Wuhan Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread 2: Booster Shot - Resume all Corona sperging here.

[autistic dog]

New fact check just dropped about this graph. Turns out the numbers are entirely true. The fact check says that since 96% of England is vaccinated this merely indicated the vaccine does not reduce death like they claimed not that its causing extra deaths.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2Z10I3

 

[Puff]

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New fact check just dropped about this graph. Turns out the numbers are entirely true. The fact check says that since 96% of England is vaccinated this merely indicated the vaccine does not reduce death like they claimed not that its causing extra deaths.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2Z10I3

The real crux of this graph is going to be what's the rate of triple vaxed compared to vaxed. Also are the maxxxxxed included in the vaxed bar?

 

[That_Guy]

I've got the # of unvaxed deaths should be at 354 if vax rate (any) is 96% and it did nothing either way. And this is 19% off that. Someone want to double-check my math? Really want to be wrong here. 19% of the vaccinated columns is an unpleasantly large number.

 

[Protistology]

I live in the U.S. and I was saved from the forced jab mandate by the Supreme Court decision last year. Before the decision had come down, I sent a religous exemption declaration to my HR department through email. I never received a response other than "we got this from you, thanks" and figured that was due to the court's decision.

But now I'm contemplating sending a follow up email requesting a decision from my company. I really want to insulate myself from any future fuckery since elections are coming up and I fully expect the government to go full retard when flu season starts back up.

I don't dare ask anyone at work about this as there are quite a few fauci acolytes hovering around the water fountain at all times.

Any advice would be greatly appreicated.

Edit: I should add: it's the risk of them saying 'no' that I'm worried about. No one talks about the jab any more at the office.

If your exception was assumed approved I wouldn't remind them so they can recheck the exception.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I don't know if it could be related to the vaxx but one debate moderator in the UK had collapsed live.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

I don't know if it could be related to the vaxx but one debate moderator in the UK had collapsed live.

Anotha one

 

[NOT a Loaded Gun]

If your exception was assumed approved I wouldn't remind them so they can recheck the exception.

After thinking about it, I believe you are 100% correct. I'm just going to assume it was approved and go about things that way. Thanks

 

[Protistology]

After thinking about it, I believe you are 100% correct. I'm just going to assume it was approved and go about things that way. Thanks

If they bring it up by themselves, tell them in writing: "After you confirmed receipt, I received no further communication on this issue from anyone, therefore it was my understanding my exception was approved."

 

[borsabil]

I've got the # of unvaxed deaths should be at 354 if vax rate (any) is 96% and it did nothing either way. And this is 19% off that. Someone want to double-check my math? Really want to be wrong here. 19% of the vaccinated columns is an unpleasantly large number.

Here's a link to the data

Deaths by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics

Weekly age-standardised mortality rates and age-specific rates for deaths involving COVID-19 and all deaths by vaccination status. This updated dataset also includes a comparison of populations and counts of deaths in different sources that can be used to calculate the rates.

www.ons.gov.uk

Table 4 rows 752 to 769

"Ever vaccinated" refers to everyone who's had at least one jab. The other definitions speak for themselves

There were 2578 Covid deaths in April and May 2022 of which 141 were among the unvaccinated, 5.5% helpfully rounded up to 6%.

It could be that whoever made the graph fucked up the dates ( I can't be arsed to check) but the overall percentages are correct.


If we're trying to work out whether or not the vaccines are effective at preventing deaths we have to look at the overall rate of vaccination in the UK and compare.

45 million people in England have received at least one dose of vaccine, 42 million have received 2 doses and 33 million have had at least 1 booster.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/

So approx 75% of those eligible have received at least 2 doses of Covid vaccine. There is a great deal of doubt regarding these numbers but we'll assume they're correct.


We know that the overwhelming majority of deaths from Covid are in the over 50 demographic, so we have to smooth the data to account for age differentials.

21.3 million over 50's have been vaccinated which equates to 93% of over 50's in England.

So putting the best possible spin on these numbers the vaccines are entirely useless at preventing death

None of this should be surprising, the unvaccinated were always going to be a reducing target for the virus given the (at least until recently) well known thing called natural immunity.

BTW 93% of all deaths are among the boosted, which again confirms that the vaccination campaign as being an utterly pointless folly.

 

[borsabil]

Blink and you'll miss it

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/27/almost-50-of-australians-had-a-recent-covid-infection-in-mid-june-blood-donor-survey-suggests

Almost half of all Australian adults had been infected with the Covid-19 virus between January and June this year, with many of those infected in the last three months, according to a national report.

The finding comes from a serosurvey of antibodies to the virus detected in blood donations, conducted at the Kirby Institute and the National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance (NCIRS).


Researchers examined 5,139 blood donations received from adults between 9 June and 18 June for anti-nucleocapsid protein antibodies, which indicate a recent infection. They also looked for anti-spike protein antibodies, which indicate immunisation.

Corresponds to the data reported in the UK, Younger age groups, with lower vaccination rates, report much higher N-protein prevalence.

But here's the good part.

“In the case of anti-nucleocapsid protein antibodies, they’re produced at lower levels than other antibodies, and they wane faster in people who are infected after they’ve been vaccinated, compared to people who are unvaccinated who then become infected,” she said.

