Nicholas J. Fuentes vs Jaden McNeil - A jilted ex lover cries and seethes eternally for months on end

Thank you. Honestly, Jaden strikes me as sane, confident, competent and mentally tough, not one to break easily or lose control of himself easily. I think he’ll be ok, this shit won’t ruin his life.
He seems very normal, actually. I don’t know why he was ever into the weirdo incel thing or made a big deal about kissing a girl or any of the weird values they have in that movement.
 
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here's clips of Nick talking about Jaden from Wednesday

Back on the "Jaden is a trans woman" bit
"the sussiest thing about me is that I was friends with her for so long"
"she was such a bratty princess"


"she was never interested in masculine things" because Jaden would "incessantly" watch romcoms with his gf and didn't want to watch movies with Nick.


imitating Jaden's superchat dance for an unrelated superchat, because he is still constantly thinking about Jaden.
 
He seems very normal, actually. I don’t know why he was ever into the weirdo incel thing or made a big deal about kissing a girl or any of the weird values they have in that movement.
Because he was starting a career in politics through Turning Point USA, saw that it was full of gay niggers and troon worship and the incel catboy reached his hand.

The kissing a girl = bad was applied to specifically kissing an e-girl. On those circles, Internet women are seen universally as the classical highschool whore who your peers would make fun of you for fucking. Mix that with tradcath larp inceldom and you got the sin of kissing an Internet whore as the biggest betrayal of the movement.
 
Thank you. Honestly, Jaden strikes me as sane, confident, competent and mentally tough, not one to break easily or lose control of himself easily. I think he’ll be ok, this shit won’t ruin his life.
He seems very normal, actually. I don’t know why he was ever into the weirdo incel thing or made a big deal about kissing a girl or any of the weird values they have in that movement.
Idk about ALL THAT but I do think Jaden is more resourceful, level-headed, and normal than most of the AF crowd which isn't saying much but gives him a leg up as a refugee from the movement.
 
Where can I find nick’s streams? And where can I find a copy of the America First episodes going back to November?
 
Thank you! Does it go back further than June 15? (That’s as far as it goes on telegram for me). Again, thank you, you guys are so informative.

Also, this is just a general comment, but I’ve seen Nick on a handful of other people’s streams and while he’s definitely sheltered and acts like an old man, I don’t think he’s an incel as in involuntarily celibate. I don’t think he’s asexual, either, like he claims to be. I think he’s likely gay or into things that would conflict with his movement and that he, himself, maybe hasn’t come to terms with or would feel immoral acting on or is scared to act on for fear of exposure.
I think he had feelings for Jaden that he knew weren’t reciprocated in that way, so he never made a move, but grew attached to him as something more than a friend. And I don’t think Jaden knew. On the Keno stream, Jaden said that after the trip to New York last year, that’s when he decided he was done with Nick. It’s not quite clear what happened, other than Nick acted really demanding and insufferable. But yeah.
That’s just my take so far, it may change as I watch more of him.
 
Also, this is just a general comment, but I’ve seen Nick on a handful of other people’s streams and while he’s definitely sheltered and acts like an old man, I don’t think he’s an incel as in involuntarily celibate. I don’t think he’s asexual, either, like he claims to be. I think he’s likely gay or into things that would conflict with his movement and that he, himself, maybe hasn’t come to terms with or would feel immoral acting on or is scared to act on for fear of exposure.
I think he had feelings for Jaden that he knew weren’t reciprocated in that way, so he never made a move, but grew attached to him as something more than a friend. And I don’t think Jaden knew. On the Keno stream, Jaden said that after the trip to New York last year, that’s when he decided he was done with Nick. It’s not quite clear what happened, other than Nick acted really demanding and insufferable. But yeah.
That’s just my take so far, it may change as I watch more of him.
I've had friends who developed unrequited feelings and it made them act clingy/controlling. In the moment, as an involved party, it's not always easy to see that they have feelings for you and that's why they're acting so strangely. While it's possible Jaden knew how Nick felt and used it to his advantage, I don't think so. These people will chimp out at you over the most bizarre things (like not spending enough time with them, deciding to make a certain purchase, etc.); I had someone freak out because I decided to buy a new car instead of having an expensive band-aid repair done on my older vehicle. It's not out of the realm of possibility to think one such meltdown is what happened in NY and caused Jaden to cut ties with Nick.
 
I think he had feelings for Jaden that he knew weren’t reciprocated in that way, so he never made a move, but grew attached to him as something more than a friend. And I don’t think Jaden knew. On the Keno stream, Jaden said that after the trip to New York last year, that’s when he decided he was done with Nick. It’s not quite clear what happened, other than Nick acted really demanding and insufferable. But yeah.
That’s just my take so far, it may change as I watch more of him.
It's not out of the realm of possibility to think one such meltdown is what happened in NY and caused Jaden to cut ties with Nick.
it's interesting that this trip was the final straw for Jaden and afterwards Nick is depression posting on twitter:
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"been completely isolated for two full weeks now" on Nov 29th just about 2 full weeks post-New York trip.

Also recently Nick said that when he was sadposting on twitter he was usually doing it to get the attention of a particular person.

