General GunTuber thread

[WhoBusTank69]

This guy has caused a minor controversy by shittalking the ever-reliable 14.5 AR barrel length(also sneaks in an AK diss at the end).

His reasoning(speed and maneuverability vs range effectiveness for the average short-range engagement) isn't completely retarded, with that said recommending 10.5s to "70-80% of people" is touched. Personally I think its just because he's a manlet.

As someone who uses public ranges, I have a deep seething hatred for influencers/guntubers/trainers who push new shooters to buy the shortest length possible.

Clearly the best AR setup is the A2 Dissipator and he is horribly wrong. He can go back into his cave and keep gooning over his tiny ineffective barrel.

 

[Ghjkl63]

the best AR setup for beginners is 16" carbine or mid length. No I will not be changing my mind.

 

[quaawaa]

recommending 10.5s to "70-80% of people" is touched. Personally I think its just because he's a manlet.

A 10.5" AR without a linear compensator or a suppressor is not a good first gun. The concussion is bad, especially indoors.

Beginners also aren't buying NFA items, so they'd end up with a brace and no suppressor if they followed that advice to get a <16" barrel.

 

[make_it_so]

This guy has caused a minor controversy by shittalking the ever-reliable 14.5 AR barrel length(also sneaks in an AK diss at the end).

His reasoning(speed and maneuverability vs range effectiveness for the average short-range engagement) isn't completely retarded, with that said recommending 10.5s to "70-80% of people" is touched. Personally I think its just because he's a manlet.

As someone who uses public ranges, I have a deep seething hatred for influencers/guntubers/trainers who push new shooters to buy the shortest length possible.

I know there tends to be a bit of crossover between guntubers and doomsday preppers (see Nutnfancy), but is this exceptional individual seriously suggesting that close combat effectiveness is something first-time shooters should consider when buying an AR?

Yeah yeah, I know, the 2nd Amendment isn't about deer hunting. But that's an attitude that first time shooters need to develop and come to an understanding of on their own.

Plus Kyle Rittenhouse proved that a standard length AR is more than acceptable for use in a suburban environment.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I know there tends to be a bit of crossover between guntubers and doomsday preppers (see Nutnfancy), but is this exceptional individual seriously suggesting that close combat effectiveness is something first-time shooters should consider when buying an AR?

Yeah yeah, I know, the 2nd Amendment isn't about deer hunting. But that's an attitude that first time shooters need to develop and come to an understanding of on their own.

Plus Kyle Rittenhouse proved that a standard length AR is more than acceptable for use in a suburban environment.

Hell, so long as you aren't being forced to fight room to room there's nothing wrong with the good ol' twenty incher for that matter, but I'm also a bit of a fudd when it comes to barrel length on muh' ARs.

 

[White Devil]

I prefer my 10'', but I also know how to use it. Only way it could be better is if it folded.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

I'm not watching some goon dweeb's stupid video but I can see the logic of most people buy ARs for home defense and home defense would involve a lot of navigating hallways and in and out of rooms so a shorter barrel would be advantageous in that specific instance.

 

[DocAwe]

Clearly the best AR setup is the A2 Dissipator and he is horribly wrong. He can go back into his cave and keep gooning over his tiny ineffective barrel.

My first AR was a rifle gas A2 Dissy.

 

[Archie_Kimkicker]

Who would win in a fight to the death in a dug out pit, naked with only hand wraps and bits of broken glass glued to them; Karl or Yankee Marshal?

The instructions will be unclear to both and they will emerge with monkeypox.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

Plus Kyle Rittenhouse proved that a standard length AR is more than acceptable for use in a suburban environment.

Kyle invalidated so many people's arguments about how you HAVE to spend $5,000 on the most tricked-out AR possible, with the most bespoke German glass and only the finest ammunition and magazines. Dude did what he did with a $650 gun, $100 optic (that I don't even think he really used) and a couple of pmags, and probably whatever ammo was cheapest at Cabela's.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Kyle invalidated so many people's arguments about how you HAVE to spend $5,000 on the most tricked-out AR possible, with the most bespoke German glass and only the finest ammunition and magazines. Dude did what he did with a $650 gun, $100 optic (that I don't even think he really used) and a couple of pmags, and probably whatever ammo was cheapest at Cabela's.

