US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

So basically, they're going to, on average, task more people to collect these conscripts. Conscripts who may have opinions of their own on the matter.

I mean, this is amazingly bad math. They're not going to get these conscripts -- well, I'll compromise. They may get a few. Then the lucky 'collection teams' will get intercepted and escorted to the state border. The unlucky ones will join the 'revenooers' of a century ago in a backwoods quarry.

All of this conscription debate talk over speculation that China wants to attack that plane. I highly doubt they will if Pelosi or any other swamp rat with CCP ties is on it; they're not going to off one of their puppets.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

I'm keeping it the way I said it, it's funnier that way.

Hey, I never said it was a good idea.

I know. I had to explain to someone recently that the reason some of these fuckers are pushing these ideas is because they're straight up sociopathic morons. It's very hard to wrap one's mind around that headspace if you have more than three firing neurons and a moral compass that works half the time.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

All of this conscription debate talk over speculation that China wants to attack that plane. I highly doubt they will if Pelosi or any other swamp rat with CCP ties is on it; they're not going to off one of their puppets.

Its a fairly empty threat. There's no reason for China to open any Taiwan conflict by killing a high level US State official - Any sane invasion plan would hinge on the hope that the US Government takes some time to decide if it really wants to get involved in a land war in Asia before sending assistance, but killing a government official in a third party nation (I would bet anything that they'd recognize Taiwan as the legitimate government if they did something this stupid) soil would be a guaranteed US retaliation. There's been US Carrier groups in the region playing the usual maneuvering and interdiction games with a couple chinese counterparts (Who are outmatched and outnumbered in the region) and I could see the US basically going "Well if your gonna kill us with your force projection, we'll sink the force projection".

As much as China would be doing the US a favor, you'd have better odds of DSP admitting to bankruptcy fraud and his gacha gambling addition live on stream repeatedly with no weasel words or excuses.

 

[soy_king]

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So. Trump is suing CNN for defamation against him, and apparently is planning to sue other media outlets for defamation against him + "defrauding the public" by ignoring evidence of voter fraud in 2020.

Lots to unpack here. On the one hand, he'll get plenty of free media coverage about it, and since almost everyone hates the media anymore, he's suddenly the plucky underdog going up against the evil empire. On the other hand, this might completely hobble the media's ability to report on him for the next few years, especially if said media outlets have legal teams.

He also gets to re-litigate (or rather, finally gets to make the case in court) that the 2020 election was rigged, in a slightly lower stakes situation (and with less dark money going to judges to ensure he didn't get his day in court). Should be interesting.

this will probably be dismissed, not because they didn't commit defamation, but because as a public figure the bar is so high that absent some evidence of knowing falsehood presented in the complaint, any lefty judge will exploit the hell out of Twiqbal.

Tillis actually responded. This part in particular:

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Oh look, another RINO faggot. Thanks for letting me know where you stand, Thom. I will gladly enjoy kicking your ass out when the time comes (2027).

Honestly, I can't hate Tillis, just because he's actually trying to fix the mess that is our Patent and IP law. Plus, NC is so purple now that I can't even stomach the thought of there being another "blue dog" Clintonite in Congress.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

this will probably be dismissed, not because they didn't commit defamation, but because as a public figure the bar is so high that absent some evidence of knowing falsehood presented in the complaint, any lefty judge will exploit the hell out of Twiqbal.

Thomas wants to change the rules though right? Its what 4 judges who have to sign on? Trump would appeal to the Supreme Court, who could change the rules and then it goes to trial under the new guidance.

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

When do you think Basement Biden will come out of the basement? Pussy Powell raised the Fed rate another .75 percent and the GDP numbers will come out tomorrow and likely be negative. That seems to me like he's going to take a long weekend. If we're not seeing him doddering in public by next Wednesay, that's panic time.

 

[Lards and Lasses]

Letting a spic get elected to office in Texas is like leaving a fox to guard the henhouse.

You're fucking retarded if you do it and you deserve what's coming to you. Too bad the rest of the country will pay equally for your idiocy.

 

[soy_king]

Thomas wants to change the rules though right? Its what 4 judges who have to sign on? Trump would appeal to the Supreme Court, who could change the rules and then it goes to trial under the new guidance.

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/will-the-supreme-court-reconsider-a-landmark-defamation-case

It's from the ultra-liberal ABA, so take it with a grain of salt, but it looks like this is a charge led mostly by Thomas and Gorsuch. There's generally no guarantee with Thomas that his opinions will be adopted. He's so inflexible with his originalism that a lot of times the other conservative justices refuse to follow him. If something like this comes forward, I can see ACB and Kavanaugh cucking just to avoid accusations of bias.

 

[TheGreatDodongus]

I don't think there's much doubt at this point that he's not going to make it to '24. At the very least, he'll have deteriorated so badly by then that it will no longer be possible to pretend otherwise, even for the most determined DNC bootlickers. He might already be at that stage, for all we know. I still maintain that he isn't out of action due to Covid, but as a panic move by his handlers who are desperately trying to figure out what to do in the aftermath of several disastrous public appearances occurring in quick succession.

