Freddie deBoer won't talk about trannys/bans all talk about trannies in his substack mailing list 'cause readers revolted against his pro tranny views

Copy and pasted from Freddie deBour's Substack mailing list from a couple of days back:




So Here's How It's Gonna Be

If you’re in the significant majority of readers who never reads the comments, feel free to skip this post. In fact do me a favor and skip it.

I should have known better, and would have, had I not used a failed freelancing piece as a post. Last Friday I decided to repurpose a piece I had written for another publication as a subscriber-only post, one about a certain type of political strategy Democrats should use to win elections. The editor I was pitching wasn’t interested in it, so I reworked it and shared it here for you all. I didn’t think much about the difference in venues. Perhaps for that reason, I didn’t contemplate the fact that referencing trans political issues, and my straightforwardly progressive perspective on them, would inflame a section of the commenting corps here. Sadly, that is the one issue on which I can always expect a vocal minority of commenters to dominate the conversation, to egg each other on into more and more extreme terms, and to do so in a way that inevitably creates an unwelcoming atmosphere for some readers. As I said earlier, I’ve had enough.

Here’s the one paragraph in that piece that references trans politics.
But the choice between winning elections and defending minority groups is a false one. The question is not whether to defend trans people, for example; we have a profound moral and political duty to do so. The question is how best to defend them. And here I would say that normie politics represents the best route forward. A normie trans politics emphasizes equal rights and dignity rather than academic conceptions of gender identity. Rather than constantly getting bogged down in abstract questions about the gender binary, which can sound extremist, Democrats should emphasize the shared humanity of trans people, their fundamentally mundane status as ordinary people who simply want to live and work and flourish while embodying their true gender identities. That demand, that we all recognize the equal dignity of a vulnerable set of people who want only to live their full and unapologetic lives, is both more important and an easier sell than achieving a significant public change in the understanding of sex categories. And indeed, that’s what conservatives want to debate, those abstractions, rather than the simple reality of trans life. Look at conservative activist Matt Walsh and his recent film What is a Woman?, which fixates relentlessly on abstract definitional questions in the hopes that doing so will obscure the faces of the trans people who are asking us for safety and dignity.
This is, indeed, what I believe. It’s an argument that the best political strategy for protecting trans people and ensuring their equal rights and safety is to assert their shared humanity, and further that getting bogged down in abstract questions about gender identity plays into the hands of conservatives. Could be wrong. But it’s an argument about how best to serve trans people’s interests, a sincere one.

My first frustration is that, as has happened in the past, this one paragraph dominated discussion when it was only a single example in a piece arguing about much broader political questions. Proportionality matters. That paragraph amounts to about a tenth of the total words in the essay, and yet it generated a large majority of the comments. Along with previous such episodes, this can’t help but make trans readers feel like the commenting space is filled with obsessives. And for me personally, it’s just frustrating to write something about broad issues of political philosophy only to find that a particular illustrative example has eaten the conversation.

Second, there was a good deal of simple, straightforward transphobia in that thread, contrary to complaints. If you think I’m going to allow people to say things like “women’s prisons are an all-you-can-rape buffet for transwomen” in my space, you’re out of your goddamn mind. And what really bothers me is not just that people said such things but that nobody flagged any of it. Not one flag. Please feel free to email me and let me know if you used the flag function and it didn’t work; I doubt it, as it has worked in the past. I have told you repeatedly that my preference is for you to self-police. Perhaps that was asking too much.

There were of course also perceptive and respectful comments, about trans people or other elements of the essay, and it pains me that I have found it necessary to temporarily turn off comments for them too. I fully recognize that there are live debates in our political culture about transwomen participating in women’s sports, about the appropriate age for medical transition, and about traditionally (cisgender) women-only spaces like bathrooms. And my preference would be to allow for respectful, not-hateful arguments of that type to be permitted around here. But the issue (and it really is a dedicated minority) is that over and over again those legitimate political claims attract genuinely hateful comments, and this tendency has grown too obvious and frequent for me to ignore. This problem, it’s clear, requires a heavy hand.

So here’s the deal: I am not going to discuss trans issues in this space, and you in turn are not going to be wedging your fixation on trans issues into the conversation here. I will be relying on members of this community to flag comments or email me when this rule is broken. The reflexive “here’s why this is really about trans people” move people do around here is going to end, and I will use the tools available to me to make that happen. The first time you violate this rule you’ll be banned for 24 hours. The second time you’ll be banned for life. It’s terribly depressing to me that I have to simply declare that this newsletter will consider this issue off-limits, but my repeated attempts to keep the conversation open while maintaining a basic level of friendliness to people in a small and vulnerable minority have failed. So that topic is off-limits here. Rather than writing about it and then demanding that you not engage on that topic in a way that I don’t like, we will communally avoid it. This decision of mine is not subject to democratic review. My word here is law.