It's the Pareto Principle as applied to gear. 20% of the effort (getting a gun and ammo combination that runs reliably) does 80% of the work. Of course, since you're gambling with your life in a self-defense situation you will want to get as close to 100% as possible, but you've got to recognize the fact that you start hitting diminishing returns very quickly when you do that.

Of course, Rittenhouse did have to deal with a malfunction so clearly his 20-80 effort-to-work ratio was skirting it close. There was a lot of forward assist spergery about that.

 

[White Devil]

Kyle invalidated so many people's arguments about how you HAVE to spend $5,000 on the most tricked-out AR possible, with the most bespoke German glass and only the finest ammunition and magazines. Dude did what he did with a $650 gun, $100 optic (that I don't even think he really used) and a couple of pmags, and probably whatever ammo was cheapest at Cabela's.

You don't HAVE to spend that, but there is a very real quality drop off when it comes to rifles that are made for harsh combat conditions. Let's be honest here, S&W MP15s aren't.

 

[Puff]

The instructions will be unclear to both and they will emerge with monkeypox.

Well, yeah. They'll both enter with monkeypox.

 

[Dvsilverwing]

My first AR was a rifle gas A2 Dissy.View attachment 3530045

Dissipators are the tits. They just don't look right when they have an A4 upper with the detachable carry handle though, gotta have that A2 or A1 upper.

 

[SinistralRifleman]

My first AR, a Bushmaster Dissipator, in 2000

 

[HumptiDouji]

My first AR was a rifle gas A2 Dissy.View attachment 3530045

How's reliability with that? I know there's a lot of fake Dissys with carbine length gas systems because apparently there's thinner margins for reliability, or, at least that's the argument I hear.
A Dissy with a carbine stock definitely would handle excellently.

Kyle invalidated so many people's arguments about how you HAVE to spend $5,000 on the most tricked-out AR possible, with the most bespoke German glass and only the finest ammunition and magazines. Dude did what he did with a $650 gun, $100 optic (that I don't even think he really used) and a couple of pmags, and probably whatever ammo was cheapest at Cabela's.

IIRC it was a single PMag with 30 rounds of some cheap brand of M193 Ball, he said it was the only ammo he could find because of the unrest.

Dissipators are the tits. They just don't look right when they have an A4 upper with the detachable carry handle though, gotta have that A2 or A1 upper.

Seeing an optic mounted on top of a detachable carry handle is just the worst.

 

[DocAwe]

How's reliability with that? I know there's a lot of fake Dissys with carbine length gas systems because apparently there's thinner margins for reliability, or, at least that's the argument I hear.
A Dissy with a carbine stock definitely would handle excellently.


IIRC it was a single PMag with 30 rounds of some cheap brand of M193 Ball, he said it was the only ammo he could find because of the unrest.


Seeing an optic mounted on top of a detachable carry handle is just the worst.

I never had problems with it.
So long as the mags were good it ran.
It was an old colt 20" 1/12 barrel cut to 16" with a permatached break (ban era).
The gas port was also opened up a little bit I can't remember by how much.
No idea who made the upper & the bgc was bushmaster or dpms.
I wouldn't say carbine length gas systems are fake, heavier yes but not fake.
My definition of a dissy was always a 14-16" barrel with rifle length sighting.
I never really thought of the gas system a defining feature of the concept.

 

[quaawaa]

Paul made a video analyzing the mass shooting in Indiana that was stopped by a good guy with a gun.

Spoiler: 480p Archive

 

[SinistralRifleman]

My rifle gas 16” barrels needed 0.110 gas ports to run reliably with full mass carriers and a carbine buffer.

With a low mass carrier it could be .100

 

[Mayer Amhole Rothschild]

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Hitting me right in the feels - my first AR (and gun) had a fixed carry handle with A1 sights. I'm definitely tempted to buy another from time to time.

Kyle invalidated so many people's arguments about how you HAVE to spend $5,000 on the most tricked-out AR possible, with the most bespoke German glass and only the finest ammunition and magazines. Dude did what he did with a $650 gun, $100 optic (that I don't even think he really used) and a couple of pmags, and probably whatever ammo was cheapest at Cabela's.

It's one thing to spend several thousand on a rifle over time (gradually adding accessories like a suppressor, optic, light and/or IR device) versus spending the same amount to get a LMT or KAC rifle alone. I never understood doing the latter unless you were a Cool Guy (tm) and wanted to clone your old setup (and also qualify for military discount). Seen too many people buy Gucci guns and gear yet neglect to put in any trigger time with them.