So the question becomes: When do they pull him? Doing so before the midterms isn't an option, barring the aforementioned scenario that he's simply too far gone to make public appearances anymore, in which case their hands might be forced. But when?

 

[AnotherPleb]

I don't think there's much doubt at this point that he's not going to make it to '24. At the very least, he'll have deteriorated so badly by then that it will no longer be possible to pretend otherwise, even for the most determined DNC bootlickers. He might already be at that stage, for all we know. I still maintain that he isn't out of action due to Covid, but as a panic move by his handlers who are desperately trying to figure out what to do in the aftermath of several disastrous public appearances occurring in quick succession.

So the question becomes: When do they pull him? Doing so before the midterms isn't an option, barring the aforementioned scenario that he's simply too far gone to make public appearances any more, in which case their hand might be forced. But when?

They bide their time until after midterms, and if they stop the red tide they drop him then. If not? Body doubles until 2024.

 

[Gehenna]

They bide their time until after midterms, and if they stop the red tide they drop him then. If not? Body doubles until 2024.

Counter, there are enough opposing forces duking it out right now and basically all of them gain from throwing Biden buswards. The only reason they have not is because each wishes to be the one to gain the most out of this. There is no unified effort to do a body double situation.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Counter, there are enough opposing forces duking it out right now and basically all of them gain from throwing Biden buswards. The only reason they have not is because each wishes to be the one to gain the most out of this. There is no unified effort to do a body double situation.

Ah, so it's a mexican standoff.

 

[Vaclav]

Counter, there are enough opposing forces duking it out right now and basically all of them gain from throwing Biden buswards. The only reason they have not is because each wishes to be the one to gain the most out of this. There is no unified effort to do a body double situation.

So a body double would require the feuding Dem factions to each agree that they had more to gain by keeping the Biden show running than by ditching him?

Also, here's another thought. The Democrat presidential bench is looking pretty bad... is there anything they could offer Michelle Obama to run? She'd probably be their best chance with maximum nostalgia value and impeccable progressive stack credentials. The only problem is she's said she wants nothing to do with the presidency anymore... could they make her an offer sweet enough to change her mind? If they skip nominating Kamala Harris for Gavin Newsom the accusations of racism will be flying thick. Putting Michelle up could prevent that.

 

[northstar747]

Counter, there are enough opposing forces duking it out right now and basically all of them gain from throwing Biden buswards. The only reason they have not is because each wishes to be the one to gain the most out of this. There is no unified effort to do a body double situation.

So no "weekend at Bidens"?

also how much power do the prog faction have vs the clinton faction?

 

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Ah, so it's a mexican standoff.

The problem being, a mexican standoff only works if there's no outside influence.

The GOP isn't going to do anything to seriously threaten the Unparty -- that would be rude -- but, as stupid as it sounds... MAGA is coming.

 

[Gehenna]

I figure now is a good time to do a "Where are they at now?" post.

A while ago I did a breakdown of the five factions trying to dominate the Whitehouse, you can find it here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/joe-biden-news-megathread.69229/page-2587#post-9991667

So, how are each of them doing, and how has their gameplan shaped up?

1: The Cabal. Broken, shattered, and the civil war is a lot less quiet than it was. Various news rags going after Biden in constant salvos from all sides. Big Tech has all but abandoned it. The Establishment is now under heavy siege in the primaries. The Progs attempted to field their own candidates and were told to get fucked. Just... nothing going right as a unified group. All share Biden as a key target to take down but are actively interfering with each other's attempts lest it gives a faction an advantage over the others.

1A: The Establishment. What the fuck has gone -right- for the Establishment? As predicted in the original post, their attempt top ingratiate themselves back into the Uniparty have failed. I'd go so far as to say that the "uniparty" as an identifiable entity has ceased to be. All usual RINO support has been severely curtailed, leaving only two instances of it existing. The ascension of a SCOTUS judge... replacing a Democrat nominee and thus changing nothing about the SCOTUS makeup. And an "Anti-gun" bill that was rendered so useless that nobody has politically benefitted from it. Not even the RINOs. And they are getting no traction or aid on the January 6th show trial outside of Liz Cheney, a woman so politically stupid she thinks she could run for President. At this point the Democrat Establishment is being kept together by one person and one person only, and that is Nancy Pelosi. Her being forced to stay as the leader of the house alongside Ron Klein leaving the White House show a desperate attempt to keep this faction alive.

1B: The Progs. Desperate for attention. Still demanding a ton of voter support and without a doubt a massive power bloc in the Democrats... but also now shut off from even the semblance of aid from the wider Democrat machine. Quietly and barely reported on was multiple attempts by Prog faction leaders to set up primaries for Establishment members. They were, for the first time, hard shut down by the machine. This marks the first time this group hasn't been coddled and the appearance of aid not maintained. The faction is becoming a pressure cooker situation after the one-two punch of Roe and the general populace rejecting the trans shit. Would not take much at all for them to break out into open, and likely violent, revolt against everyone who isn't them. And as predicted, their aims are going towards which of the two big factions faltered most. Namely, the Establishment.

