Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

How to deal with cancel culture:
Step 1) Stop showing your whole ass to the world online and doing the stupidest shit imaginable.

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Fits in with my general philosophy on life: Live your life in such a way that wouldn't get you a thread on KiwiFarms.
There's a super-secret alternate method, pioneered by our Internet forefathers: keep your shitposting contained to an anonymous and unconnected identity and don't try to make any money off it. They can't cancel you if you're got nothing to lose and/or they don't know who you are.

Seriously, opsec was Internet 101 back when I got my first dial-up modem.
 
There's a super-secret alternate method, pioneered by our Internet forefathers: keep your shitposting contained to an anonymous and unconnected identity and don't try to make any money off it. They can't cancel you if you're got nothing to lose and/or they don't know who you are.

Seriously, opsec was Internet 101 back when I got my first dial-up modem.
The big problem with IRL communities is that people who interact with the wrong kind don't have that choice, because (for the most part) it's not shitposting that gets you, it's just not being up to date on the latest programming. An average boomer or Gen Xer isn't gonna know how not to offend one of the local rabble-rousers if they decide they want to be offended, and people do need a little coaching on how to react properly rather than being bullied.

For your average mildly centrist or right-wing furry artist, who's probably a bit autistic and may rely on this for their primary income, there is a basic level of PR competency you need to ignore cancellation attempts and keep from chumming the water by apologizing. A seminar on that by people who have survived with their careers intact would actually impart some useful information.
 
I know this is KF but I'd like to srs the fuck up a little on this one
He had real addiction issues 5 years ago where he weaned himself off of booze
I was under the impression that we want lolcows to stop producing milk and become upstanding members of society
You're dealing with the 'trash the cow no matter what they do' mentality.

I mean we've just spent the last few pages basically supporting cancel culture and online censorship because the people against it are the ones we're making fun of. Which is absolutely true, negraters, and yet is a fascinating take for Kiwi fuckin' Farms.

2's a cow and pretty slimy to boot, but good on him if he was able to get himself off the sauce.
 
The big problem with IRL communities is that people who interact with the wrong kind don't have that choice, because (for the most part) it's not shitposting that gets you, it's just not being up to date on the latest programming. An average boomer or Gen Xer isn't gonna know how not to offend one of the local rabble-rousers if they decide they want to be offended, and people do need a little coaching on how to react properly rather than being bullied.
Are these people that socially inept that they don't understand the fact that the group they're trying to be friends with would hate their guts if they knew their opinions?

Actually, nevermind. Dumb question. Being able to read the room (or just spend five minutes watching the crowd) and shut up is a lost art these days.

For your average mildly centrist or right-wing furry artist, who's probably a bit autistic and may rely on this for their primary income, there is a basic level of PR competency you need to ignore cancellation attempts and keep from chumming the water by apologizing. A seminar on that by people who have survived with their careers intact would actually impart some useful information.
That would be laudable if it was the content of the panel. I don't think it is, though. My prediction is that it's going to be a full hour bitching about twitter. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, of course.

You're dealing with the 'trash the cow no matter what they do' mentality.

I mean we've just spent the last few pages basically supporting cancel culture and online censorship because the people against it are the ones we're making fun of. Which is absolutely true, negraters, and yet is a fascinating take for Kiwi fuckin' Farms.

2's a cow and pretty slimy to boot, but good on him if he was able to get himself off the sauce.
Speak for yourself, I'm hoping this goes without a hitch because the outcome of that would be far more hilarious than just yet-another-new-furcon-going-up-in-flames. But regardless of how well it runs, I'm sure there will be plenty of silly and/or cringe moments to make fun of. Because furries just do that.

As for a cow improving themselves? Fine by me. Even if they fully redeem themselves and their thread dies, it's not like we'll ever run out of lolcows to make fun of. For every one that leaves the pasture, ten more shall take their place.
 
Speak for yourself, I'm hoping this goes without a hitch because the outcome of that would be far more hilarious than just yet-another-new-furcon-going-up-in-flames. But regardless of how well it runs, I'm sure there will be plenty of silly and/or cringe moments to make fun of. Because furries just do that.
I don't think I said anything about this going off badly. I kind of hope it goes off great for the reeing we'll hear, as well as the "NOOO IT WAS A FAIIIILURE" cope.
 
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Are these people that socially inept that they don't understand the fact that the group they're trying to be friends with would hate their guts if they knew their opinions?

Actually, nevermind. Dumb question. Being able to read the room (or just spend five minutes watching the crowd) and shut up is a lost art these days.
Most people just don't understand that the cultural rug was pulled out from under them.
 
Nerf guns are fun though, if we're being honest.
Nerf Gun/Foam dart gun modding is popular with anyone 60/50 and under. Paintball and airsoft are the more painful, tactical predecessors. It's the fun of guns and miltary larping where you get to actually shoot each other. It's actually a pretty healthy, active, skill-based hobby. Lots of young men and women learning accuracy, teamwork, mental focus, getting mentored. For the older folks, staying in shape mentally and physically alongside nostalgia or the ability to bond with their children. It's also very family friendly, can be turned into actual competitions, or just done in a field behind someone's house. Nerf has the bonus of being able to be done inside a house, garage, or just in a driveway/street.
Fair enough. When you explain it like this I'll admit it does seem like something that could be fun, I've just never seen it have an entire dedicated room at a convention before.

He had real addiction issues 5 years ago where he weaned himself off of booze
Honestly, had no idea this was even a thing. 2 fell out of general relevancy in the fandom well before 5 years ago, so I had never heard of this. If he's genuinely been sober for 5 years now, good for him.
 