It’s simple to flag a comment for my review, just click the three dots under a comment and then click the Report comment button. Email me if you prefer.
Comments come in by the hundreds and at all hours of the day; I couldn’t moderate them all myself if I wanted to, and I don’t want to. I would like to pay someone to handle that task, but I would feel compelled by principle to pay at least $25/hour, and again this task is an all-day thing so I don’t know how that would work. We’re slowly saving up for a downpayment on a house, and I just can’t figure out a way that a paid moderator would work. So I’m going to be keeping more of an eye on comments myself for now, and I ask readers who feel that comments are off-topic and/or transphobic to be aggressive with flagging. The person you flag will never know that they were flagged, and certainly not by you, and of course flagging does not necessarily mean I will ban anybody. The stakes are low, so err on the side of flagging if it’s in your nature to do so, and I will ensure that this space remains welcoming.

The good news is that, if you’re a paying subscriber who finds this decision offensive, you have a practical means with which to voice your displeasure, by canceling your subscription. I think this is an underrated element of paid newsletters, that the readers have muscle. You can use your market power to demonstrate your displeasure with my decision here. I do ask that you not email me to cancel your subscription - it’s far easier for you to do so on your end than for me to dig around in the database and do it for you, and anyway you can spare me the theatrics. I will see the line go down if enough of you decide to quit. I’m unconcerned with who individually is unsubscribing. Here are instructions for how to do so.

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Look, this is lose, lose, lose, lose for me. Critics of me and of Substack will have an absolute field day with the fact that I feel I have to do this (fuck you too Twitter), IDW and conservative types will go after me for censorship, it won’t be good for the newsletter’s growth, and it amounts to the kind of restriction on my writing that I’ve always fought hard against. But this is how it’s got to be. I could give you all a big explanation of how my newsletter’s comments are not an open forum or platform; I certainly would not like it if Substack or Twitter or YouTube banned people for the same things that I am prepared to ban people for. I could talk about balancing free expression with my refusal to let any particular group of people feel like they’re being targeted here. I could point out that you have many other spaces where you can share your thoughts. Ultimately, I think the rules I’ve laid out speak for themselves. No, my comments section cannot be a safe space, as no space can be. But I’m tired of the same nasty conversation dominating my community here.

I was lucky to be raised in an environment in which LGBTQ people were common, including trans people; I have trans friends from academia and my writing career; I have trans comrades from housing activism; I in fact have a close family member who’s trans. But even if these things were not the case, I would not tolerate the atmosphere of exclusion that I allowed to build in my comments section through neglect. So I’m fixing it. Comments will return tomorrow. Now you know the rules. You are permitted to be disappointed or to take your attention and money elsewhere. But this is how it’s gonna be.​
TLDR: Freddie deBours thinks that the left/Democrats should go down with the ship fighting FOR trans rights and should double down on the "After the Ball" strategy of pushing sob stories about poor child raping, lesbian raping trannies to force people to endure their evil.

Comment section goes full red pill, especially on the issue of trannies raping/forcing lesbians to submit to non-consensual sex via terrorist threats of being called "transphobic", and Freddie's losing his mind and more to the point too fucking cheap to hire someone to be his substack column's comment section moderator. And since the comment section was so utterly against trannies and he doesn't want to lose that subscription money, he's decided to shame his readership for "forcing him to never talk about trans issues again" on his substack mailing list and threatening to ban anyone who talks about trannies as the devil spawn they are and their raping ways.
 
Freddie who?
An anti-woke leftist literal commie from South Africa. Has quite a bit of following with what's left of the old school liberal intelligentsia.
Mostly anti-woke because he's aware it's a massive circular firing-squad that threatens to destroy the decades worth of work of the march through the institutions because the petulant deranged brats who comprise the woke will manage to run institutions into the ground.
 
An anti-woke leftist literal commie from South Africa. Has quite a bit of following with what's left of the old school liberal intelligentsia.
Mostly anti-woke because he's aware it's a massive circular firing-squad that threatens to destroy the decades worth of work of the march through the institutions because the petulant deranged brats who comprise the woke will manage to run institutions into the ground.
But he's choosing to be just like those petulant brats for trannies?
 
