Horrorcow Hollie Dance / Lisa Pittaway / Ella Carter / Archie Battersbee / Lauren Summers/ Dignity For All / Archie's Army / Spread The Purple Wave - The Mama Nails of Essex, Her Whiteknights, and Her A-Logs

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So we are Hollie supporters now?

If a private page to talk about Hollie suddenly only appears in comments and not one thing was being posted by the main account that was stated to have been unbanned it looks realy suspicious. Especially considering how long your account has been publicly posting about Hollie.

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Looks like they have moved everything to their new private chat:
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They are vetting anyone that attempts to join it seems as well because they have publicly denied people stating they are "supporters of Hollie"
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So someone just set me caps of stuff from the new private group. It appears DFA likes us when they can get stuff from us since they can't get the videos themselves, but we are "hypocrites" when anything they say is questioned.
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Need an opinion on if you all think they need to be added to OP. Figured at first they were just a group gaining info about Hollie and posting it publicly, but their reactions to this they are quite MATI for no reason.
 
if archie was an adult, and he had actual people who loved him, he probably would’ve turned into a boxer better than mcgregor, he’d just be a career criminal
So someone just set me caps of stuff from the new private group. It appears DFA likes us when they can get stuff from us since they can't get the videos themselves, but we are "hypocrites" when anything they say is questioned.
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Need an opinion on if you all think they need to be added to OP. Figured at first they were just a group gaining info about Hollie and posting it publicly, but their reactions to this they are quite MATI for no reason.
Its sad that she’s getting mad at you for telling the honest truth. In fact we’re not even getting on her, we all sympathize with her. We just think that she needs mental health and to take responsibility for her parenting, and let Archie sleep peacefully.
 
This was a lot to take in. I'm having a rough time deciding whether Hollie Dance or Mama Nails is worse, though I know it's too early to tell. How do you really weigh "depressed kid kills himself because of neglectful literal whore mother" against "child is so obese and becomes brain dead because her family fed her a burger after surgery"? It's also incredibly doubtful Hollie was ever remotely religious - that's just another way to grift.

Hollie "mothers" are a dime a dozen, unfortunately. At least in regards to discipline or lack thereof.

Parent(s) will not discipline the child, spoil the child, and enable the child, then ship him/her off to school or the babysitter. If anyone attempts to enforce discipline on the child or acknowledges the demonic behavior, everything becomes a massive conspiracy theory and the staff are just bullying their keeeedz.
 
So someone just set me caps of stuff from the new private group. It appears DFA likes us when they can get stuff from us since they can't get the videos themselves, but we are "hypocrites" when anything they say is questioned.
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Need an opinion on if you all think they need to be added to OP. Figured at first they were just a group gaining info about Hollie and posting it publicly, but their reactions to this they are quite MATI for no reason.
Typical Facebook faggots. “Blah blah Kiwi Farms bad blah blah have they uploaded new info yet?”. Anyway, yeah, I think you should add them to the OP. And as always thanks for the updates, much appreciated.
 
DFA should go in the OP, even of it’s just a mention. In a sense they are the same as Hollie, both trying to grow and control their echo chambers and disavowing anyone for wrongthink.

Anyone and anything is open to be mocked, discussed and laughed at if they have an online presence and are sufficiently retarded/horrifying/etc. This does not make us “hypocrites”, this makes us fairer than anyone involved in this shitshow.

Preaching to the choir I know, but this is more for the benefit of our little lurkers.
 
This was a lot to take in. I'm having a rough time deciding whether Hollie Dance or Mama Nails is worse, though I know it's too early to tell. How do you really weigh "depressed kid kills himself because of neglectful literal whore mother" against "child is so obese and becomes brain dead because her family fed her a burger after surgery"? It's also incredibly doubtful Hollie was ever remotely religious - that's just another way to grift.

Hollie "mothers" are a dime a dozen, unfortunately. At least in regards to discipline or lack thereof.

Parent(s) will not discipline the child, spoil the child, and enable the child, then ship him/her off to school or the babysitter. If anyone attempts to enforce discipline on the child or acknowledges the demonic behavior, everything becomes a massive conspiracy theory and the staff are just bullying their keeeedz.

