Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Freya]

Lila Grace Rose sounds like a dead baby name

 

[WinifredSanderson]

Body donation needs to be set up  prior to death. You can't just decide to ship Grandma off to an anatomy lab because cremation's too expensive.
You might need to look into what the body will be used for, exactly. Saying "for science" isn't very precise - the military likes having human bodies for weapons testing, and crash test cadavers exist, for example. Yes, it is important, how else do you know if your body armor is effective? Or the newest safety feature in your car? But that may or may not be what you or your family wants.
And, as previously mentioned, there are a lot of reasons to be refused. Don't count on your donation to pay for your funeral.

I read Stiff, Death's Acre and Smoke Gets in Your Eyes a few years back and I forget which one explained it, but essentially the vast majority of bodies donated for science go to teach plastic surgeons how to perform various procedures and it happens in like, weekend conferences in strip malls. I think a lot of folks think it's some noble thing but the reality is not so much.

 

[Breadbear]

Lila Grace Rose sounds like a dead baby name
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China was pretty cool with abortions during their 1-child policy, just saying.

 

[Any Fucker]

Is this in the US? Because there's no way that shit would be allowed anywhere in Bongland. Here you don't buy or own the land that a grave is on - you just buy an "Exclusive Right of Burial" in that small section for a limited number of interments for a limited amount of time (usually about 75 years) & you can't erect anything on it but an approved headstone/memorial.

I beg to differ...this bad boy is in a city near me
It includes remote cameras/ intercom so the family can talk to him, and a jukebox
The council said they didnt follow what was on the planning permission but did nothing about it

 

[Murder Bunny]

I beg to differ...this bad boy is in a city near me
It includes remote cameras/ intercom so the family can talk to him, and a jukebox
The council said they didnt follow what was on the planning permission but did nothing about itView attachment 3539193

Thank you. Sincerely. I've been having a moderately stressful day full of the kind of "problems" that anyone would rightly call me a spoiled brat for whining about and I *needed* this in my life.

My city's attitude toward most things is: "Is it a threat to anyone's life? Is it honestly impinging on anyone else's freedom or enjoyment of their own space or public amenities? Yes? We'll be right there! No? Try a nip of bourbon and a nap and see if you don't feel better about the whole thing. Have you considered taking up a hobby?" That's not to say things don't get done, but they are very clear about prioritization. If a citizen is annoyed but not in danger/unduly restricted then they'll have to get in line.

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

I read Stiff, Death's Acre and Smoke Gets in Your Eyes a few years back and I forget which one explained it, but essentially the vast majority of bodies donated for science go to teach plastic surgeons how to perform various procedures and it happens in like, weekend conferences in strip malls. I think a lot of folks think it's some noble thing but the reality is not so much.

To be fair, that's still useful!
And possibly better than the people that get used as crash test dummies to see how injuries in crashes look.

 

[booklover]

I read Stiff, Death's Acre and Smoke Gets in Your Eyes a few years back and I forget which one explained it, but essentially the vast majority of bodies donated for science go to teach plastic surgeons how to perform various procedures and it happens in like, weekend conferences in strip malls. I think a lot of folks think it's some noble thing but the reality is not so much.

Mary Roach's "Stiff" opens with this exact story! It's also possible that the rest of the body wasn't suitable for whole-body dissection, but the heads were fine, so there they went.

I highly recommend her latest book, "Fuzz." It's by far the most entertaining of hers to date.

 

[Melankia]

I have personally heard of a pathology lab receiving a misdelivered brain specimen from a patient with CJD. Specimen was supposed to go to a state Department of Health and somehow ended up in the lab of a podunk little hospital, which didn't even have pathology services. The clinical lab staff didn't know what to do with it and were intrigued, so they OPENED THE CONTAINER. Someone finally had the sense to read the fucking submission paperwork and realized it was a possible CJD specimen and not for them. That was around the time that they discovered they didn't have anything on hand that would disinfect prions*. Someone had to drive 3+ hours with a bunch of formic acid to help them decontaminate, and the entire incident was immediately hushed up. I never heard how the specimen not only got routed to the wrong place, but somehow ended up at a hospital without a pathology department, but the whole thing sounded like a goddamn clusterfuck.


