Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Also I noticed her username is u/QueerlyQueenly. This is just autistic speculation on my part but I have a feeling she’s trying to be the hip, cool, progressive mom, going off the name. I’ve seen so many of these types of moms. They give their child whatever they want, constantly overshare about their child, praise their child constantly, and tend to be pretty left-leaning. They listen to what’s hip with the kids (in this case trooning out and being “queer” and do the same to make their kid feel heard and not alone.)

At the end of the day this is just pure coddling, and these kids are not gonna grow up prepared to be adults. Especially not the troons. You would think a mother of a daughter would know better but I guess not, sadly…

Amanda Jette Knox would be the best example of this. I can't even follow her as a lolcow because the cringe is too genuinely painful.
 
This one's funny.
5 years on HRT as well. Link to post
MTFs seem to constantly exhibit an above average male biological phenotype.
He was a handsome guy.
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Amanda Jette Knox would be the best example of this. I can't even follow her as a lolcow because the cringe is too genuinely painful.

LOL!

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“Hurr-durr.. What’s the trans industry?!” Said the lady who has made a career as “non binary”/tranny mom and comments daily on HRT/SRS shit.

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A new kind of dangerous, experimental surgery that’s bound to have minimal effects?’

SIGN ME UP!!
 
The only safe hole for mtf is no hole- zero depth, with a bit of erectile tissue used as a stand-in for the clitoris, and skin used for labia appearance. these can look well enough to pass, retain slight sensation for sexual function, and don't involve dilation or abdominal surgeries. that and a set of breast implants are safest.

mtf getting mastectomies is also safe, these are done on millions of women for non-troon reasons and when done by a good surgeon are safe and simply take time to heal. a strap-on, packer or other apparatus can be worn, even ones that look very realistic and allow standing to pee.

all the other surgeries in this thread are untested, unstudied, not standardized and unsafe.

if someone is an adult with full information about safety risks and is given reasonable, low expectations by the surgeon, it's nobody else's place to tell them how to spend their own money. people get massive knocker implants, Botox, ass implants, all kinds of crazy shit. it's that these surgeons are unethical and create high expectations, the patient is not giving informed consent for experimental surgery most of the time.

then the community will shut down the problems and aftereffects these patients suffer, will hide the bad results and will lure people with the high expectation that can't be matched in reality.

can't find the post remarking on "good and bad amholes" but that's the long and short of it. there's very few safe procedures.

none of them will create anything but the vague ability to pass, at a glance, as the opposite sex.
 
The only safe hole for mtf is no hole- zero depth, with a bit of erectile tissue used as a stand-in for the clitoris, and skin used for labia appearance. these can look well enough to pass, retain slight sensation for sexual function, and don't involve dilation or abdominal surgeries. that and a set of breast implants are safest.

mtf getting mastectomies is also safe, these are done on millions of women for non-troon reasons and when done by a good surgeon are safe and simply take time to heal. a strap-on, packer or other apparatus can be worn, even ones that look very realistic and allow standing to pee.
You probably meant ftm here.
 
if someone is an adult with full information about safety risks and is given reasonable, low expectations by the surgeon, it's nobody else's place to tell them how to spend their own money.
I'd kill for a survey of funding sources for "gender-affirming" surgeries by percent.

What % of postoperative troons paid primarily for their surgeries ...
- With their own money?
- Through their private insurance?
- With inheritance/trust fund money?
- Through gov insurance (like Medicaid)?
- With crowd-funding/donations/begging?
 
I think most gender surgeons won't operate with a BMI over 35. I know this because the MtF who wrote the revenge-fantasy novel about killing TERFs complains about it.

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Fuck me that's hilarious though. He's denied amhole surgery because his BMI is too high. So what does he do? Lose weight? No, he goes to the ice cream parlor. This fat piece of shit copes with his excessive BMI by going to the ice cream parlor where he sobs into his cone of soft serve ice cream :story:
 
Crazy woman squeals with delight at the thought of mutilating her 15 year old daughter.

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This bitch needs to have her child taken away. Seriously, I'm so glad they're some states making this kind of shit illegal now.🤬
This one's funny.
5 years on HRT as well. Link to post
MTFs seem to constantly exhibit an above average male biological phenotype.
He has baby pecs, what the hell?
It's so surreal...😥
 
I'm still flabbergasted that FtM troons submit to the flaying of their arms/legs to create their fleshtube. It looks absolutely ghastly.

Medfags or anybody who knows these procedures, why don't the doctors put a tissue expander under the skin to stretch out the skin and increase the surface area of the graft vs stripping a piece straight off of an extremity? Would using an expander make the tissue too thin?

Maybe it's due to the fact that the doctors take more than just the top layers of skin, but I don't know for sure.
 
The only safe hole for mtf is no hole- zero depth, with a bit of erectile tissue used as a stand-in for the clitoris, and skin used for labia appearance. these can look well enough to pass, retain slight sensation for sexual function, and don't involve dilation or abdominal surgeries. that and a set of breast implants are safest.

mtf getting mastectomies is also safe, these are done on millions of women for non-troon reasons and when done by a good surgeon are safe and simply take time to heal. a strap-on, packer or other apparatus can be worn, even ones that look very realistic and allow standing to pee.

all the other surgeries in this thread are untested, unstudied, not standardized and unsafe.

if someone is an adult with full information about safety risks and is given reasonable, low expectations by the surgeon, it's nobody else's place to tell them how to spend their own money. people get massive knocker implants, Botox, ass implants, all kinds of crazy shit. it's that these surgeons are unethical and create high expectations, the patient is not giving informed consent for experimental surgery most of the time.

then the community will shut down the problems and aftereffects these patients suffer, will hide the bad results and will lure people with the high expectation that can't be matched in reality.

can't find the post remarking on "good and bad amholes" but that's the long and short of it. there's very few safe procedures.

none of them will create anything but the vague ability to pass, at a glance, as the opposite sex.
There are no safe surgeries that are not medically necessary. Surgery is something that should always be avoided at all costs in a healthy body.
 
Never mind that weight loss surgery has mountains of requirements and gatekeeping around it, the exact thing that TRAs don't want transgender surgeries to have
ideally yes. in practice? not so much. the doctors who are very skilled at WLS tend to do a good job screening candidates, but there are many surgeons who took a seminar to learn the technique and mostly focus on selling the surgery to patients. the office works like a conveyor belt that exists to limit the liability of the surgeon. it has a pretty high mortality rate that is not solely due to the patients being fat when they get put under. there are also people like wings who go to a poorer country to get wls when they can't meet the requirements. But at least there are reputable options.
Medfags or anybody who knows these procedures, why don't the doctors put a tissue expander under the skin to stretch out the skin and increase the surface area of the graft vs stripping a piece straight off of an extremity? Would using an expander make the tissue too thin?
I have been trying to figure out why they don't use tissue expanders and I can't think of a very good explanation. Losing the mobility of one hand should not be an acceptable outcome for an elective cosmetic procedure. Doing shitloads of physical therapy for your hand shouldn't be an outcome of an elective cosmetic procedure. They use tissue expanders in many surgeries and it was offered for jazz jennings to try and account for the babydick problem, but they went with PPT instead...

The possibilities I can come up with have to do with covering their own asses or maximizing profit, not improving patient outcomes. what I can think of:

"this is how we have always done it" is a surprisingly strong reason for shitty medical practices to persist, and the way that such things are stopped tends to be many rounds of review from other medical professionals. they show each other weird/bad cases and try to come up with ways to improve standards of care. the SRS surgeons have as close to a hugbox as you can find in medicine, they don't present problem cases to each other because they're scared of "transphobes" weaponizing it and frankly all of them have a lot of bad outcomes. So instead of risking looking bad & improving outcomes, they just keep creating bad outcomes.

alternately they may worry that doing anything different may open them up to more liability problems. cetrulo's misadventures into phallo-crossandwhiches may prove instructive- I pretty sure that he has been threatened with a lawsuit at this point, based on his clinic turning down new patients suddenly & just how viral his handiwork went, attorneys know how those pics will look in court. if you copy everyone else you can claim you are doing standard of care. if you make shit up and no one copies it then you're going to have a harder time arguing it, especially if you end up with anything that looks weirder than other peoples results.

the second thing I can think of is that tissue expanders might result in fewer people getting on the conveyor belt towards multiple SRS surgeries since it takes time and looks weird. the worst surgeons all want patients to skip as much prep work as possible, like those that say "don't worry about getting electrolysis beforehand! we scrape the follicles off!" which is bullshit and they know it. but if they wait for you to take months to finish that step they are cashing fewer checks because the more people stop and think about this procedure, the more they back out (or save up for a better surgeon). it means they have to spend more time in the clinic assessing expanders for around 100$ a visit vs charging many thousands of dollars for surgery days.

if someone is an adult with full information about safety risks and is given reasonable, low expectations by the surgeon, it's nobody else's place to tell them how to spend their own money. people get massive knocker implants, Botox, ass implants, all kinds of crazy shit. it's that these surgeons are unethical and create high expectations, the patient is not giving informed consent for experimental surgery most of the time.

then the community will shut down the problems and aftereffects these patients suffer, will hide the bad results and will lure people with the high expectation that can't be matched in reality.
part of the issue with the community is that they convince each other that there is a massive conspiracy in place to hurt them specifically, and that other troons are the only ones that can be trusted. they tell each other what to say at the doctors office to get a specific outcome. it isn't really possible for anyone to get informed consent if they think that there are factors like that at play.
 
