Grand Jury speculation thread

[lanthanide jelly]

this retarded nigger fucked his mom

 

[Yankee Shogun]

this retarded nigger fucked his mom

Really now? We really, all, had no idea that Christian Weston Chandler, writer of Sonichu and the man this forum was made for, raped his mother, none of us knew, thank you for spreading your timeless wisdom here.

 

[Ass Johnson]

Here are some snippets from the newer letters posted on the farm, I’m just reposting these more relevant parts here:
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“Big talk to impress Bella”

Okay, Chris. Whatever you say. It’s certainly working out well for you.

 

[A-№1]

Sooo many shitposts to wade through…

I mean, I have no legal expertise but I was under the impression the only possible moves that could have been made were either to force Chris to make a plea deal as guilty, or do a hail mary and go for insanity?

There was always the outside chance Chris would fuck it all up in the end. He has a talent for that. It's about the only thing he's actually good at.

the continuances that have lead to this point seem to mean they were holding him on one charge while the prosecution worked out some things and decided they wanted to at least upgrade one count to a felony or add felony charges.

Or they spent the past year trying to get him to agree to a plea deal, and Chris, being the idiot he is, was having none of it. Instead he ran out the clock and ran out of the court's patience.

misdemeanor grand juries are a thing in Virginia. They are rare, but they exist.
It could still be misdemeanor.

Would they bother sending this case to a grand jury for a misdemeanor when he already has the maximum time served clocked in? I doubt it.

So does this increase or decrease the possibility of him being found guilty?

He is guilty.

His only possible defense is diminished capacity.

A grand jury in Virginia is just a bunch of random citizens. They get a list of cases and then decide on every single one of them that the defendant gets to go to trial on the felonies they're charged with.

As an aside, it's always better to do jury duty on a grand jury instead of a trial jury. So much easier.

The prosecution pulled the trigger on felony charges to make good on the threat, or at least to keep him in jail.

Or to force him into a plea deal with terms that actually stick. It's a lot easier to enforce a plea deal when the consequence for failing to abide by it is prison.

A NORMAL PERSON USING THIS SITE

All three of them?

or there was always a felony in the cards but Heilberg stalled the process for some reason.

Maybe setting Chris up for a DimCap defense? Though that seems a little too 4D chess to me.

Grand Jury’s always indict,

Not always. I recall a grand jury refusing to indict a marijuana possession case because the state had legalized it since the original arrest, and there really was no point in going to trial. I don't think the prosecutor was even interested in going forward on that case, but it was already in the system, and as they say on Arrakis: "The forms must be obeyed."

In Chris' case it barely even qualifies as a rubber stamp. The grand jury is just a procedural formality before the prosecution can lay some serious legal pressure on Chris.

Grand Jury transcripts are handled very sensitively.

The only thing of interest from the grand jury would be finding out what evidence the prosecution actually has on Chris. Things like what they might have found at 14BLC during the initial wellness check. Other than that, the transcripts are just boring procedural junk.

What are the chances that Joshua Connor Moon will be called to the stand?

That depends on whether or not Chris is stupid enough to force it to a trial.

Likely Null's contribution could be handled by affidavit, though. Or by videoconferencing. It's highly unlikely the court will (or even can) compel him to attend (they can try). He's a little bit out of their jurisdiction.

I've been on a grand jury and this is true. They can request any person, go to any place. I guess they could also go to CWCville if they wanted.

Mostly they just want to confirm the indictment and go home.

I have to wonder if he was offered a deal and refused it.

That seems very likely. Possibly he was offered a sweetheart deal at the very beginning and all the subsequent evaluations have been partly to figure out what the fuck is wrong with him that he didn't accept it.

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

I wonder how the resident prison Muslims will take to Chris using a prayer rug for his heathen infidel shit?

Not well in prison proper. In jail, it's likely tolerated (if there's a Muslim in the jail) because no one wants to mess up their bail hearing or getting out in X days. In prison, someone serving 10 years who gets offended isn't going to bat an eye at 2 weeks in the hole for beating Chris for this blasphemy.

 

[A Grey Cat]

This thread has moved extremely fast and I've been busy today - what is known at present? Is it confirmed or at least strongly implied that this has come about because Chris refused a plea?

Chris may have refused the plea for reasons that may forever remain unknown. As a result his case was sent to the grand jury. Despite the name it doesn't mean Chris is going before a jury trial yet. IT just means on the 8th of next month a group of people will meet and go over Chris's docket to vote on whether or not the court should proceed with pressing felony charges.

So that raises the question will Chris still be released on the first? the grand jury doesn't meet til the 8th and until they do and unless they vote yes than Chris's misdemeanor charges are all he has.

 

[Elbow Greased Strength]

That's interesting. I always thought dudes in PC and did sex crimes wouldn't be viewed in any favorable light by other inmates given the hierarchy structure in prisons.