*Prions are extremely resistant to conventional sterilization methods, including alcohol, ammonia, hydrogen peroxide, UV light, microwave, and heat, and are transmissible after formalin fixation. They can even survive autoclaving.

This reminds me of when we had a hippo die and they shipped it (in pieces) to a bone museum. Except it wasn’t labeled as a bio-hazard shipment, some motherfucker in the vet department literally packed up this carcass and sent it FedEx with no labeling/declaration and a look from the EHS dept.

thankfuly it just died of old age and no crazy brain disease.

 

[Crimewatcher 44]

Body donation needs to be set up  prior to death. You can't just decide to ship Grandma off to an anatomy lab because cremation's too expensive.
You might need to look into what the body will be used for, exactly. Saying "for science" isn't very precise - the military likes having human bodies for weapons testing, and crash test cadavers exist, for example. Yes, it is important, how else do you know if your body armor is effective? Or the newest safety feature in your car? But that may or may not be what you or your family wants.
And, as previously mentioned, there are a lot of reasons to be refused. Don't count on your donation to pay for your funeral.

I recommend anyone interested in body donation read Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers by Mary Roach. She explains how it works and gives a ton of info on what the donated bodies can be used for.

There was that story of the woman with the rare brain disorder that ended up being used for weapons testing instead of neurology study because the company that handled the bodies was shady.

7 part series, so it's long but very informative: The Body Trade (Use the drop down menu at the top to change parts)

 

[everybody in Portugal]

I beg to differ...this bad boy is in a city near me
It includes remote cameras/ intercom so the family can talk to him, and a jukebox
The council said they didnt follow what was on the planning permission but did nothing about itView attachment 3539193

I hate to sound like a classist fuckwit but that's clearly a traveller family grave and as such shouldn't be used as the yardstick to measure the average britbong's death rites by.

 

[Quack_Quack]

Careful, or we are going to put you in a gait trainer and drag you around the Kiwi Pavilion by your head. If you do a GOOD JAAAAAHB, you may have a breastmilk, calf liver, and pureed squash waterboarding, but I make no promises.

After the fucking Archie thread that made me lol. Thank you

Probably to learn more about the repetitive brain damage that is caused by conussions. From what I've read it has its own unique presentaiton rather sure they beleive it was why one of the wrestlers upped and murdered his family once.

Isn't CTE analogous to shaken baby syndrome damage but in adults? I mean it is basically repeated percussive concussions with little to no real recovery time and the total effects are sometimes similar to the bastard child of alzheimers and parkinsons with a dash of early onset dementia?

 

[booklover]

This reminds me of when we had a hippo die and they shipped it (in pieces) to a bone museum. Except it wasn’t labeled as a bio-hazard shipment, some motherfucker in the vet department literally packed up this carcass and sent it FedEx with no labeling/declaration and a look from the EHS dept.

thankfuly it just died of old age and no crazy brain disease.

Was this where they sent it? I heard about it when Mike Rowe went there in the 00s iteration of "Dirty Jobs", and a NatGeo program ABOUT HUMAN BODY DONATION went there too. The latter was about 10,000 times grosser than the "Dirty Jobs" episode.

Spoiler

Mike asked the owner how often a smell made him sick, and he said twice but he was already ill both times.

I recently heard about "a human heart found in the cargo hold of a plane" in Des Moines, where I have family. At first, I thought that somehow, a heart was just, like, left on the floor in the hold, but no, it had been shipped but IIRC hadn't been correctly packaged or labeled.

