Grand Jury speculation thread

[PsychoNerd054]

I swear to god the next time someone talks about Null or Marvin or Bella or anyone else being witnesses, I'm poking both my eyes out with a salad fork.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I remember it being said that if it was still a misdemeanor, he'd be out of jail on the day that marked a year since he was put in jail initially. I'm assuming that's out the window now with the charge being bumped up. Which means the Grand Jury can happen in either a few days or a few months right?

The grand jury has nothing to do with Chris himself. The prosecutor just goes to the Grand Jury to request a felony indictment. That will probably happen within 30 days. Grand Jury’s always indict, and the Prosecution has more than enough to get a ton of charges in this if they wish. Above and beyond felony incest and rape there is some Elder Abuse which gets missed. After the indictment comes the first hearing in big boy court.

 

[Disheveled Human]

The Story about Chris Chan becoming a Ward of the State.

 

[No_one]

I swear to god the next time someone talks about Null or Marvin or Bella or anyone else being witnesses, I'm poking both my eyes out with a salad fork.

Just remember to livestream.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I remember it being said that if it was still a misdemeanor, he'd be out of jail on the day that marked a year since he was put in jail initially. I'm assuming that's out the window now with the charge being bumped up. Which means the Grand Jury can happen in either a few days or a few months right?

It depends on how often the grand jury meets. I can't find any information on how often it meets in Greene County. In extreme situations a special grand jury can be called, but I don't think Chris warrants that.

As I understand it, they can keep Chris in jail longer, since they clearly did a probable cause hearing today and thus they're proceeding as a felony.

Chris would only get out now if the prosecution decided not to send it to the grand jury.

 

[MasterDisaster]

Exceptional wishful thinking but I would love to see this go national news at some point.

 

[A Grey Cat]

The JerkOPs finally got 'em

It wasn't the jerkops..it was beauty killed the beast.

The suspicion is Chris once again found a way to fuck himself. Likely by refusing a plea deal.

Heilburg: Chandler please! I'm begging you take this deal! I did all I could to get the terms as fair as possible.

Chandler: No pardon? No Compensation? no limousine back to the temple? Then no deal!

Heilburg: Fine, It's your funeral. You're on you own fatass.

 

[Thorgrim Grudgebearer]

Before everyone starts flipping out, this does NOT mean Chris is getting charged with Felonies

Seems like grand jury almost always leads to the guy being indicted according to those who know more than me about this

this has become a habeus corpus issue

Wtf does the pope has to do with this

 

[Chef Kef]

Legalfriends,

Does the upgrade from a misdemeanor to a felony means Chris will have to be rebooked? If so there should be an updated mugshot coming when the new charges are publicly released.

Does this also mean that Chris is going to have to wait out his trials in big boy state prison rather than the county jail he was being held at before? This is of course assuming they don't throw him back in the asylum for a couple months for his own protection.

 

[Norman B. Normal]

Semi off topic, but theoretically could someone be jailed indefinitely by just insulting the judge and refusing to answer questions, every time they are taken back for a hearing?

Or is there a point in which the judge will just move to have them tried in absentia to get rid of them?

There are two kinds of contempt: contempt used to punish, and contempt used to coerce.

You flip out in the courtroom and call the judge a fucking faggot, he sends you to jail for a few days to think about what you did. That's contempt of court used as punishment. It cannot be indefinite.

The court orders you to do something and you refuse to do it, you get sent to jail until you change your mind. That's contempt of court used as coercion. It can theoretically last forever, because you can get out of jail at any time by just doing what you were told to do--you "hold the keys to the cell in your own pocket," as legal commentators put it.

 

[Naamaleipuri]

I think it's better for me to get some sleep and check KF after I wake up.
Everyone shizzing in their pants and spreading their wild theories hurts my nonexistent brain.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Guess all I get today is a Kengle Tweet, a Helena Retweet, and more and more paragraphs of legal conjecture.

Oh well

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

I'm surprised about the closed registration. Do people still give a shit about Chris Chan enough to want to join and talk about the procedural aspects of his mom-fucking case?

Shit, the notice was the only way I knew anything was happening today

I'm not complaining though. Anyone trying to register should have to pass a water ordeal or something, thin those new numbers out

 

[PsychoNerd054]

So they're sending it to a Grand Jury?
So they're charging him with a felony after all?
Lmao what did that poor, crazy, sad bastard do in court to fuck up his deal and piss off the DA?
That's it boys, say goodbye to OPL I guess.

Press F for Our Goddess Blue Heart of the Commodore Consoles and the Nations of Fucktarded Insanity.
Be fucking comical if his defense calls some of the dipshits that have been fucking with him but I still doubt this will see an actual trial.

I don't think it works that way. If he's on grand jury, doesn't that only mean that they're just PLANNING to give him felonies?

 

[mindlessobserver]

Seems like grand jury almost always leads to the guy being indicted according to those who know more than me about this

It's a procedural step. Chris may still just plead to something without going through the whole rigamarol. The key difference now is the Circuit Court can apply far more coercive force to Chris then the J&D court can. J&D's primary purpose is dispute resolution and equitable justice. The Circuit Court on the other hand can bring out the hot pokers and whips.

Wtf does the pope has to do with this

Habeus Corpus in US Law means the State just can't keep you in jail indefinitely without charge or trial. Moving this up to the Circuit level means the Commonwealths attorney has to either shit or get off the shitter.

 

[Chazzed Up]

More like a habeus corpulent issue.

 

[ScaliasGhost]

Semi off topic, but theoretically could someone be jailed indefinitely by just insulting the judge and refusing to answer questions, every time they are taken back for a hearing?

Or is there a point in which the judge will just move to have them tried in absentia to get rid of them?

Yes, yes, and both, at least in my jurisdiction. There are two kinds of contempt of court: civil and criminal. If you fuck around in court a judge can order you confined until you agree to behave, or fine you until you comply. This is civil contempt based on the judge's authority to control their courtroom. Theoretically, I suppose if you keep up the behavior the judge could keep on confining you, but in practice that doesn't happen. The state could also charge you with criminal contempt if your behavior meets the statutory definition, this would be a separate criminal proceeding.

In many cases, you can be tried without being present. The judge will warn you that your behavior, if it continues, constitutes an implicit waiver of your right to be present, you will be removed, and the proceedings will go on without you.

 

[Pepito The Cat]

Ok but......a jury of probably white, redneck Southern people faced with a scary troon that says he is a God????? AND HE FUCKED HIS MOTHER?!?!

Chris will have the fastest deliberation ever they're not even going to leave the bench they're all just going to start unanimously screaming guilty

I'd pay to see him correct her pronouns to the jury.

 

[FinnSven]

It all comes full circle this season of Chris Chan as Christine finally learns what it's like to be a woman.

I wonder if his arsehole will end up like Wedge’s.

While yes I am well aware that prison rape is far rarer than popular media and humor makes it out to be, I am sure Chris will find himself being a victim.

Either his general idiocy will lead to other prisoners making an example of him, a mentally unstable lag believing Chris’s claim of womanhood so claiming him as property or prison wife, or Chris having to whore himself out to survive.

The other possibility is that Chris will find himself being used as practice for prison fights and shankings. The fact that he is large but physically weak means he would be better practice than the usual smaller skinny inmates selected for this purpose.

 

[Procrastinhater]

POV: You come back from commissary to meet your new Celly: