apparently I should be by Archies bedside lol. Her reply is you don't leave his bedside and if you wanted too we are here lol. I haven't been home once.
Interviews are minutes long and needed to stop all things in Archies case being repeated with maybe your child . The online challenge I have never said the name of the app not once " I refer to it as online challenge " if police find different I will name it . It may not be a challenge and may still of been an accident .
Is Archie an unhappy child ? Not a chance . Does Arch have a RIP thing on his tik tok ? Yes it's about his favourite singer xtentation who died .
Did the trolls put 2 and 2 together there and come up with 2500 lol .
Have I got a past ? Hell yes .
Do I consent to you trolls using my sons pics and making up fake accounts about him ? No and it's being dealt with.
Did the court say we couldn't use go fund me page for legal fees? Yes only on 1st court appearance but then it was lifted with some reporting restrictions . Was our legal team pro bono ? Yes just for 2 weeks . Have we used £10.000 towards 3rd solicitor? Yes . How is rest of legal fees being paid ? Christian legal for solicitor and Barrister along with any legal fees that we are expected to pay from just giving page .
If I can move Archie I will use the go fund me. If I'm allowed specialist it will be from go fund me. If the money is not used what will it go towards if all goes wrong ? The best send off ever and the rest in trying to change the laws . Have I even used money from go fund me for so much as a cup of coffee ? Not a penny . I'm so sorry I have to answer this but there really are some incredibly thick trolls under mainly fake profiles and I think they may be losng sleep so there are your next questions to bicker about .
Run rats run . To the rest of Archiesarmy and support pls research and tell me you wouldn't do what I'm doing . The law needs changing " it should be a personal choice made by the parents not The trust , court or guardian. I'm not allowed to use none of this really in court as the case isn't about that bit I will be using it all in the future . Do I have proof of what I aledge? 100% I do . Will I back down ? Not a chance .
Important notice This is not a problem with the nurses ( apart from 3 they have all been amazing looking after Archie , I can't thank them enough.They do an excellent hard job and are over worked and under paid so this has never been aimed at nurses.
The gynecologist ( founder of the hospital) who told me whilst Archie was supposed to be in neauro protection that he is brain dead !!!
Course I question how she would know as the CT scan from southend showed blood flow to anterior and posterior brain .Also making own attempts to breath so put in an induced coma. So how would she know day 3 whilst still in an induced coma ? Next why when he was sent from southend to have a procedure to release swelling did she make the choice wait and see decision and do nothing !!!. Why has that gynecologist not been named in court as she was Admitting consultant? How comes she apparently left the hospital no longer works here in April yet ordered the MRI scan and signed her name on 31st May( didn't cover that lie to well did u ) Lol if none of this rings alarm bells
then pls carry on researching for yourself.
Why have we not touched the go fund me? Because we haven't been allowed to move him . Why haven't we had private specialists and blood tests by independent doctors ? Because the hospital won't allow it . The day the brain stem test was supposed to be carried out , why did the nerve test not work on Arch but did the examiner ? Why did that examiner ask the hospital if Arch had been given muscle relaxin drugs 3 times , why did 9 bags of fluid go up that night when I said I want a private blood test done ???? Normal amount fluids bags be 3 / 4 max ? . Why did yhe gynecologist tell me Archie sedation only took 40 minutes to be out his body then she could do brain stem test and it would be her that done it ? Followed by then we will discuss his organs. Yes just 40 min , it took 5 days for his legal limit to drop in the testing bracket! .