They're now beginning to outright admit that OAS is happening.

N-protein antibodies do not "wane faster" than other antibodies. If the vaccine spike antibodies are persistent in the jabbed why aren't these ones?

Why are they waning faster in the vaccinated compared to the unvaxxed?

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I guess the reason "face masks" are a thing is because too many were fearmongered into thinking the coof is a deadly superplague by the propaganda-filled MSM and "influencers" on "social media", and then grifted by said MSM and "influencers" into thinking that wearing a "face mask" keeps the coof away. Also wearing a "face mask" seems to have become a sign of conformity, obedience, and "virtue signalling" among the woke crowd. Muzzle mandates and "Mask Karens" then further reinforced muzzling up.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

I guess the reason "face masks" are a thing is because too many were fearmongered into thinking the coof is a deadly superplague by the propaganda-filled MSM and "influencers" on "social media", and then grifted by said MSM and "influencers" into thinking that wearing a "face mask" keeps the coof away. Also wearing a "face mask" seems to have become a sign of conformity, obedience, and "virtue signalling" among the woke crowd. Muzzle mandates and "Mask Karens" then further reinforced muzzling up.

The cuckmuzzle has become a religious symbol for Covidians. It is to them what wearing a crucifix around your neck is for Christians.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The cuckmuzzle has become a religious symbol for Covidians.

And that wasn't even a thing in 2019. Just a year at most was all it took to become a thing.

 

[Mr Bunny]

It takes 30-40 days to make or break a habit.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Dumb question but is anyone else getting annoyed at setting people in masks? I got some at my work and i know they are all vaxxed maxed but they still insist on wearing masks all day, even though it's not required.

I know it's their choice and whatever but i just can't help but think how dumb it is at this point.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Long Covid is in reality vaccine side effects but normies are far too dense/prideful to admit this. I'm not a medical doctor but my normie vaxx maxed co workers that complain about long Covid have all described symptoms of myocarditis and organ/nerve damage.

you seem pretty nonchalant for someone that just said they expect their co workers to die within 5 years.

The video I linked to in that other post mentions that since the scamdemic started, speech therapy for kids under 5 has increased to 1 in 5 from 5% (IIRC), because little kids learn to talk by reading lips. Of course muzzling up all the time can interfere with it.

Not to mention any other crucial developments of early childhood that involve seeing faces. And can you imagine the psychological impact of muzzling up all the time will have on babies growing up during this insanity? Like they could think it's somehow normal or necessary to muzzle up, despite that crap being absent from the last several eons or so of the history of the species before 2020?

on the flip side maybe this decreases our over reliance on people needing a great voice to succeed; when everyone talks like a cartoon character we'll just drown it out, the same way a bunch of people don't see facial features in races but only skin color.

My vaxxmaxxed ex-husband now has COVID for the second time. When I finished laughing at him and read this, I got a little worried. He had the coof for the first time last winter and had a pretty easy time of it--not many symptoms, just had to stay home for 5 days because of The Rules. It wasn't a big deal. However, this time he is a good deal sicker, which seems like it shouldn't be if we have a virus that is becoming more transmissible and less deadly. (I am a pureblood and have also had the coof twice. The first time, during delta, was moderately miserable; the second time, during omicron, was just a whole lot of fatigue.)

So what you're saying about things getting worse with the boosters and the vaxxed people's immune systems is plausible according to my anecdata.

In other news that is somewhat less close to a PL, the SNCF (national train system in France) reinstated the mask mandate for its employees a month or so ago. And the mandate is not limited to the folks who work on the trains or customer service and have public contact--office workers are being forced back into the muzzle. (No media source--this comes from the mouth of one of said office workers.)

if you've been following you can catch the vax from fucking your husband. so presumably you're just as vaxxed as he is.

And that wasn't even a thing in 2019. Just a year at most was all it took to become a thing.

to be fair, a lot of kooks were wearing it pre-covid. those and asians. plus doctors and other groups all have to use it, and a lot of people in construction.

just because it wasn't normalized to everyone, everywhere doesn't mean it wasn't a growing trend. Toronto was full of face masks back in the 2019 flu season.

 

[Shaka Brah]

you seem pretty nonchalant for someone that just said they expect their co workers to die within 5 years.

If they have severe enough heart damage to be noticeable in their daily lives then at that point it's beyond your power to do anything. No use worrying about things you can't effect the outcome of.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

No use worrying about things you can't effect the outcome of.

I think this is one of the many reasons things are the way they are.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I think this is one of the many reasons things are the way they are.

It's more that the average person doesn't know what they can influence and what they can't. Heart damage can't be fixed by well-wishes, but you might be able to convince those people (eventually) to sue the people responsible or campaign for recognition of their injuries. The social tide is turning with more governments admitting that the vax has a high rate of severe side effects so that is possible in time.

You have to pick your battles and arguing with NPCs is not a battle you can win. Plus worrying about the health of people who didn't listen to common sense is going to drive you nuts. There's no reason to be angry that they hurt themselves when you can use that energy in more productive ways.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Dumb question but is anyone else getting annoyed at [seeing] people in masks?

Since day 1 of coronapanic back in 2020?