Debate Mr Cool Ice on how artificial hormones are totally the solution to her being a fat chick with GOTIS

Get a grip, take control of your life, and become self-sufficient. You're an adult, act like it! Stop looking to the crowd for once in your life, and isolate yourself in productive thought. You would've been a halal had someone been eager enough to write it. Your solutions start as soon as you realize they are there and possible, and sitting around trying to find easy solutions will not solve long term problems, which is why HRT is a con game. You need a dietician, focus, and an attitude change, not horse piss concentrate.

In short, get real. I don't care what your circumstances are, I guarantee that through time and human strength, they did more with less in a shorter amount of time. No excuses.
 
Get a grip, take control of your life, and become self-sufficient. You're an adult, act like it! Stop looking to the crowd for once in your life, and isolate yourself in productive thought. You would've been a halal had someone been eager enough to write it. Your solutions start as soon as you realize they are there and possible, and sitting around trying to find easy solutions will not solve long term problems, which is why HRT is a con game.

In short, get real.
This. You've got to stop coming to Kiwifarms. We are not your confidant. We also aren't your diary.

You need a dietician, focus, and an attitude change, not horse piss concentrate.
Wrong type of tranny, but yes.
 
Nice excuse, but I doubt you have any evidence for that. More likely, if they exist, they are mild. What condition do you have that causes "massive" developmental delays? Are you a downie or FASD baby?
I'm Autistic. Diagnosed since I was 8, actually. I was never taught to care for myself and my parents basically worshipped the ground I walked on and did everything for me.
Get a grip, take control of your life, and become self-sufficient. You're an adult, act like it! Stop looking to the crowd for once in your life, and isolate yourself in productive thought. You would've been a halal had someone been eager enough to write it.
Okay, I agree with you. I struggle very hard with all of that. I need to get control. However, someone actually was writing a thread in a group conversation, I don't know if it was scrapped or if they're still refining it, and I know this is an awful idea, but I've gotta ask.
@Jewthulhu are you done? Is it scrapped? You've been making me utterly horrified for the past 4 weeks.
Your solutions start as soon as you realize they are there and possible, and sitting around trying to find easy solutions will not solve long term problems, which is why HRT is a con game.
HRT is the only proven solution to severe Gender Dysphoria, which I have. I've tried therapy, I've tried religion, I've tried "accepting" myself. It doesn't work, it never worked, and it never even came close. I felt worse trying that shit.
You need a dietician, focus, and an attitude change, not horse piss concentrate.
To be fair, you're right. Especially because I'm not going to take estrogen.
In short, get real. I don't care what your circumstances are, I guarantee that through time and human strength, they did more with less in a shorter amount of time. No excuses.
I'm going to get on HRT if it's the last thing I do, but other than that, I agree with you.
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I'm Autistic. Diagnosed since I was 8, actually. I was never taught to care for myself and my parents basically worshipped the ground I walked on and did everything for me.
Enough excuses. I have autism too, I was a junkie retard mentally ill tranny for years, nut up and move on. We all have our lots in life, some people are born rich, some are poor, some people are born with functional bodies, others are born with autoimmune diseases that cause permanent joint damage over time and neurological disorders that cause migraines and daily, chronic pain. You only live once, you have to make the best of it, shoulder your burdens, and do your best. The only person you have to compete against is yourself, try to be a kinder, more hard-working, honorable person every day, and you will improve. It does not matter if you aren't perfect, even if you fail, so long as you pick yourself up and do better each time. It's hard, life sucks, someone will always be better than you and you will always be limited by some circumstance, it is just the way it is, but this is no excuse to give up and write off your past complacency because of your disability. News flash: Everyone is disabled in some manner, whether that be untreated childhood trauma, physical injury, or just their genes, everyone had strengths and weaknesses. If you can write your name and walk a mile, you can improve and learn to function as an adult in society.
 
Thankfully, false alarm. I went to the Urgent Care as an emergency yesterday, and it turns out my blood sugar was ironically completely normal. Meaning I'm still Pre.

I profusely apologize for making everyone worry, and if anything, this is more than enough evidence I should diet harder.
Nobody was worried, you deluded heifer.

You're a sugar addicted fatass with no self control who gets fucking terrified when they're hungry because your gastrointestinal tract is never less than 70% full. That's all.

Factor in the "IM NOT LIKE ALL THE OTHER GIRLS!!!!!!!" and you're basically the waddling epitome of all that's fucked with the world today.