No brain stem test has been carried out I repeat NO BRAIN stem test has been carried out because the examiner was baffled by results of nerve test (muscle relaxin drugs ) Right now for best bit ready ..... MRI produced infront of court had no name , hospital number, date nothing on . It was questioned by my barrister. Next day it was produced ( just the 6 pics out of 2500) with details going across the skull only the day before the hospital said the pics had been cropped so details were cut out . OK so how are they now running across the skull when the cropped area was blank.
OK now here's the biggy!!!! How has the MRI image of Archie only got 9 bottom teeth but 3 separate nurses have counted 12 . I wonder why
I'm questioning every god dam thing this hospital are saying about my child . Mri is not a legal way to declare someone dead . Too quick to want him gone and because of these handful of listed things here along with other things I need to be 100% sure before I give up on my son.
Not 51% but 100% .
Also malnutrition causes necrosis so please bare this in mind not just brain stem death of 10% . Dr shemon is 100% more qualified than any doctor on Archies case and did 1 of them cross examine him . Did they heck. Nurse I told today apparently I should be by Archies bedside lol. Her reply is you don't leave his bedside and if you wanted too we are here lol. I haven't been home once.
Interviews are minutes long and needed to stop all things in Archies case being repeated with maybe your child . The online challenge I have never said the name of the app not once " I refer to it as online challenge " if police find different I will name it . It may not be a challenge and may still of been an accident .
Is Archie an unhappy child ? Not a chance . Does Arch have a RIP thing on his tik tok ? Yes it's about his favourite singer xtentation who died .
Did the trolls put 2 and 2 together there and come up with 2500 lol .
Have I got a past ? Hell yes .
Do I consent to you trolls using my sons pics and making up fake accounts about him ? No and it's being dealt with.
Did the court say we couldn't use go fund me page for legal fees? Yes only on 1st court appearance but then it was lifted with some reporting restrictions . Was our legal team pro bono ? Yes just for 2 weeks . Have we used £10.000 towards 3rd solicitor? Yes . How is rest of legal fees being paid ? Christian legal for solicitor and Barrister along with any legal fees that we are expected to pay from just giving page .
If I can move Archie I will use the go fund me. If I'm allowed specialist it will be from go fund me. If the money is not used what will it go towards if all goes wrong ? The best send off ever and the rest in trying to change the laws . Have I even used money from go fund me for so much as a cup of coffee ? Not a penny . I'm so sorry I have to answer this but there really are some incredibly thick trolls under mainly fake profiles and I think they may be losng sleep so there are your next questions to bicker about .
Run rats run . To the rest of Archiesarmy and support pls research and tell me you wouldn't do what I'm doing . The law needs changing " it should be a personal choice made by the parents not The trust , court or guardian. I'm not allowed to use none of this really in court as the case isn't about that bit I will be using it all in the future . Do I have proof of what I aledge? 100% I do . Will I back down ? Not a chance .
Some rather disconcerting messages between her and her oldest son were found by another forum user:










Archie Battersbee
Not much is known about pre-suicide Archie except for what his mom shows and stuff found on a now deleted TikTok where his username was painhub1679. It seems though that he was a depressed child from some of his postings. He also had been excluded (expelled) from his school for 2 years until Hollie forced via court a school to take him in. He required 1:1 while in school due to behavioral issues. His mother has always had inclinations of being quite litigious. There were postings discussing that Archie may have shown signs of being depressed before this happened (Also seems Ella Carter really likes to harass people).



Here is what other users were able to grab from Archie's TikTok as well as archiving the main page.








Archie actually alluded to suicide and nooses on his TikTok in a shirt he decorated:


He also had himself a little girlfriend whose parents made her a part of EVERYTHING going on and have warped her mind with the story Hollie is putting out.





It is known that he was a gymnast and into MMA at an early age. She acts like he is some prodigy in this sport, but videos and images shown in the general tard thread were commented to very poor in form and stuff for his age. There also appears though she states hes in it competitively no rewards except for participation rewards usually given for goals met in the sports club itself. It appears that his first actual competitive fight was booked for the week after his suicide.












Another forum user posted this video where It appears that his mother's profession wasn't really hidden
A few videos from his accounts that show the attitude he would show online and candidly. For some reason most pre-accident videos have been deleted. It is almost like Hollie does not want people to remember her child before the accident.
The Accident
There are multiple stories on what happened on April 7th. What is know as fact is that Archie hung himself with a dressing cord off their banister and was without oxygen long enough that his brain ceased functioning. The mother has differing tales of her own involvement, what she saw, how long things took, etc.
Some of the tales Hollie has given for this event include (Up to 11 now) :
- Original story was that she was in the house and didn't seem Archie for 10 minutes or so then came and found him hanging by the dressing cord. She then states she cut him down and he fell 8 feet and she ran out screaming and a neighbor came and did CPR until paramedics arrived. In this original story he was without oxygen for 40 minutes.
- Later her story would change that he was only without oxygen for about 3 minutes and she did everything herself.
- Another story involved her walking out of her room about 5 minutes after he played a joke on her to find him laying on the floor at top of stairs where she undid the cord and started CPR there.
- Another story involved her coming home finding him hanging.
- Two stories involved no rabbit, but them coming home from dinner and suddenly he's on the hallway staircase. The only difference in the accounts is one she does CPR and one she runs around outside until she finds a neighbor to do CPR.
- Some stories involve a joke with a rabbit before hand, some do not. They either end with her being all happy about it to her screaming at him about it.
- “I’ve left the room after a couple of minutes …. well not a couple of minutes like a few minutes. I’d had a phone call and just pottered around really”
- “A couple of phone calls, well …. uh … two phone calls had taken place. A couple of text messages and then… Sorry, so when I’d made the first phone calls he’d come into my room on the last phone call and then I’d put the phone down. That’s when we had the conversation about the rabbit.”
- Another version has the bunny story gone and that she was out of the house and came home and Archie was laying on the floor with the cord around his neck.
- Her newest version of the story is the most perplexing yet. Now it states that he was playing with the rabbit tripped and somehow the dressing cord around his neck attached itself to the banister and hanged him.
They attempt to state this was due to a Tiktok challenge. Tiktok themselves have made a statement on this and the challenge they refer to does not involve hanging oneself over a banister. The "choking challenge" has existed long before Tiktok existed and the CDC even put out a report (Archive) on it dating back to 1995 stating that its been known of since 1970. Tiktok (Archive) spoke out itself in regards to Hollie's comments.

An example of one of her many stories on what happened:
Another video she states that the morning before she caught him with the ligature and attempting to use it with the doorknob of a bedroom door:

Hospital




Archie is on a ventilator, feeding tube and numerous medications just so that he is able to be "alive." It was noted that no sedation is required for Archie and this was confirmed by his mother. She does not realize that this actually goes against her case that he is fine since sedation is used since the body's autonomic response to a ventilator done in the way it is in Archie would be to fight against it. Archie has no gag reflex nor any of the normal reflexes that should be shown in even someone in a persistent vegetative state. If you look at the wall during the videos she posts from Archie's room there is a big banner that states "DO RESUCITATE! NO END OF LIFE CARE!"
She had fought for him to be trached by the hospital said no. She also planned to do a vigil to try to force the hospital to do what she wished. She also has broken hospital rules by sneaking the rabbit in. She seems to constantly think she knows more then the hospital and requests things be changed such as REMOVING his TPN. She also admits to video recording the doctors and nurses and has actively accused them of trying to kill Archie for his organs.








After the court date she started stating that the MRIs used weren't Archie's. It is believed she was told to tone this down because much of this was deleted.




The mother posts many conspiracy theories about the hospital itself. She had stated previously that they only want Archie to die so they can harvest his organs. She has also stated that they screw with his feeds and his ventilator settings. Archie is medically fragile and when he has events due to this she has blamed nurses stating that they purposely caused them. She also accused them of letting him bleed all over when in reality it was a line that got jostled and had to be relocated.











Some more accusations she has made against the hospital include (These were made publicly in an article listed below):
- She stated Archie got sepsis because the hospital refused to clean his room.
- Now he opens his and eyes and is very drowsy.
- She states again they are starving him.
- She wants Archie to not be sedated. (Yet later admits he is not on sedation.)
- She thinks the MRI is wrong because she only saw 8 teeth in it instead of 13.
- She thinks necrosis is reversible.
- She thinks that they purposely put Archie on muscle relaxers so he'd fail the precursor test
- She equates children being put near the nurses desk as them zeroing out a child to kill not that they require extra attention because they are in a seriously bad way.
- She accuses the hospital of attempting to cause cardiac arrest by giving him potassium.


Hollie fights that Archie responds to her via squeezing her hand and heart rate via his monitor. No one has been able to reproduce these effects and the videos she shows do not show him squeezing her hand at all. She has only ever produced one video to attempt to prove this. Her Army told her to obtain an Apple watch for him to keep tabs since she and they believed the nurses were altering things which she has done. He has had sepsis as well as multiple infections. She also believes the fact he drools proves that his brain works. She added onto this to say she had proof he was breathing as well.






