Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[Breadbear]

You definitely already know about this, but for anyone else interested in this topic, there's also a phenomenon called a Kennedy terminal ulcer which happens to some people as they die. During the process of death, the organs, including the skin, begin to shut down. Breathing and heart rate slow and blood pressure decreases. Without oxygenated blood, normal cellular function cannot continue and cells die. It's a cascade of events culminating in the cessation of all the body's biological processes.

One of the natural steps in this process is breakdown of the skin, especially over the buttocks and sacrum (tailbone), areas prone to pressure ulcers even in patients who aren't terminal. A Kennedy terminal ulcer is usually regarded as a sign of imminent death. They can develop within only a few hours and they are really horrifying. I think that the patient is generally not lucid or even aware at the point a terminal ulcer develops, but they are understandably extremely upsetting for caregivers and family.

You can Google "Kennedy terminal ulcer", but be warned that the images will be disturbing, to such an extent that I'm not going to post any here, even with a spoiler.

Edited to add that the term "acute skin failure" is also used, for anyone who is sufficiently fucked up to want more things to Google.

Had a client who got one on her hip + upper thigh. She'd been turned to her side to relieve pressure on her tailbone (which was just a giant ulcer at this point).
She died a few days later.

 

[GenociderSyo]

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

You definitely already know about this,

I actually didn't! How fascinating and horrifying. I have learned a lot from people like yourself since I started lurking about, I should claim it for my CPD points.

 

[PeckingOrder]

That rash is getting so bad… it looks so uncomfortable, but luckily Luna doesn’t really register pain or discomfort like other kids, right?

 

[GenociderSyo]

Robyn will probably delete this but she just admitted Luna has intractable epilepsy:

 

[ShadowCass]

For crying out loud Robyn brush that poor boy’s hair!

 

[Filipenisfan420]

Atlas literally dropped the ball right on lunas face to no reaction. He probably just sees her as a squirmy doll

 

[Pippeyy]

Glenn shows the truth a lot more than Robyn, which is saying something since they are both clueless, social media r*tards.
Luna's poor forehead and is she hiccuping or is this just more seizures (jerks)
Also look who has an age appropriate toy without a PT to be seen!

 

[BunchofMunch]

Atlas literally dropped the ball right on lunas face to no reaction. He probably just sees her as a squirmy doll

I'm really surprised Robyn posted that video tbh, since it makes it so obvious how little consciousness/awareness there's left in Luna. She must either think everyone watching is incredibly stupid, or she has completely lost it. Likely both.

 

[Cryptosporidium 136]

I'm really surprised Robyn posted that video tbh, since it makes it so obvious how little consciousness/awareness there's left in Luna. She must either think everyone watching is incredibly stupid, or she has completely lost it. Likely both.

She’s too focused on herself. I’d be surprised if she even looked at Atlas and Luna before posting it.

 

[BunchofMunch]

She’s too focused on herself. I’d be surprised if she even looked at Atlas and Luna before posting it.

Yeah, I guess. I think she used to tidy up her posts way better though, there would often be some pretty strange cuts in many of them, presumably right before Luna had a major seizure or something like this happened. The facade is crumbling.

 

[Cabbagegymnastics]

She’s too focused on herself. I’d be surprised if she even looked at Atlas and Luna before posting it.

PL, but as a parent it’s also just weird to always have yourself in frame when you’re showing off your kid(s) doing something cute or fun. It’s gotta be a generational thing cuz I don’t know any social media literate parents that are this obsessed with themselves.

 

[Barbarella]

I know people with young kids and their photos are only of the kids. But then, they don’t post their kids on social media at all.

She knew Atlas dropped the ball on Luna’s face because she said it in the video. Her nasal baby voice laughed as she said, “don’t drop on Sissy’s face.”

She has completely lost it. She probably always had a personality disorder but not having a perfect daughter distupted her view of herself and she went from a pretty crystal nutrition basic woo mama to deep into weirdo woo territory to help cope.