Nothing about you is special, you are a mentally ill girl. You being autistic is moot. Pulling that card on here is fucking absurd.

Ditto your parents. Sure they're crap and should have aborted you. But stop blaming everything and everyone except yourself.

Nobody cares about you. Nobody was worried. And nothing about you is special or meaningful. 41%, already.


Edited to say: found your pictures. You are a girl - I won't call you a woman. Women, like men, are fucking adults and you are a fucking child- and clearly so.

Hormones will not fix that. Nothing will change. You are not a man, never will be and you will never get what you want. And that's the crux of this. Really. That you want something and your useless cunt parents never told you no.

Well, you know what, fatass? Want all you like but you'll never be XY, you'll never have a cock, you'll never be happy, you'll never be complete and you can't have it.
 
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I fucked up, I admit. I want to get better, really bad. I don't know why I've crashed and burned like this.
What I meant by that was: If they hadn't commit to writing a thread about you, you tagging them and then admitting you're afraid of them doing so will certainly give them that boost to finish.

You'll get a 'Person of Interest' added to your profile along with that pink triangle. Stop giving us material. If you want to improve, that is. Log off.
 
Nobody was worried, you deluded heifer.
Good, actually. I'm relieved.
You're a sugar addicted fatass with no self control who gets fucking terrified when they're hungry because your gastrointestinal tract is never less than 70% full. That's all.
This is surprisingly true.
Factor in the "IM NOT LIKE ALL THE OTHER GIRLS!!!!!!!" and you're basically the waddling epitome of all that's fucked with the world today.
Well, I don't waddle and I'm not a girl. However, I know I'll convince you of neither, so agree to disagree?
Edited to say: found your pictures. You are a girl - I won't call you a woman. Women, like men, are fucking adults and you are a fucking child- and clearly so.
Being called a child actually doesn't bother me. I need to grow up badly, and I'm working towards that, but it's true. As retarded as it sounds, I really do have the social & emotional intelligence of a young child.
Hormones will not fix that. Nothing will change. You are not a man, never will be and you will never get what you want. And that's the crux of this. Really. That you want something and your useless cunt parents never told you no.
My parents have told me no a lot, mostly for financial matters, but even though they saw me as a savant, I'm not exactly entitled.
Well, you know what, fatass? Want all you like but you'll never be XY, you'll never have a cock, you'll never be happy, you'll never be complete and you can't have it.
Nobody said anything about changing chromosomes. Even if it was possible, it'd be incredibly dangerous and not worth the risk. I have no interest in sex so a cock would be mostly useless, it's better than what I have, however. I really want to change biology, but I know I can't. HRT is the second best thing.
What I meant by that was: If they hadn't commit to writing a thread about you, you tagging them and then admitting you're afraid of them doing so will certainly give them that boost to finish.
I didn't think that through. Well, I guess I did something retarded again.
You'll get a 'Person of Interest' added to your profile along with that pink triangle. Stop giving us material. If you want to improve, that is. Log off.
I don't understand how the "Person of Interest" thing is so bad. Maybe it's because I'm deliriously tired and am half convinced I'm dreaming, but what's so bad about it? It's just a sticker notifying people you're a sped.
 
God closing the asylums and stopping ECT and lobotomies for hysterical women was the worst thing we ever did and this thread proves it.

If you have the emotional intelligence of a child you should get off the internet and your tard wranglers should restrict your access to it

Furthermore someone of low ability and intelligent and intellect should be refused hrt. If you're not lying, I hope you never get hrt.

You don't even have a doctor for fucks sake. You went to urgent care because you had a weeks long binge.

You will never get on hrt because you arectoo retarded to navigate the medical care system. What, you think you can just go to urgent care and get horse piss pills??
 
You don't even have a doctor for fucks sake. You went to urgent care because you had a weeks long binge.
I actually got one. She canceled her appointment on Thursday because she's sick, but rescheduled for next week, where I'll grill her about getting an endocrinologist.
You will never get on hrt because you are too retarded to navigate the medical care system. What, you think you can just go to urgent care and get horse piss pills??
I can navigate it, but mom does most shit for me. I have a PCP appointment and will try to get referred to an endocrinologist and therapist off the bat. Endocrinologists deal with HRT in trannies and hormonal imbalances in non-transsexuals. I have Gender Dysphoria, and therefore can get a referral.
 