There has been statements by people that she has been harassive to staff and letting people onto the unit. She attempted to make a show of this for her army by making a vague post then exaggerating it up later. There also have been multiple reports of her trying to live feed the removal of his ventilation.




Different med lists have shown up in her postings. It has been stated he is on a lot of pressors to keep his blood pressure up. The hospital states that he will suddenly just lose a bunch of fluid via his urine or diarrhea which causes his blood pressure to drop significantly.



She has posted photos like this to show Archie "opening his eyes" which has lead to numerous chants of "Open Your Eyes Archie" from
her army.


Glasgow Coma Scale discussed in the court documents shows Archie with a score of 3. This is the lowest score you can obtain on this test. There is also a flowchart on brain death as well that is helpful in understanding Archie's state.



At one point Hollie accused them of ignoring the fact that Archie probably had a broken neck and posted about an MRI she saw "bone lump".



Barry
Barry is a little stuffed monkey that they bring to all the court appointments as a type of proxy for Archie. He gets stories written about him to show his antics and they went so far as to one time dressing him up in robes and a wig and placing him in front of the judges.






Hollie got banned from facebook the day before the withdrawal finally took place. The vitrol from her and her army the night before was just what was expected.








She made interviews though that night and a vigil was planned.



The turn out was not what was to be expected by the RSVPs and seemed to mainly be the more obessive AA people.




Spread The Purple Wave/Archie's Army


Spread The Purple Wave began on April 10th and the first go fund me appeared at the same time. The group was originally called Spread The Purple Wave and it involves spamming purple hearts on Facebook and using purple as their primary color for their fundraising. Though the group is private they seem to accept anyone who joins. They also readily boot anyone that doesn't completely state Archie is alive and not brain dead for being "negative". They also request there own users bring them people to support their case. YET Hollie went to and harassed a suicide prevention page of someone who had their sister commit suicide two years prior.


They have flat out told their users to not look at any of the court info or post about it. That Hollie is the only authority in what happens. As of July 21st, they are actively deleting anyone who brings up what happens in court now since it proves Hollie has been lying to the Facebook group.



Multiple followers have obtained tattoos or dermal piercings for Archie as well as his brother with his full back tattoo:



They send messages and for Hollie to read to Archie, Bibles, Huggy Wuggy Bootleg (which caused a tangent about he was a devil toy or something), Gold Pants and scarily post this image about how a man respond to his own on being in this situation. They also have a thread of affirmations for Archie that some of the users read off for themselves.







They made fanart as well as well as altars and creepy family posts:









And the little girls that showed up at the vigil were extra creepy in the way their were photographed by their parents in a message to Archie.


They also attempted at times to discuss ways to barricade the hospital room or have a protest. A vigil was done, but though 63 people signed up there did not appear to be much of an actual showing.



They also had their users spam the UN, a politician and google review bomb the hospital.







Dignity for All
The other Facebook involved in the Archie Debate (As well as Gard and Evans) is Dignity For All. At a glance the site seemed to be just a site gathering accurate information without Hollie's twist on things. On further glance though it appears that they in some sense wish to instigate drama themselves. They have now since deleted their facebook group after callouts from AA to contact employers of all members of the group.
As they became a refuge for Archie's Army comments began in a random post with a misspelled version of the admin's name (who was not an admin themselves) that there was a new private group opening up. The only way to get into this group was to message this person. Since it seemed that they were being tricked it was posted about here and this lead to them making snarky comments in a private group in what appears to be an attempt to get a response. The posts were leaked from the private group as well as the info that their new Facebook group is set that your account has to have been active for at least 6 months to join.





They are back to posting now on the main account since it appears the issue was they were banned again due to reporting by members of Archie's Army. The drama and banning of members caused a portion of DFA to make a new group "True4All Truth Respect Unity Empathy"



Archie's Army versus Dignity for All
Stunt pulled by Hollie that lost her a lot of followers
Hollie and her army hate a website called Dignity for All which discusses different cases and situations that involve issues with dignity to those who are dead or dying. Hollie refers to them as hospital trolls and at first truly seemed to believe the website consisted of actual physical people at the hospital. Hollie has also put out large profanity filled rants about DFA. Her admin have actually made comments stating people who are against Hollie should "die."