I've been struggling with the same wrt who is worse. I didn't follow the Mama Nails/Jahi saga live so I'm genuinely not sure how much we knew about Jahi's life before the surgery, but it's hard for me to believe a kid gets that big without something else going on. Obviously Mama Nails was throwing food at her, but things like CSA can also contribute to overeating, right? I don't think anything was kosher there, but I don't know if we had much insight of her situation. Would absolutely and unironically love to be corrected if there was stuff I didn't see.

With Archie, we definitely have at least somewhat of a picture of what he was facing- Hollie's sex work and her behavior toward the other son, Archie's tiktok activity, the whole gymnastics/fighting/whatever the fuck stuff that was posted all over the place. It would be harder to believe there wasn't direct abuse than that there was. And all that culminating in the poor boy necking himself. Both stories are tragic for these kids and in the end both women show that they only care about using their corpses for personal gain. I also can't help but compare the two and wonder which really is worse. In the end, they're both vile and clearly responsible for what happened to their kids, so maybe it doesn't really matter.
 
So someone just set me caps of stuff from the new private group. It appears DFA likes us when they can get stuff from us since they can't get the videos themselves, but we are "hypocrites" when anything they say is questioned.
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Need an opinion on if you all think they need to be added to OP. Figured at first they were just a group gaining info about Hollie and posting it publicly, but their reactions to this they are quite MATI for no reason.
Yes, add them to the OP. From the start I've had the feeling that DFA was kind of feeding off the facebook drama more than anything else, and now it seems they aim to stir some new shit up with you since they can't get a big enough fix from Hollie anymore.
 
Yes, add them to the OP. From the start I've had the feeling that DFA was kind of feeding off the facebook drama more than anything else, and now it seems they aim to stir some new shit up with you since they can't get a big enough fix from Hollie anymore.
Not so wise from a page owner who wants to remain anonymous, is it?
 
I had started getting the cow vibes from DFA some weeks ago but it really got full force recently. Maybe they do deserve some room in the OP.

I think about this classy post mostly. Who would guess who it is about! I think some people called it petty in the comments, then they were completely wiped. I did find a comment before the wipe I suspect to be from the DFA owner, forgetting to swap account (why talk of the photo as if you had uploaded it then?). Obviously fake account but maybe one could dig.
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That dignity for all page has acted with very little dignity. Getting into verbal fights with a grieving mother (as awful she is) is no more dignified than anything else in this shit show. Neither side seem educated or understand their respective positions. They seem like gangsters in a knife fight.

It’s fair to watch, talk, pay attention to the money as we have done. (They got most of their info from us because they were too incompetent to do it together.) Engaging Hollie and Ella was insanely undignified. Yes, they are cows.
 
That dignity for all page has acted with very little dignity. Getting into verbal fights with a grieving mother (as awful she is) is no more dignified than anything else in this shit show. Neither side seem educated or understand their respective positions. They seem like gangsters in a knife fight.

It’s fair to watch, talk, pay attention to the money as we have done. (They got most of their info from us because they were too incompetent to do it together.) Engaging Hollie and Ella was insanely undignified. Yes, they are cows.
It's all about "choosing your side & sticking with it" for these people in both groups. There's little nuance and even less independent research - just emotion fueled playground gang stuff. If there was a bike shed they could square up behind for a bit of shouting & hair pulling far too many of them would be there.
 
This was a lot to take in. I'm having a rough time deciding whether Hollie Dance or Mama Nails is worse
Mama Nails was the first thing to come to mind when I read this OP, which made me wonder, not to lend credit to either mother, why in this instance Archies brain death is leading to him waste away in bed (brain can't communicate to digestive system), but the morbidly obese brain dead girl remained morbidly obese up until death and even began menstruating.
 
This whole thing is about them digging in their heels and wanting to one up "the establishment", because their socioeconomic status has given them challenges which they see as entirely due to other's actions. Very external locus of control stuff.

This isn't, and was never, about Archie and his best interests.

Apologies for quoting a post from ten pages back, but you have very eloquently explained something that I have known for years. I don’t know whether it’s a uniquely British phenomenon either, but it could be.

Thick authority-hating chavs blaming their life of hardship and disadvantage on other people, never themselves. Like you say, external locus of control stuff.

This is exactly why cases like Archie’s always attract so many supporters of a very particular thick chav demographic. As Alfie Evans did before that. And Charlie Gard before that.

It’s never about the children and their best interests, it’s all about aggressively railing against the authorities, because you feel like you’ve spent your entire life having the proverbial boot on your neck.

The people bringing their kids to a riot at a children’s hospital for Alfie Evans was a particular low point.

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