Science Depression is probably not caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain – new study


For three decades, people have been deluged with information suggesting that depression is caused by a “chemical imbalance” in the brain – namely an imbalance of a brain chemical called serotonin. However, our latest research review shows that the evidence does not support it.

Although first proposed in the 1960s, the serotonin theory of depression started to be widely promoted by the pharmaceutical industry in the 1990s in association with its efforts to market a new range of antidepressants, known as selective serotonin-reuptake inhibitors or SSRIs. The idea was also endorsed by official institutions such as the American Psychiatric Association, which still tells the public that “differences in certain chemicals in the brain may contribute to symptoms of depression”.

Countless doctors have repeated the message all over the world, in their private surgeries and in the media. People accepted what they were told. And many started taking antidepressants because they believed they had something wrong with their brain that required an antidepressant to put right. In the period of this marketing push, antidepressant use climbed dramatically, and they are now prescribed to one in six of the adult population in England, for example.

For a long time, certain academics, including some leading psychiatrists, have suggested that there is no satisfactory evidence to support the idea that depression is a result of abnormally low or inactive serotonin. Others continue to endorse the theory. Until now, however, there has been no comprehensive review of the research on serotonin and depression that could enable firm conclusions either way.

At first sight, the fact that SSRI-type antidepressants act on the serotonin system appears to support the serotonin theory of depression. SSRIs temporarily increase the availability of serotonin in the brain, but this does not necessarily imply that depression is caused by the opposite of this effect.

There are other explanations for antidepressants’ effects. In fact, drug trials show that antidepressants are barely distinguishable from a placebo (dummy pill) when it comes to treating depression. Also, antidepressants appear to have a generalised emotion-numbing effect which may influence people’s moods, although we do not know how this effect is produced or much about it.

Doctor writing a prescription
Around one in six people in England are prescribed antidepressants. fizkes/Shutterstock
First comprehensive review
There has been extensive research on the serotonin system since the 1990s, but it has not been collected systematically before. We conducted an “umbrella” review that involved systematically identifying and collating existing overviews of the evidence from each of the main areas of research into serotonin and depression. Although there have been systematic reviews of individual areas in the past, none have combined the evidence from all the different areas taking this approach.

One area of research we included was research comparing levels of serotonin and its breakdown products in the blood or brain fluid. Overall, this research did not show a difference between people with depression and those without depression.

Another area of research has focused on serotonin receptors, which are proteins on the ends of the nerves that serotonin links up with and which can transmit or inhibit serotonin’s effects. Research on the most commonly investigated serotonin receptor suggested either no difference between people with depression and people without depression, or that serotonin activity was actually increased in people with depression – the opposite of the serotonin theory’s prediction.

Research on the serotonin “transporter”, that is the protein which helps to terminate the effect of serotonin (this is the protein that SSRIs act on), also suggested that, if anything, there was increased serotonin activity in people with depression. However, these findings may be explained by the fact that many participants in these studies had used or were currently using antidepressants.

We also looked at research that explored whether depression can be induced in volunteers by artificially lowering levels of serotonin. Two systematic reviews from 2006 and 2007 and a sample of the ten most recent studies (at the time the current research was conducted) found that lowering serotonin did not produce depression in hundreds of healthy volunteers. One of the reviews showed very weak evidence of an effect in a small subgroup of people with a family history of depression, but this only involved 75 participants.

Very large studies involving tens of thousands of patients looked at gene variation, including the gene that has the instructions for making the serotonin transporter. They found no difference in the frequency of varieties of this gene between people with depression and healthy controls.

Although a famous early study found a relationship between the serotonin transporter gene and stressful life events, larger, more comprehensive studies suggest no such relationship exists. Stressful life events in themselves, however, exerted a strong effect on people’s subsequent risk of developing depression.

Some of the studies in our overview that included people who were taking or had previously taken antidepressants showed evidence that antidepressants may actually lower the concentration or activity of serotonin.

Not supported by the evidence
The serotonin theory of depression has been one of the most influential and extensively researched biological theories of the origins of depression. Our study shows that this view is not supported by scientific evidence. It also calls into question the basis for the use of antidepressants.

Most antidepressants now in use are presumed to act via their effects on serotonin. Some also affect the brain chemical noradrenaline. But experts agree that the evidence for the involvement of noradrenaline in depression is weaker than that for serotonin.

There is no other accepted pharmacological mechanism for how antidepressants might affect depression. If antidepressants exert their effects as placebos, or by numbing emotions, then it is not clear that they do more good than harm.

Although viewing depression as a biological disorder may seem like it would reduce stigma, in fact, research has shown the opposite, and also that people who believe their own depression is due to a chemical imbalance are more pessimistic about their chances of recovery.

It is important that people know that the idea that depression results from a “chemical imbalance” is hypothetical. And we do not understand what temporarily elevating serotonin or other biochemical changes produced by antidepressants do to the brain. We conclude that it is impossible to say that taking SSRI antidepressants is worthwhile, or even completely safe.

If you’re taking antidepressants, it’s very important you don’t stop doing so without speaking to your doctor first. But people need all this information to make informed decisions about whether or not to take these drugs.
 
Fuck you, I'm not letting you take away my myosin protein animation from me.
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There has never been any hard evidence of the chemical imbalance theory. On top of that the more recent non-pharma funded studies have called the efficacy of SSRIs and other drugs used to treat mental illness into question. They seem to work very poorly, on a small subsection of the populace if they work at all. In some cases they lead to worse outcomes like suicide and mass shooters. Add to that most cultures don't have the rates of mental illness that we do and what we consider lifelong afflictions like schizophrenia are temporary everywhere else. It starts to seem like psychology doesn't actually understand human psychology very well and that what we believe to be a biological illness is one of socially and individually created issues.
 