I fucked up, I admit. I want to get better, really bad. I don't know why I've crashed and burned like this.
Holy fuck you're still here, and you got your own debate thread! Congrats, you'd probably get a halal thread if anyone cared about making one about you! Jesus christ kill yourself already
 
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I'm Autistic.
Stop trusting doctors and diagnoses so much.
Modern mental health is extremely experimental and should be considered just another option, not a solid science like they sold it to you. You have been the victim of a scam.
And you are intelligent, just make the jump and take life's value for the experience in itself.
HRT is the only proven solution to severe Gender Dysphoria, which I have. I've tried therapy, I've tried religion, I've tried "accepting" myself. It doesn't work, it never worked, and it never even came close. I felt worse trying that shit.
Even if you had a penis, you would probably feel like that again
You don't need a real "identity" to live, it's just the avatar you use to play an RPG
Get to know yourself. Human personality is too complex to be catalogued by anyone, allow others to have whatever delusion they want about you, in time you can learn to control that more for your benefit, and it's true you are a bit late but that only means you gotta run faster.
If you know what you are and what you truly really want, time makes things right and you don't even need to care about it. You simply "are"
You are strangely introspective for a woman
Don't let judgment drive you insane, go insane before by your own accord and become immune to it. thats my advice young woman.
Be your own madness, not a part of a collective one.
I wouldn't want you to log off you sound like an interesting lolcow keep sharing stuff
Being called a child actually doesn't bother me. I need to grow up badly, and I'm working towards that, but it's true. As retarded as it sounds, I really do have the social & emotional intelligence of a young child.
That's great for artists or other creative jobs, turn your shit into gold.
You just have to test yourself against reality, it's harsh and it will tear through you and what you love.
But thats the fire wall, thats how you evolve.
Good luck.
 
Hey you dumb fucker, did you know that antipsychotics and SSRIS and hormone therapy can all really, REALLY fuck your endocrine system and cause diabetic symptoms of you don't manage your diet? No? Did you research any of your medications? No? At this point idk what to say except that you can't keep being a fucking idiot and expect a different result.

You have the white glove cycle:

- act like retard

- get reprimanded

- act humbled for like 5 seconds

- get actual advice

-pretend to care about your health

- ha ha ha ha just kidding here's tranny Sisyphus and hes back on his dumb fucking hill with his dumb fucking boulder. Except that boulder is your ever growing gunt and the hill is taking decent steps to improve yourself.


Protip: keeping up your dumb bullshit and denial and refusal to help yourself bc you're lazier you think it's easier is actually a fucking lie. You are making things so much harder for yourself. It's an easier life in the long run to do the hard thing now, than to continually add to your dumb choices and come face to face with the reality of your ruined life.
 
I fucked up, I admit. I want to get better, really bad. I don't know why I've crashed and burned like this.

You crashed and burned because you refuse to accept that you are a woman and imagine that there is some sort of transformative diet + surgery+ drugs + hormones that can put you on the road to a happy life. Your unhappiness comes from within, and it can only be cured by becoming fit, healthy, and productive. But you refuse to do that, because stuffing your face and whining on the internet is so much easier. Maybe you and Boogie should get together.
 
You crashed and burned because you refuse to accept that you are a woman and imagine that there is some sort of transformative diet + surgery+ drugs + hormones that can put you on the road to a happy life. Your unhappiness comes from within, and it can only be cured by becoming fit, healthy, and productive. But you refuse to do that, because stuffing your face and whining on the internet is so much easier. Maybe you and Boogie should get together.
I'll be upfront despite my better judgement.
I am not a woman. I have very little interest in ever exercising, and dieting is, for the most part, all I need to do to ease out my blood sugar. Hell, eating one serving instead of 3 or 4 does most of that for me. I'll admit I've been struggling with self control and overdoing it sometimes.
If it isn't enough, I'll attempt exercise, but considering how much I despise it, I doubt I'll do it in the end. At least not for long at all.
It isn't entirely because it's "easier." It's partly because I know I'm not a woman, I never was a woman, and never will be a woman. As for my happiness, I remember being extremely unhappy and even mentally unstable since I was 8.
 
So basically you're just a standard self hating dyke with feminism derangement syndrome that's so not- like-the-other-girls you have to chop your tits off and larp as a man for a few years until you inevitably detransition and walk around like a freak for the rest of your life. Many such cases. Everyday I am genuinely floored by how self-hating and pathetic the average FtM is.
 