1C: Big Tech. I. Fucking. Called it. I predicted in a separate post that they'd big getting buddy buddy with the right to try to move on, while maintaining a publicly facing front that they still totally support the dems. Which is very much what Twitter is doing right about now. Isn't it fascinating how despite all the loud protestations against Musk buying them, they have done everything they can to get him to buy them. The latest kerfluffle being him trying to 'back out' over twitter not showing how many bot accounts they have... only for twitter to sue him to stay on, which will mean discovery, meaning he finds out how many bots they have.

It's a show. And I'd be damn surprised if Musk wasn't entirely in on it at this point. And oh look, at the same time Facebook/Meta is announcing brand new opportunities in totally unrelated areas.... while also not paying the Dems much anymore. And curious how a lot of their expansions are connected to high level Republican's tock portfolios. Big tech has decided that the Democrats are a losing proposition, and while they are maintaining a visible front of it all, they are making some rather large overtures to the right.

1D: The Moderates/Doomed. Yes, a fourth faction within the Cabal has formed. Or more specifically, the remnants of it. The few moderates who has stayed on due to it being their institution. Or Big Tech members who now find themselves persona non grata for their prior faction. Even a few Progs who were grifting all along and now need an out. They have banded together in a lose group and are just trying to extract themselves or make a name for themselves. Manchin is probably the most visible member of this group. And a lot of his actions are supported by the larger group which is why he is basically immune to the other factions trying to pressure him.

2: Kamala Harris. Quiet as a door mouse. Doing anything and everything she can to remain out of the limelight and constantly forced into it. Everything she was promised was a lie, now she has no way out of a living hell courtesy of the one person who still wants Biden in office. Harris is a non-entity at this point. She doesn't want her current role, she sure as shit doesn't want the presidency anymore, and if a black hole opened up beneath her feet and swallowed her whole... she'd be fine with that.

3: Jill Biden. The only person who wants Joe in office at this point. Outright puppeting him. Forced to be the face of things and managed to piss off every hispanic in the country. Desperately keeping him going and burning holy fuck tons of money doing it. She's staved off attacks from every angle against all expectations and I suspect I know how. You see, Jill is in a loveless marriage with a vegetable. There is only one situation where Biden leaves office and its a net negative for every faction. If he dies in office. Everything Trump said would be proven true, Harris becomes president and is -even more hated than Biden-, and no faction is in any position to use the chaos.

I think Jill is staying as the puppeteer by threatening to pull Biden's plug.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I am curious as to how they plan to get James from Nebraska to the front line when he spits on their shoes and refuses to go.

Standard policy is to beat James to the brink of death, put him in a jail cell, and torture the living shit out of him until he "kills himself" and is made a public example to cow middle americans into submission.

Also, here's another thought. The Democrat presidential bench is looking pretty bad... is there anything they could offer Michelle Obama to run? She'd probably be their best chance with maximum nostalgia value and impeccable progressive stack credentials. The only problem is she's said she wants nothing to do with the presidency anymore... could they make her an offer sweet enough to change her mind? If they skip nominating Kamala Harris for Gavin Newsom the accusations of racism will be flying thick. Putting Michelle up could prevent that.

I've mentioned this before: Michelle Obama is a shifty, lazy ass darkie who had a notorious reputation in Chicago as an affirmative action token for hire, who got work in Chicago basically by way of major white dominated needing a high profile token and the local race baiters sending a list of politically connected blacks to be given do nothing jobs where they read magazines and play on the internet all day while the white employees do their work and Michelle's work and have to STFU because criticizing her being a do nothing parasite drawing a paycheck for nothing would be seen as racist.

Also, Michelle came out of the experience of being First Lady a racist cunt who's hatred for white people went from "stupid ass crackers, I'm better than them!" snobbery to "Genocide those white fuckers! Kill them! Kill them all! " Hitler-esque hate mongering; to the point that, in a bit of self-awareness, she realized she couldn't fake it and hide her desire to final solution murder every white person in the US if she were to run for office as far as barely able to conceal her hatred for white men and women.

 

[Extreme Crusader]

Tillis actually responded. This part in particular:

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Oh look, another RINO faggot. Thanks for letting me know where you stand, Thom. I will gladly enjoy kicking your ass out when the time comes (2027).

I thought you knew this already? Ted Cruz has always been a cuck.

 

[ClackAlAcka]

With that logic, Hillary Clinton should sue Fox News among other outlets for outright slandering her good name.

Don't forget Bernie and the progressives too.

 

[The Last Stand]

I already see Big Tech regretting their investments in progressive policies, particularly the LGBTQ+ and BLM. Numbers don't lie; people are sick and tired of them being shoved in their faces. Remember when YouTube removed the like/dislike ratio some time ago to "curb toxicity?" That was to save face.

I'm no @Gehenna, but even in college circles, I'm seeing buyer's remorse with Biden and even peaceful assembly. It's there, but there's little energy anymore. Roe v. Wade was the explosion that is burning out any fuel to the fire if that makes any sense.

I see Big Tech as an unintentional reactive component in all this.