 

[Sam's Tater Stew]

You definitely already know about this, but for anyone else interested in this topic, there's also a phenomenon called a Kennedy terminal ulcer which happens to some people as they die. During the process of death, the organs, including the skin, begin to shut down. Breathing and heart rate slow and blood pressure decreases. Without oxygenated blood, normal cellular function cannot continue and cells die. It's a cascade of events culminating in the cessation of all the body's biological processes.

One of the natural steps in this process is breakdown of the skin, especially over the buttocks and sacrum (tailbone), areas prone to pressure ulcers even in patients who aren't terminal. A Kennedy terminal ulcer is usually regarded as a sign of imminent death. They can develop within only a few hours and they are really horrifying. I think that the patient is generally not lucid or even aware at the point a terminal ulcer develops, but they are understandably extremely upsetting for caregivers and family.

You can Google "Kennedy terminal ulcer", but be warned that the images will be disturbing, to such an extent that I'm not going to post any here, even with a spoiler.

Edited to add that the term "acute skin failure" is also used, for anyone who is sufficiently fucked up to want more things to Google.

Not to shit up the thread but I have to say that I've learned more from you in the year I've been lurking than in a lifetime of formal education. You're truly a hero of the farms.

 

[TractorGirl]

Not to shit up the thread but I have to say that I've learned more from you in the year I've been lurking than in a lifetime of formal education. You're truly a hero of the farms.

Agreed. I always read Thomas’s spoilers, they’re fascinating and I appreciate the thoroughness and information.

 

[WTFNonsense]

Question about the solids they "feed" her - do they then remove the food or hope she doesn't choke on it on the way down? (Apologies if the answer lies in the videos - I can hardly watch them nor can I tolerate her voice/baby talk)

 

[GenociderSyo]

 

[BunchofMunch]

Question about the solids they "feed" her - do they then remove the food or hope she doesn't choke on it on the way down? (Apologies if the answer lies in the videos - I can hardly watch them nor can I tolerate her voice/baby talk)

I assume they remove the food or Luna would probably have died already by asphyxiation or aspiration pneumonia. She also has her tongue thrust reflex still it seems, so any solids making it down her throat would have to have been shoved there..

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Interestingly, two of the states with some of the worst public health have that policy: Mississippi and WV.

The public health problems there are due to obesity, addictions and poverty. They can’t control what people eat or how they live, but figured they could at least prevent infectious diseases in the schools. (The infectious diseases in the poor rural areas were awful 100 years ago. School and church attendance could get an tier town sick within in days)

Spoiler

I knew a guy who grew up in WV. In the early 1960’s his younger brother contracted encephalitis, they still don’t know how. The moment his brother was Dx at the hospital the county health dept came out and boarded up this ten year old boy in his house alone!! They put a quarantine sign and tape across the door. Sorry about your luck kid, don’t come out, try to get back to you about your mom and brother not being dead soon! (His mom and brother were quarantined at the hospital, brother recovered, no one else infected.)

He had to call a woman who worked at a bowling alley across the street to deliver food to him via leaving it at a window for the next week. He said he basically lived on hot dogs and fries, which he viewed as the only upside of this week.

I always think of this story when ppl went ape shit about the covid stuff. They did not fuck around with infectious disease outbreaks decades ago. People sixty years ago had living memories of entire families being wiped out by infectious outbreaks. I know it was particularly bad when there were outbreaks in some rural communities, it would tear through them like fire. When ppl got sick the hospital usually wasn’t an option, they were cared for at home so everyone in the household would get sick .

Question about the solids they "feed" her - do they then remove the food or hope she doesn't choke on it on the way down? (Apologies if the answer lies in the videos - I can hardly watch them nor can I tolerate her voice/baby talk)

It appears they fish it out after they move it around in her mouth for a bit. I’m dumbfounded at the point of holding a kids head up, forcing food in her mouth, pushing her chin to try and trigger chewing and then removing the food.

She’s never going to eat. She is getting all the nutrition needed thru a feeding tube. Why they subject her to this eating theater is a mystery. Seems like helping with her contractures would be time better spent.

 

[MysticMisty]

In a more functional person they'd be working towards reducing the likelihood of aspiration pneumonia via inhaling their own drool. There's no point to even attempting that much with Luna since she's barely alive and incapable of achieving that much. It's always about what narc mom wants, never what's actually good for Luna.