But he's choosing to be just like those petulant brats for trannies?
Well, he *is* a leftist. Just one that is self-aware. At the level he used to reside in, troons are usually former alpha male autogynephiles like Richard Levine. They're nuts, but they're also hyper-competitive and competent in their areas of expertise and vindictive as fuck, they're not the flailing idiot lolcows we usually associate with the delusion. They're Genghis Khans with bolt-on tits. Pissing off the troon mafia will mean he'll never be let back into the good graces media-industrial-government complex.
 
But he's choosing to be just like those petulant brats for trannies?

To make a comparison from history, Freddie's like one of the German elite who thought they could control Hitler and the Nazis and use them to cement their control over Germany.

Except the trannies, like the Nazis, want nothing short of genocide of anyone they dislike and will destroy enablers like Freddie when Gotterdammerung comes for the trannie scum.
 
Looking this guy up and see he has a book arguing we must strive for equality of outcomes in education. I’m not sure how he could be viewed as anti woke when he drank the kool aid this deeply.

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Looking this guy up and see he has a book arguing we must strive for equality of outcomes in education. I’m not sure how he could be viewed as anti woke when he drank the kool aid this deeply.

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Actually quite the opposite. In the image you posted, he's stating heresy: "Since Cognitive talent varies from person to person...."
Current leftist orthodoxy strongly rejects that premise.
Why?
It's the camel's nose. Start conversations about IQ not being a complete blank slate, and you go down roads they fear to tread regarding race. Better to make it completely verboten to discuss, even if it means education remains fundamentally broken.
 
I love that DeBoer didn't bother considering the type of people who subscribe to his Substack. They're mostly heterodox leftists who have soured on the mainstream left for a number of reasons, but the most stark reason is tranny fascism.
Looking this guy up and see he has a book arguing we must strive for equality of outcomes in education. I’m not sure how he could be viewed as anti woke when he drank the kool aid this deeply.

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He's making the opposite argument of equality of outcome, that people have different levels of intelligence and talent, and it's unreasonable to insist on putting all kids on the college track.
 
No comments allowed on the article, had a nosey at his recent ones and one of them has the comments locked behind a paywall so I am guessing that is where the salt mines exploded.
From my own experience, one of the drawbacks of Substack if you want to troll people is that the page's author can paywall lock comments so that only paid subscribers can comment. Which is why he's had to fucking pledge never to talk about trannies again, since he was being trolled by his own fucking paypigs and he couldn't risk shit escalating worse as far as having to publicly renounce talking about trannies to justify his current "banning anyone who talks trash about trannies" by making the subject outright banned even on his side.
 
From my own experience, one of the drawbacks of Substack if you want to troll people is that the page's author can paywall lock comments so that only paid subscribers can comment. Which is why he's had to fucking pledge never to talk about trannies again, since he was being trolled by his own fucking paypigs and he couldn't risk shit escalating worse as far as having to publicly renounce talking about trannies to justify his current "banning anyone who talks trash about trannies" by making the subject outright banned even on his side.
He's really fucking dependent on his paypigs too. From what he wrote, he went from being one of those elite journalists able to make a good living in legacy highbrow printed media to being completely black-listed and on the brink of homelessness before his substack took off.

Why he has any desire to get back into the good graces of the people who would have him end up a stock-boy at Trader Joe's and living with roommates in a shitty apartment just because he wrote some books that were mildly heterodox is beyond me.
 
I read his article a month or so ago about Rapid Onset Dissociative Identity Disorder, and it was hilarious watching him be like, "But this doesn't apply to transgender theory, pls no bully."

I like his writing, but this is a huge blind spot. But it's explained by the fact that he "has a family member who is trans." So he is just not going to think about it anymore, even though his entire brand is thinking things through.
 
This chap appears to unironically refer to himself as a Marxist... I probably don't need to elaborate on why this invalidates every opinion he may express about economics, although conversely I would have a lot of time for any essays he pens about mass murder.

Thank you for bringing this person's substack to my attention. The Left's current desperate attempts at backpedalling away from CRT are endlessly amusing, and it's assholes like this they push to the front of the stage now. As we can see, it's all smoke and mirrors: there is no moderate way to hate white people, no half measures of incel-tier ideological degredation of heterosexual women, and there is no meeting in the middle where the complete destruction of civilisation is concerned.

It's too late now to pretend they were just being retarded, and their unrepentant pro-tranny rapist insanity is the shit sugar substitute glazing on their ideological puke cake.
 
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