They're definitely still hated but it's just not worth adding on to your sentence to attack them, the only reward in exchange is to gain some kind of worthless prison respect by beating up a chomo. I think Jared got rolled once but it was by some guy who was in for a long time, possibly life.

Most people in places that a sex offender like Chris would go want to get out as soon as possible.

 

[Muppetstudios]

Can you imagine a normal person being asked to sit on a regular jury for this case and listen to Sonichu lore?

A Grand Jury is just logical for the prosecution from what I understand

 

[PsychoNerd054]

“Big talk to impress Bella”

Okay, Chris. Whatever you say. It’s certainly working out well for you.

Like, let's suppose this was true. Did Chris really think that Bella would be impressed he got ancient dusty vagina for her own fungi infested snatch?

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The only way to get rid of him was to give him a diploma.

Maybe putting Chris on the honor roll at MHS was so Borb didn't threaten to sue the school.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

No, it can be for the incest charge. It's what's needed for them to proceed with felony incest. Remember the incest charge *is* a felony, it's only a misdemeanor if they don't indict. For some reason they didn't indict until now, which was basically the deadline if they wanted to keep him in jail for it. (Though they could have just stacked on other charges for other acts if they had evidence, and kept him in jail for those).

Could it have been that Heilberg, getting into this case knowing nothing of Chris's history, just judging him on his looks and actions when talking with him, thought he was legitimately insane, and thus, wanted to make extra sure, and the court as well? Remember, Chris only got out of the nut house in what? May? With a clean bill of sanity. The jail seemed to have analyzed him as well and like every other psych exam, ruled Chris sane, or sane enough for a trial?

Chris getting out of Western in May could have been the "proof" the prosecution needed that Chris was of sound mind. Remember, he did say that he talked with doctors or psychologists about him and Barb's relationship, and nothing about how to act in court. It could have been something in addition to the jail's evaluation, to make sure, without a doubt Chris is sane. THEN the prosecution decided on big boy charges after those evaluations and possibly what Chris admitted. I could see him being stupid enough to think "Well since I'm at a hospital, I can tell them that I fucked Barb, since it's not jail or court"

 

[Yankee Shogun]

Like, let's suppose this was true. Did Chris really think that Bella would be impressed he got ancient dusty vagina for her own fungi infested snatch?

We're talking about the genius mind of Chris here, it took him a year to come up with "I made it up", I could 100% see him doing that

Note that I do think he raped his mother, just initially him making it up wasn't the most unreasonable conclusion.

 

[King Metalia]

Agreed. The 20th Century gave us the OJ Simpson trial, the 21st Century is giving us the Chris-Chan trial.

Hopefully unlike the OJ trial the guilty party loses spectacularly.

 

[FrigginWeeb]

please please please for the love of god, stream it, with a view of the jury. I want to see them slowly lose their faith in humanity.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

at this point what is the best outcome for chris? i imagine they are gonna try to get as little time as possible since he has been locked up for some time now already. obviously chris would just want things to go back to how they were before so he could just keep soulbonding with barb.
personally i think chris should stay locked up or at least put in some type of home. i just dont see it ending well for him on the outside especially now that he is going down this jesus christ arc.

 

[My Name is Mud]

Maybe Hailberg called for continuance upon continuance in order to have enough time to read the CWCki and watch Geno's videos

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

Could it have been that Heilberg, getting into this case knowing nothing of Chris's history, just judging him on his looks and actions when talking with him, thought he was legitimately insane, and thus, wanted to make extra sure, and the court as well?

I think Heilberg knew who Chris was and specifically requested to be on the case. Why would a very respected and semi-famous criminal lawyer be doing pro bono family court cases when he defended such high profile cases as the Beltway Sniper (which I do believe he did pro bono as well, someone correct me if I'm wrong). I just have a feeling he knew of Chris before the arrest in some manner, with Greene being such a small population, and when he saw the arrest he was all like, "That poor retard doesn't stand a chance with Tiffany the First Year Associate" and felt a genuine need to give Chris a better chance.

 

[Your Favorite New Friend]

Hopefully unlike the OJ trial the guilty party loses spectacularly.

I'd call getting stabbed to death by OJ a spectacular loss.

 

[Sourpuss]

Hopefully unlike the OJ trial the guilty party loses spectacularly.

"I hope that the funny incest sonic man goes away spectacularly so no one can laugh at him anymore that'll show him"

The fuck is with people wanting lolcows to disappear nowadays. How mad can you be lmao

 

[MugolEx]

“Big talk to impress Bella”

Okay, Chris. Whatever you say. It’s certainly working out well for you.

You know a man is truly interested in a woman when they bring up their Oedipus complex. Totally normal because that's what every woman wants to hear.