Grand Jury speculation thread

[MrTroll]

Can you fire a court appointed lawyer? Legit question.

Only if they have bad BO. Having nice-smelling legal counsel is one of our most important constitutional rights.

 

[Bonesaw]

So I guess we are in a new saga..

 

[Mason Verger]

That would be a sight, Chris would spergout like no other autist considering how he talks about Bella in the Jail Letters.

Is it really even that far out of the question? She’s balls deep in this mess and is the whistleblower with the bulk of the receipts. If they use any of it, it only seems like basic due diligence to vet the source.

 

[lolwatagain]

That’s not even the tip of the iceberg: Chris is in a three strike state, and seeing has this is his third strike, his punishment will be much harsher than if this wasn’t. Even if Chris were to miraculously worm his way out of this, his tugboat will be gone, his house likely will be condemned or foreclosed in under a year, and he’ll still be completely unemployable. In short, he’s completely fucked, and it’s best that he’s put in a psych ward. Worst case scenario for prison: he’s put in genpop and will be killed within a few months or weeks. Even his best case scenario just has him being delusional in psych ward (which will get worse when barb kicks the bucket)

Chris is not on his first strike. Unless I'm mistaken, the assault on Snyder was wobbled down to a misdemeanor, and I don't believe that the Gamestop macing was a "malicious wounding or malicious felony assault."

If either of those qualified as strikes, he could be eligible for enhanced penalties under VA's two strikes law if they are going for felony rape.

 

[deadson]

Oh to be a fly on that wall when Chris realizes that he is in waaay deeper shit than ever, even more than last year.

 

[DiggieSmalls]

The wait to see what the new charges are is killing me. God damnit

 

[ScaliasGhost]

By the time they got a judge to order Chris be released, the grand jury will have already met. Again, I could be talking about my ass, but the mere fact that they filed for indictment should satisfy the conditions. It would only become an issue if for some reason the grand jury failed to return a timely indictment.

In any event I suppose Chris would have to file a habeus petition for release, and the grand jury will definitely indict before that would be addressed.

 

[King Kiwi]

When does anyone think the new will be for GJ?

 

[A Grey Cat]

I'm still trying to get a handle on the situation so I can make sure that what I put in it isn't bullshit. Please be patient.

So far, The case was sent to the grand jury what that does NOT mean:

Chris is not going before a trial jury, despite the name. It simply means that on august 2nd sometime after 9 am a jury will meet to go over court dockets including chris's in order to decide if the case should be moved to circuit court and chris slapped with felony charges. It's a long shot but if by some chance they vote no on it then the case is kept as misdemeanor charges and chris is released since he can't be held longer than august 1st.

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

So far, The case was sent to the grand jury what that does NOT mean:

Chris is not going before a trial jury, despite the name. It simply means that on august 2nd sometime after 9 am a jury will meet to go over court dockets including chris's in order to decide if the case should be moved to circuit court and chris slapped with felony charges. It's a long shot but if by some chance they vote no on it then the case is kept as misdemeanor charges and chris is released since he can't be held longer than august 1st.

So by Tuesday we'll know what Chris' fate will be, eh?

 

[My Name is Mud]

The wait to see what the new charges are is killing me. God damnit

They most likely are the old charges, just upgraded.

 

[Dr. Silvestrechu]

Was Heilberg ever proven to be a true and honest Jew? Chris is gonna need all the help he can get in this trial.

 

[NuancedTardWrangler]

Chris is not on his first strike. Unless I'm mistaken, the assault on Snyder was wobbled down to a misdemeanor, and I don't believe that the Gamestop macing was a "malicious wounding or malicious felony assault."

If either of those qualified as strikes, he could be eligible for enhanced penalties under VA's two strikes law if they are going for felony rape.

If true then he’s one lucky bastard. Well, considering the situation

 

[thegooddoctor]

Technically he has four days left of the maximum sentence, and the judge could deduct the time he spent in a mental hospital. But if Chris took a plea bargain, its likely the judge will ignore the other four days as it would be too much effort and cost too much money to get Chris booked into state prison for less than a week.

Of course if Chris makes a fool of himself or the charges get upgraded, he could be spending even longer behind bars.

Honestly him sending longer behind bars, however long that may be probably doesn’t seem too terrible for him in the grand scheme of things, he’s completely wrapped himself up into his own impenetrable wall of delusion, people seem to forget he was ‘brave’ enough to literally fuck his mom. I don’t think anything phases him at this point. I see him completely relapsing into his own world even if he gets the worst possible ending and they add additional charges if he fucks up with his foot on the finish line. If you’ve ever seen the ending of Terry Gilliams Brazil I think that’s how Chris’s story will end.

 

[R00T]

will Ethan Ralph and Null be called as witnesses or will Null be called as an "expert" in lolcows?

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Oh to be a fly on that wall when Chris realizes that he is in waaay deeper shit than ever, even more than last year.

This is a guy with a history of things going over his head, and him not processing things clearly. I don't think Chris will realize anything, just go into more unhealthy coping.

 

[Sissyagamben]

Based on the assumption he’ll be charged with a felony (is grand jury fact checked yet?), I do believe they’ll get a trial because if Chris won’t accept a deal now, what’s the chance he’ll agree to plead out the felony? I’m sure Berg tried to convince him to accept deal and warned him about the consequences.


In the newer not fully released letters to retards there was mention of some sort of a deal or plan from hberg. I hate these letters because the released information are from poop touching retards doing a telephone game of their interpretation of what Chris allegedly said. Iirc the ween reported there’s some sort of deal or arrangement involving him getting out, returning to sonichu temple etc. I’m sure the exact offer from the deal is terribly off due to this retard telephone game, but it does sound like there was a plan for him to get out rather soonish. There’s also no reason for the state to not even try to offer a deal and rather go to court, they would gladly stick him in some sort of tard wrangling program as long as he can’t keep victimizing barb

 

[Duke-Diggler]

I would personally think Chris chan will testify all of his escapades, causing the entire courtroom to become an hero and Chris will escape into the virginia forest with nothing but strewn together medallions and a can of axe body spray.

 

[Autistic Sandwich]

We've arrived to destination.
For some reason, it's like I can hear Paul Dano singing Ave Maria from The Batman.

 

[妛壥彁閠]

Unless he presents a good reason to be replaced, Heilberg will still be Chris' attorney.



I don't think that's necessary. By the time they got a judge to order Chris be released, the grand jury will have already met. Again, I could be talking about my ass, but the mere fact that they filed for indictment should satisfy the conditions. It would only become an issue if for some reason the grand jury failed to return a timely indictment.

This is more of a common law and due process issue rather than exact deadlines specified in statute. I spent quite a while researching this, but in every case I've found (outside of Mississippi), when the issue was brought to a judge, the prosecution was ordered to either release the defendant or immediately submit the case for indictment, with the person remaining in jail in the latter case, rather than being freed and then rearrested.



I'm still trying to get a handle on the situation so I can make sure that what I put in it isn't bullshit. Please be patient.

Could a plea bargain still be a possibility under these circumstances, or has that ship sailed?