Hollie and her family are not beyond telling other people to kill themselves on the DFA site. Her eldest son has actually flat out told people to kill themselves which seems to go against his preclevity for happy snowmen. Which should be a reminder to all what you post online never leaves ESPECIALLY if it involves sodomy and a snowman.





Ella Carter has actually spent time publicly finding people on DFA to harass and outting their private lives onto the Archie's Armys Facebook. She then supported people going after these people by contacting their employers.





They have attempted to get DFA shut down and have harassed people there to the point some actually got Facebook banned. One even tried to get the police to get the page shut down. They also do not understand that if you publicly post something saying "Do Not Share" does not make it suddenly a crime to share it.





It appears that the DFA site is becoming a refuge for AA people in the last few days. Numerous people left after Hollie posted this video realized just what type of person she was and that this has been a show for her and not about Archie's interests at all.

These same followers are also heading to here, Tattlelife and reddit as well as they learn what Hollie is really about.
E-Begging
Current Total £48,474 ($51,517) - Pre True-Death Total £46,002 ($55,720)
It should be noted that the court itself has stated that all legal representation is pro bono and HAS been pro bono this entire time. So these fundraisers asking for legal aid are fraudelent really since she is not paying any of these barristers. The ebegging for legal aid also began before they were even notified that a case was being brought against them. (Go Fund me went up 4/10, letter from hospital about legal proceedings posted earlier is 4/27).


Hollie has admitted plans to use the fundraising money even if Archie dies.

Go Fund Me #1 (Archive)- £35,307 ($42,859)
Ella has deleted this campaign after they cashed out.
This one closed on 8/6 to start a 3rd one.
Ella Carter took over this GoFundMe from another user. This requested legal and medical funding when nothing legal would have happened yet and Archie's treatment is free in the UK. His funeral costs will also be covered in part by a government fund set up for just this issue. The total for this gofundme drops periodically as people demand refunds.
Just Giving #1 (Archive) - £10,695 ($13,021)
They closed this one on 7/30 to cash out before it hit its goal.

Just Giving #2 (Archive) - £2,354 ($2,619)
Hollie has started her own fundraiser for money for "Memory for Archie" MMA Lessons. She has changed the goal whenever it gets hit to a new higher one. It started at £1,000 then was changed to £2,500 and now to £5,000. She has never shown any proof that this money has been used to help any child get a membership anywhere.




Just Giving #3 (Archive) - £118 ($132)
Kelley Marie's relative started up a FOURTH GoFundMe. You may remember her as the one who was taping/photoing the removal from the ventilator and then attempting with her husband to use Archie's death to up her tiktok rankings.


There was a "charity event" that went on where they gave the money to Hollie herself. £1,000 ($1,200)

Ella has been doubling down on begging for donations as of 7/26 acting as if they funds have run dry. Yet, they do not pay legal fees nor medical fees and shes planning a trip to thailand suddenly. Her boyfriend Hollie's son has also been joking about being able to suddenly put down a bunch of money on the trip.




Miscellaneous Funding
There have been numerous miscellaneous funding done as well. Some have included pretending that Archie's Army is a charity which is against the law in the UK. They also ran raffles with no clear amount given for what was donated.










There is debate on if anything will come out of these, but these items were made and sold/given to other people:




One of the family friends was requesting people give her money privately for fotoball tickets for Archie knowing that at the time he was in hospital on ventilation and not able to attend. These same people also reached out to a charities.



The person who ran the raffle came to the light and realized the shit going on with Hollie. She then started to refund for people who requested and Hollie went insane she was losing money from the gofundme while at the same time her son's life support was going to be turned off in under an hour (She of course got another stay at the 11th hour) The amount that flipped her out equated to £120($145).




Petitions
Chang.org Petition (Archive)
CitizenGo Petition (Archive)
The court cases seemed to only escalate Hollie's accusations and such on Facebook.








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