I'm still flabbergasted that FtM troons submit to the flaying of their arms/legs to create their fleshtube. It looks absolutely ghastly.

Medfags or anybody who knows these procedures, why don't the doctors put a tissue expander under the skin to stretch out the skin and increase the surface area of the graft vs stripping a piece straight off of an extremity? Would using an expander make the tissue too thin?

Maybe it's due to the fact that the doctors take more than just the top layers of skin, but I don't know for sure.
There was a study in 2019 regarding this exact issue. The reason why its not done often is too many complications with the tissue expander in the forearm area. I should also add that they are left in for 6-8 weeks so its not like its a quick procedure, most of these mental cases want their fake dick ASAP.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31232822/

There is a case study where a tissue expander was used in the thigh to replace the skin taken from the forearm for the phalloplasty. (which is as ridiculous as it sounds)

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TiF tries to get phallo surgery. Donor skin starts to immediately die upon resection due to her shitty blood flow. TiF is now stuck in hospital awaiting another surgery.
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Totally doesn’t sound like a rotdog that’ll fall off and die in year or two because it’s too big/there isn’t enough blood coming through!


Btw: For those wondering, here’s what a typical waiver looks like:



My favorite part: “I acknowledge that no guarantee has been given by anyone as to the results that may be obtained.”

And here’s my last contribution for today, which we can name:

TROONS DOING STUPID TROON SHIT!

Now I’d imagine that the reaction from any normal person hearing about a 40% complication rate on a surgery they’re about to get, would be something like: “Whoooah, hold on just a second!”

And promptly nope the fuck out, unless
it’s like a liver transplant for someone who’s terminally ill.

Troons? Not so much!

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“That can’t be right! My doctor warmly recommends that surgery, and it can’t be because it’s guaranteed business for him due to a replacement in about a decade!”

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D00ley btw posted one of her usual “I’m soooo happy about mah dick guise! Honest! It’s not that important to me but I’m soooo thrilled!”-cope posts.

But this one was much more lulzy imho.

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I just can’t imagine a more masculine thing than sitting and small talking with all the bros about that cute jockstrap you saw yesterday and OMG you were soooo excited because it’s sooo sexy and fun!
 
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The only safe hole for mtf is no hole- zero depth, with a bit of erectile tissue used as a stand-in for the clitoris, and skin used for labia appearance. these can look well enough to pass, retain slight sensation for sexual function, and don't involve dilation or abdominal surgeries. that and a set of breast implants are safest.
We are too desensitized… “you should just cut off your dick and balls, the inner parts of your penis that we can’t remove will act as a fake clit, and we can create some scar tissue or whatever on your taint to make it look like a human vagina from 100 feet away in the eyes of an alien” is actually somewhat solid advice for the retards we discuss here. Now imagine saying that to a normal man, he will probably want to bash your head in the wall

Edit to add: I imagine in this case the mtf could still have anal sex? Can’t say that for the most post op trannies
 
Totally doesn’t sound like a rotdog that’ll fall off and die in year or two because it’s too big/there isn’t enough blood coming through!


Btw: For those wondering, here’s what a typical waiver looks like:



My favorite part: “I acknowledge that no guarantee has been given by anyone as to the results that may be obtained.”

And here’s my last contribution for today, which we can name:

TROONS DOING STUPID TROON SHIT!

Now I’d imagine that the reaction from any normal person hearing about a 40% complication rate on a surgery they’re about to get, would be something like: “Whoooah, hold on just a second!”

And promptly nope the fuck out, unless
it’s like a liver transplant for someone who’s terminally ill.

Troons? Not so much!

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I should be used to it but it still amazes me how nonchalant they are about permanently altering their genitals.

Saying you’re « hesitant to have to deal with the complications » is fine if you’re debating whether or not to set up surround sound by yourself, but I think having a 40% chance you’ll need a catheter for the rest of your life should be treated with a bit more gravitas.
 
I should be used to it but it still amazes me how nonchalant they are about permanently altering their genitals.

Saying you’re « hesitant to have to deal with the complications » is fine if you’re debating whether or not to set up surround sound by yourself, but I think having a 40% chance you’ll need a catheter for the rest of your life should be treated with a bit more gravitas.
Your example might be a "good" outcome with "complications". Imagine getting a balloon for your arm cock and you just end up with a fucked arm and no inflatable cock, or any cock at all. This shit is like the licensed medicine version of injecting industrial silicone into your ass for $500 in Miami.
 
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