This is why I cringe at groups like this. Not because they're right wing, not because they're "LITERAL NAZIS!!!11!1!" but because they spend so much time whining about how politics has infiltrated their fandom and how much they hate it, and they can't enjoy it as escapism anymore, but the moment they actually get what they want, their own space away from the mainstream political bent of the fandom, what do they do? Bring politics right back into it and bitch about cancel culture instead of trying to enjoy the event they supposedly worked so hard to make independent from the rest of their fandom. You're right it's not "return to escapism" for them, but I think you're a little off the mark on it being free speech either. Freer than the mainstream fandom in some aspects, absolutely, but you bet they would freak out if someone disagreed with their Furry Raider larp "politics" (if you can even call that politics). They only hate politics when it's not theirs that gets blasted from the rooftops. Everything is culture war, all the time.
Actually, I think the furfags have a point here. It's obvious that the rest of the furries have infected their hobby with social justice ACAB leftypol larper bullshit. It's also obvious that those people make up the majority of furries- if you ran a pure escapism con, the politispergs would come and outnumber the people who just want to have fun (or, seeing as these are furries, nonpolitically jizz on a bipartisan pizza). Therefore, there has to be some kind of deterrent to keep the majority out. I think that what we've seen of how everyone else is reacting to "fashcon" thus far indicates that the people running this con have been largely successful in providing that deterrent. Of course, this isn't to say that their politics aren't cringe and gay as well, but they're cringe in the way that chemotherapy is uncomfortable- sure it is, but not compared to Stage 4 cancer.
 
Yet another convention is being called out for "transphobia". This time it's Denfur, which is now accused because they are allowing a "Nazi" to be in the con's Telegram channel. What did this person say to be considered fascist scum? They pointed out that some MtFs don't try to pass as women and dress like men, then get angry when they are referred to with male pronouns. There's probably more to it, but nothing else has been posted showing the alleged harassment.

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Instead, Denfur banned the trans person from the Telegram chat when they made the absolutely braindead statement that calling police on trans people is a "death threat", because as we all know, police in the US simply murder trans people on sight.

Of course, the person screaming "transphobia" isn't showing the full context. Apparently this is all drama over popufur MtF Sparx, and what lead up to this isn't being posted. Sparx quit his job and the "Nazi" wants to... call the police over it? I guess? I'm sure there's plenty being left out.

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People are now dogpiling (haha) the convention's Twitter, bitching about "safety" and "nazifurs".

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Of course, the person screaming "transphobia" isn't showing the full context. Apparently this is all drama over popufur MtF Sparx, and what lead up to this isn't being posted. Sparx quit his job and the "Nazi" wants to... call the police over it? I guess? I'm sure there's plenty being left out.
I can't even follow the fuckin' screenshots without your elaboration, but just screaming 'transphobia' is all that's needed rather than any actual support to that claim

Wouldn't be the first time something Sparx related lead to calling a con transphobic for not removing someone from a Telegram group, such as when Sparx crusaded against a trans-led trans-staffed trans-attended event raising money for a trans charity for transphobia
 
Yet another convention is being called out for "transphobia". This time it's Denfur, which is now accused because they are allowing a "Nazi" to be in the con's Telegram channel. What did this person say to be considered fascist scum? They pointed out that some MtFs don't try to pass as women and dress like men, then get angry when they are referred to with male pronouns. There's probably more to it, but nothing else has been posted showing the alleged harassment.

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Instead, Denfur banned the trans person from the Telegram chat when they made the absolutely braindead statement that calling police on trans people is a "death threat", because as we all know, police in the US simply murder trans people on sight.

Of course, the person screaming "transphobia" isn't showing the full context. Apparently this is all drama over popufur MtF Sparx, and what lead up to this isn't being posted. Sparx quit his job and the "Nazi" wants to... call the police over it? I guess? I'm sure there's plenty being left out.

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People are now dogpiling (haha) the convention's Twitter, bitching about "safety" and "nazifurs".

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Safety is such a joke for these people. By safety they don't want people they dislike coming to the conventions and get off on shutting out people.

Honestly if people complain about transphobia chances are it's bullshit.
 
There's a super-secret alternate method, pioneered by our Internet forefathers: keep your shitposting contained to an anonymous and unconnected identity and don't try to make any money off it. They can't cancel you if you're got nothing to lose and/or they don't know who you are.

Seriously, opsec was Internet 101 back when I got my first dial-up modem.
None of my friends from this era of internet even know what opsec is, which is sad cause it's pretty important to me, but on the upside it makes normies that much easier to dox

Of course, the person screaming "transphobia" isn't showing the full context. Apparently this is all drama over popufur MtF Sparx, and what lead up to this isn't being posted. Sparx quit his job and the "Nazi" wants to... call the police over it? I guess? I'm sure there's plenty being left out.
Has there ever been an instance of a trans person getting mowed down by cops? It always feels like a black person larp when they talk about stuff like this (black trans lives matter etc)
 
None of my friends from this era of internet even know what opsec is, which is sad cause it's pretty important to me, but on the upside it makes normies that much easier to dox
And when an adversary practices good OPSEC, often their partner does not.

So always remember to check the social media of the cow's fuckbuddy. Dox can often be had from such a source.
 
Posting threats of imminent violence on social media seems like a bad idea for prospective con attendees.
Yes for normal folk but as you can see he has the troon flag and is likely a troon, therefore he is above the rules many others are subject to. Examples being narcissa threatening to shoot employees, keffals being unbanned by troons in the ranks, and many others.
 
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