So basically you're just a standard self hating dyke with feminism derangement syndrome that's so not- like-the-other-girls you have to chop your tits off and larp as a man for a few years until you inevitably detransition and walk around like a freak for the rest of your life. Many such cases. Everyday I am genuinely floored by how self-hating and pathetic the average FtM is.
I hate feminism as a whole and feel no sexual nor romantic feelings for anyone, really. I can't be a dyke if I'm both not a woman nor really find anyone, let alone women, hot 99% of the time.
So you at least got the "feminist derangement syndrome" bit right. Congrats! I hope your man-hating, retarded ways catch up to you.
Not every FtM is the stereotype you're describing, either. And if you've ever seen a picture of me, I make an extensive effort to pass, or at the very least, not look feminine in the slightest nor like a lesbian.
Ironically, the grand majority of us never detransition because it's the only known working treatment of Dysphoria, even if it's not 100% and needs refining.
I really hope OP has stopped mixing alcohol with antipsychotics. Holy shit. Just don't.
I haven't drank in about a month, and if I drink in the future I'll skip my Risperdal for the night.
 
I fucked up, I admit. I want to get better, really bad. I don't know why I've crashed and burned like this.
Here's a concept: You don't need to get better, you need to DO better.

If you already think you know the answers and have decided you need the HRT, then fuck off, because everyone here disagrees. At this point, you're just here because you're lonely. If you think your answer is correct and the RIGHT one, then shut your mouth and try it already, but I guarantee it's gonna go as well as every other decision you felt was the best one in the past, LOL. Behaviors and decision-making choices are seriously cyclical habits that must be improved constantly to do better, else your standard of life stagnates or decreases. Again, do better, not get better. Don't get me wrong though, there's probably a pill you could use for your natural imbalances that would help if you want that set of pros and cons.

Look, everyone is born to make choices, and if you make bad ones consistently, you are a loser. My stance is that you should stop making the decisions of a loser -- an unhappy person who feels victimized by life itself due to the fact they cannot manifest their will whatsoever -- and instead make the decisions of the winner -- as in, someone who can overcome their challenges in the least self-destructive manner possible for maximum benefit -- and if you don't wanna do that, then fuck off because you're wasting everyone's time trying to convince you otherwise despite your mind being made up. For the record, I think Gender Dysphoria is a very real phenomenon, but people like you don't have it but instead another mental illness you can conceptualize as Gender Dysphoria because you do not understand how your own mind works. I do not understand what would drive a person to so greatly gaslight themselves into thinking that being another gender will help them feel more comfortable (instead of a much simpler solution, which is why I think GD does exist, because there are very occasionally people who genuinely feel better, even if their quality of life doesn't improve otherwise) when all it does is burn out your brain's chemical receptors and make it more susceptible to mental illness. The only exception is for the concept that you are not happy with your progress as a person and believe this misdiagnosis' prescribed remedy may ease your day to day discomfort, but the chances of that are statistically very unlikely -- not a lot of people really have true DSM-based Gender Dysphoria. Maybe you do have it, but honestly, if you actually wanted to be a man, you probably would have taken care of your body. Most medically diagnosed cases of GD that are truly discomforting tend to have put some work in as far as diet and exercise for their body, because it is the thing they obsess about. Do you really think the hormones will help? Don't you think there might be another underlying problem? I'm curious, but you don't have to answer those questions to me, because I don't need to know the answer so I don't care. It is incredible to me how often young people our age nowadays underrate introspection and understanding themselves, because those are the only real ways to become comfortable in life. It gets easier as you grow and understand, you see.

I say all of this not to talk down to you, but because you have attempted to reach out in good, if murky, faith, even if it is on Kiwi Farms where the whole website is dedicating to documenting people reaching out to make bad decisions and defend them, LOL. I think you tend to overcomplicate life greatly for both personal reasons and those beyond your control, which is one of the reasons you do not understand these things we have been saying. Life isn't about coasting and being comfortable, it's about doing the best you can, and if you don't want to do that, good luck, but this conversation's not gonna do you any good.

In short, we can not give you the solution, we can only give you the information you need to solve the problem for yourself, and the onus is on you to figure out the best long term solution. That's the true secret ultimate purpose of Kiwi Farms, I think. It serves as a record of mistakes an embarrassing, forward person makes that can lead them to improve once they realize the reasons they did those things and why they feel bad about it. Don't bother responding to me, I've done more than my fair share to help by saying these things you needed to hear, and I don't care about what you have to say, honestly. I don't think you really need to hear anything else, because everyone else has covered all of the bases.

Cheers.
 
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