ETA: Oops, forgot to post a link!

https://www.skullsunlimited.com/

 

[Melankia]

https://www.skullsunlimited.com/

unfortunately no, I think it went to some company that prepares skeletons for museum display (like they specialize in large skeleton)

this was several years/jobs ago so details are very hazy.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

I read Stiff, Death's Acre and Smoke Gets in Your Eyes a few years back and I forget which one explained it, but essentially the vast majority of bodies donated for science go to teach plastic surgeons how to perform various procedures and it happens in like, weekend conferences in strip malls. I think a lot of folks think it's some noble thing but the reality is not so much.

I have Smoke Gets in Your Eyes in my "to be read pile" on my shelf. Can't watch her Youtube vids tho as something about her voice annoys me.

 

[booklover]

Skulls, Unlimited does vertebrate skeletons of all types, and I highly recommend all of Ms. Doughty's books too.

In fact, on "Dirty Jobs" day, Mike helped clean the bones of a whale that had washed up on a beach somewhere. They had been preliminarily defleshed at the location, and then shipped to Oklahoma City for preservation.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

And somewhat related to the discussion on body parts being mishandled in shipping or being sold for profit when the body was donated to science... the US has lax laws on selling humans remains. I am in several FB groups for selling weird things (usually animals for taxidermy or modified antique furniture or whatever) and about three times a month I will see human remains for sale there. Wallets made out of human skin, fetuses in jars, full skeletons. Like a car wreck, I can't look away.

 

[Resting Peach Face]

I beg to differ...this bad boy is in a city near me
It includes remote cameras/ intercom so the family can talk to him, and a jukebox
The council said they didnt follow what was on the planning permission but did nothing about itView attachment 3539193

Jesus! Travellers I presume? Technically the council could remove that monstrosity but are probably holding back for "cultural reasons" (and because they don't fancy the resultant aggro from thousands of Irish travellers camping out in the grounds). You just know that come summer weekends they are going to be there with their barbecues, beers and hundreds of feral kids, disturbing the peace and effectively preventing anyone else from visiting a loved one's grave in that cemetery.

 

[Any Fucker]

It's so extreme that you can't help but be impressed they had the balls. I believe there are 1 metre height restrictions on stones in the graveyard. Its likely nobody wants to put their name to a destruction order on it as they've openly threatened repercussions

I hate to sound like a classist fuckwit but that's clearly a traveller family grave and as such shouldn't be used as the yardstick to measure the average britbong's death rites by.

Yeah, funny though. They regularly have parties down there and there's been a lot of complaints, one person was told to remove little ornaments from her babies grave for "health & safety" then next visit saw this.

 

[Resting Peach Face]

It's so extreme that you can't help but be impressed they had the balls. I believe there are 1 metre height restrictions on stones in the graveyard. Its likely nobody wants to put their name to a destruction order on it as they've openly threatened repercussions

Yeah, funny though. They regularly have parties down there and there's been a lot of complaints, one person was told to remove little ornaments from her babies grave for "health & safety" then next visit saw this.

During the Covid restriction on numbers of mourners at funerals there was a traveller funeral local to me where hundreds turned up. When the funeral director called the police (he had no option - it was that or face a personal £10k fine) they threatened to burn his premises down, stormed the hearse, took the coffin, loaded it onto the back of a flat bed truck & drove to the cemetery with people hanging off the back of said truck. The police tried their best but effectively they got away with it - and then they wonder why their community is demonised

 

[Build a Bear Vikiwing]

Skulls, Unlimited does vertebrate skeletons of all types, and I highly recommend all of Ms. Doughty's books too.

In fact, on "Dirty Jobs" day, Mike helped clean the bones of a whale that had washed up on a beach somewhere. They had been preliminarily defleshed at the location, and then shipped to Oklahoma City for preservation.

It’s also just a pretty rad museum in general, the people who run it seem really cool. Definitely worth seeing, if you find yourself here for some godforsaken reason.