There has never been any hard evidence of the chemical imbalance theory. On top of that the more recent non-pharma funded studies have called the efficacy of SSRIs and other drugs used to treat mental illness into question. They seem to work very poorly, on a small subsection of the populace if they work at all. In some cases they lead to worse outcomes like suicide and mass shooters. Add to that most cultures don't have the rates of mental illness that we do and what we consider lifelong afflictions like schizophrenia are temporary everywhere else. It starts to seem like psychology doesn't actually understand human psychology very well and that what we believe to be a biological illness is one of socially and individually created issues.

Jordan Peterson the clinical psychologist said that there was research to suggest that Depression isn't linked to serotonin. But actually to chronic pain.

I can personally attest to that, I am already on antidepressants. I broke my wrist and got opioid painkillers over the counter. Depression actually went away. Well, until the ban on opioids. Now I'm back to being depressed.
 
There has never been any hard evidence of the chemical imbalance theory. On top of that the more recent non-pharma funded studies have called the efficacy of SSRIs and other drugs used to treat mental illness into question. They seem to work very poorly, on a small subsection of the populace if they work at all. In some cases they lead to worse outcomes like suicide and mass shooters. Add to that most cultures don't have the rates of mental illness that we do and what we consider lifelong afflictions like schizophrenia are temporary everywhere else. It starts to seem like psychology doesn't actually understand human psychology very well and that what we believe to be a biological illness is one of socially and individually created issues.
In defense of the mechanism of the drugs, the rise in suicides and homicides has been thought of like this:

>Depressed
>Too lazy to kill
>Add energy
>KILL
 
It's probably minor brain damage. The theory of chemical imbalances has to hold some validity just because of countless studies implicating hormonal effects on mood.
I agree with this. My dad is getting very depressed but he’s also had a bunch of concussions over his life and I think it’s catching up with him.

Someone close to me has a chronic disease that will kill them eventually; the depression maps to the pain levels.
 
I bet if they ran some tests on these people looking for vitamin deficiencies some of them would come back as vitamin D deficient. About 45% of the US population is vitamin D deficient these days. That's nearly half the population. A lot of people hardly leave their houses anymore and no it didn't start with the China virus. You need an hour of direct sunlight a day to keep your vitamin D levels up. You can get some from the foods you eat especially dairy. But direct sunlight is where it mostly comes from. With people working indoors more often these days it doesn't help either. Sitting under lights in an office or in a warehouse isn't going to help you keep you vitamin D levels up.

I am not saying this would fix all the cases. But I bet some of them have a deficiency in vitamin D.
 
I know less than most about serotonin, but from looking at this can I assume that it can lead to:

-Person is depressed
-Person is given serotonin
-Person is still depressed but now feels good
-"I am starting to believe my negative thoughts are normal, maybe I should act on them"
-???
- "The suspect was known to the FBI"
 
I bet if they ran some tests on these people looking for vitamin deficiencies some of them would come back as vitamin D deficient. About 45% of the US population is vitamin D deficient these days. That's nearly half the population. A lot of people hardly leave their houses anymore and no it didn't start with the China virus. You need an hour of direct sunlight a day to keep your vitamin D levels up. You can get some from the foods you eat especially dairy. But direct sunlight is where it mostly comes from. With people working indoors more often these days it doesn't help either. Sitting under lights in an office or in a warehouse isn't going to help you keep you vitamin D levels up.

I am not saying this would fix all the cases. But I bet some of them have a deficiency in vitamin D.

People in the west have such shitty diets of processed carbs with little to no actual nutritional content and they hardly get enough sun. Not to mention most ag land has been depleted of micronutrients. Most people are malnourished nutritionally.

As to vitamin D, it's been found that the recommended daily allowance is far too low; we need at least 10x what has been recommended.
In defense of the mechanism of the drugs, the rise in suicides and homicides has been thought of like this:

>Depressed
>Too lazy to kill
>Add energy
>KILL

That's always seemed like such a post hoc rationalization with little evidence to back it up. What evidence we do have is that antidepressant usage can lead to an increase in suicidal ideation that wasn't present before. It is also well documented that SSRIs and SNRIs cause Akathisia, which primarily presents as a movement disorder but also often presents with feelings of irritability, rage, or panic.

So what, it's people pretending so they stay in the "Depression is cool" group?

Or we live in a sick, degenerate society that is unhealthy for human residency at every level.
 
People in the west have such shitty diets of processed carbs with little to no actual nutritional content and they hardly get enough sun. Not to mention most ag land has been depleted of micronutrients. Most people are malnourished nutritionally.

As to vitamin D, it's been found that the recommended daily allowance is far too low; we need at least 10x what has been recommended.


That's always seemed like such a post hoc rationalization with little evidence to back it up. What evidence we do have is that antidepressant usage can lead to an increase in suicidal ideation that wasn't present before. It is also well documented that SSRIs and SNRIs cause Akathisia, which primarily presents as a movement disorder but also often presents with feelings of irritability, rage, or panic.



Or we live in a sick, degenerate society that is unhealthy for human residency at every level.
Years ago, I heard that Americans were taking too many vitamins. With phrases like Americans have the most expensive piss in the world. You have to be careful with vitamin D and only take it as directed. You can OD with vitamin D and it can kill you.
 
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