Btw @HeyU if you are kinda new to Nick's Jaden insanity I recommend listening to his stream convo with Veyta I archived here. it's an underrated like 1.5 hours pure crazy ex ranting about Nick owning Jaden by not making eye contact with him and 'breaking the snap streak'.
 
I think that was the weekend when Jaden & Simon had to tard wrangle him into not wearing the "Donda" costume, which I guess is the mask-over-the-head thing with the big black puffy garbage-bag jacket. He actually wanted to wear that to the rallies. They did him a favor, and he still doesn't realize it.
 
it's interesting that this trip was the final straw for Jaden and afterwards Nick is depression posting on twitter:

"been completely isolated for two full weeks now" on Nov 29th just about 2 full weeks post-New York trip.

Also recently Nick said that when he was sadposting on twitter he was usually doing it to get the attention of a particular person.

Jaden talked about how during "white boy summer," Nick had a playlist which included the Miley Cyrus song "Malibu," and every time the phrase "next to you" was sung, Nick would point at Jaden and sing the lyrics. Maybe this time Jaden got the hint... :thinking:
 
it's interesting that this trip was the final straw for Jaden and afterwards Nick is depression posting on twitter:
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"been completely isolated for two full weeks now" on Nov 29th just about 2 full weeks post-New York trip.

Also recently Nick said that when he was sadposting on twitter he was usually doing it to get the attention of a particular person.

Btw @HeyU if you are kinda new to Nick's Jaden insanity I recommend listening to his stream convo with Veyta I archived here. it's an underrated like 1.5 hours pure crazy ex ranting about Nick owning Jaden by not making eye contact with him and 'breaking the snap streak'.

Jaden talked about how during "white boy summer," Nick had a playlist which included the Miley Cyrus song "Malibu," and every time the phrase "next to you" was sung, Nick would point at Jaden and sing the lyrics. Maybe this time Jaden got the hint... :thinking:

100%...nick wanted to pump jaden's dumper but im not sure jaden did anything more than a circlejerk.
 
it's interesting that this trip was the final straw for Jaden and afterwards Nick is depression posting on twitter:
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"been completely isolated for two full weeks now" on Nov 29th just about 2 full weeks post-New York trip.

Also recently Nick said that when he was sadposting on twitter he was usually doing it to get the attention of a particular person.

Btw @HeyU if you are kinda new to Nick's Jaden insanity I recommend listening to his stream convo with Veyta I archived here. it's an underrated like 1.5 hours pure crazy ex ranting about Nick owning Jaden by not making eye contact with him and 'breaking the snap streak'.

Thank you! I’ll listen. That is weird that right after that, he acted super depressed. I’m working on a project right now that requires a lot of time and this shit is what gets me thru it,
it's interesting that this trip was the final straw for Jaden and afterwards Nick is depression posting on twitter:
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"been completely isolated for two full weeks now" on Nov 29th just about 2 full weeks post-New York trip.

Also recently Nick said that when he was sadposting on twitter he was usually doing it to get the attention of a particular person.

Btw @HeyU if you are kinda new to Nick's Jaden insanity I recommend listening to his stream convo with Veyta I archived here. it's an underrated like 1.5 hours pure crazy ex ranting about Nick owning Jaden by not making eye contact with him and 'breaking the snap streak'.
that is weird! The timing. I wonder if he was all depressed for those couple weeks after because Jaden started acting colder towards him.

UPDATE: I just finished listening to it and it’s amazing lol, he literally treats Veyda like his therapist and literally talks about Jaden like it was a breakup. You can tell he’s analyzed this in his head inside and out, complete with timelines and what lead up to it (the AFPak dinner, where he gave him the cold shoulder, then, when Jaden knocked on his hotel door after they got swatted, Nick didn’t let him in, he just opened the door a tad, etc.). What makes it even more obvious is Simon basically did the same thing as Jaden, but Nick barely has a word to say about Simon other than “he was lazy, he was full of excuses, he’s incompetent, he got mad after he saw footage of me smirking at somebody calling him an oaf,” blah blah blah. But with Jaden, it’s like he goes back and forth between trying to convince himself he’s better off without him, missing him and feeling hurt by the betrayal…all in the course of 2 and a half hours, right on the stream. Lol. This is textbook still-getting-over-a-breakup behavior lol.
And after a while, Veyda changes the subject and asks Nick if he wants to hang out sometime before Vegas and Nick dismissively says, “maybe, we’ll see,” then proceeds to continue talking about Jaden. It seems like he just needs an ear to vent about it all, he doesn’t care who it is, which is also common for people who are burned and still trying to process the breakup.
Do you think Veyda is thinking the same thing we are? Haha
 
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jaden dropping some stuff in the RPG chat now, I just tuned in
I was waiting to see if you'd add anything before commenting on this because I didn't screenshot it. Anyways, I entered for a minute and saw another comment along the lines of "I don't know about anal, but I heard about the Uber bj." Unfortunately, the channel doesn't have live chat play back, so I'mma say don't take that as gospel and I might have misread it, just wanted to get it down before I forget.
 
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