Artcow WogglebugLoveProductions / Cynthia Hanson / Cherie Anne Hapney - One Womanchild's Fruitless Quest to Make Her Cockroach Husbando a Household Name

[Spastic Cologne]

Chris's Apology About Me

This is meant to convince us that you are and always have been in the right with how you conduct yourself?
That the Oz fandom is what you say they are and that you are somehow some kind of underdog hero in all this?
If so, I mean, just no...

Those poor people, the second hand embarrassment is palpable...

From what I read It would appear they very kindly welcomed you into their friendly supportive community only for you to then chimp the fuck out like a child (what's new) when they didn't totally agree with you by very inoffensively and casually critiquing your objectively terrible fan fiction, on their fucking site!
And to then shit talk them! A decade on! The fuck is wrong with you?!
Plus side, years on I almost guarantee that all involved have completely forgotten about any of this quagmire of cringe, moving on with their lives free from that crazy ass obsessive bug woman, well almost everyone...

It seems every professional relationship you bumble into is doomed to a similar cycle of introduction, awkward collaboration, atomic sperg out over something ridiculously minor (ie Woggie doesn't have blue arms/isn't gay!) and the inevitable messy implosion and subsequent total collapse of what was always a one sided "friendship" built entirely on you getting your way and take take taking others kindness and generosity while they expect and receive nothing in return, selflessly helping you with your moribund projects while you pay them less than peanuts, only for you to then put them on your ever expanding enemies list when they inevitably have had enough of babying you, calling out your petulant bullshit and refusal to compromise, innovate, adapt and improve, only for you to then freak the fuck out again and play the victim with tub after tub of ice cream and countless Walmart microwavable frozen pies, badmouthing your former collaborators for all eternity to anybody unfortunate enough to be unwittingly wrangled into helping you, unaware that they themselves are getting into the very same cycle of insanity/inanity that befell their predecessors, being trapped in that damn ouroboros of a working relationship, playing the whole damn scenario over and over again with the exact same sequence of ludicrous events and disastrous results until they too become your former colleagues who left the project to maintain their fragile sanity and whats left of their integrity, that or the sweet embrace of death, whatever comes first, a Wogglehog Day if you will...
Due to your inability to recognize patterns and the concept that you and your opinions may in fact not be totally infallible this scenario will perpetually play out as the day is long and the Wogglebug is homosexual...

What did that one guy mean by " her little outburst on this forum" I wonder?
Do you have an archive of that?

It's your complete lack of a basic understanding of the concept of professionalism that has and will continue to have a crippling effect on whatever mynute chance of success you may have, outside of your bedroom and fantasies that is Cherie, break the cycle...

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

See, this is the true oddness of Cynthia. She’s capable of parroting the fact that Wogglebug and Oz aren’t real, but she writes and acts like she’s discovered the secret truth of a real place and person. Gregory Maguire doesn’t talk like Frank L. Baum was slandering Elphaba, because he knows Elphaba is his own, alternate take on the Wicked Witch of the West. Well, that and Elphaba is more based on the movie version than the book, even if Maquire draws on the other Oz books for setting flavour and characters, but at this point I’m just sperging.

I don't care if it is disrespectful. That is in a way the point of it. The Wogglebug is a sweetheart and a hero. And the other characters around him suck. It was really them who were the ignorant and arrogant bastards the whole time and not him. Even if he wasn't in that book or series at all I still wouldn't have liked those characters as they were. I really do think that the Wogglebug is superior enough to them that he has a right to insult them, and so do I.

Not “My Wogglebug is a sweetheart and a hero” but “The Wogglebug.” As though hers is the original, or the definitive article. Or worse, that she thinks there’s some actual, platonic ideal of Wogglebug, independent of what people may write about him. I’m sure Cynthia will deny this like she has before, but whatever she says, she acts like she believes the Wogglebug is a real creature who Frank Baum and his successors imprisoned in their false narratives. She’s regularly referred to the Wogglebug being imprisoned and drugged in the Royal College of Oz as though that’s clearly evident from reading the original books, and not some crazy bullshit she made up.

To sum up, I love 50 foot tall firebreathing gay Wogglebug, but in the unlikely chance I ever do a modern Oz book, I’m totally just going to write the original Wogglebug, but with a slow handmaiden with a clearly delusional view of the guy. Think Hermione Granger and Gilderoy Lockhart, if Hermione never saw through him and also had several developmental disorders,

 

[WogglebugLover]

This is meant to convince us that you are and always have been in the right with how you conduct yourself?
That the Oz fandom is what you say they are and that you are somehow some kind of underdog hero in all this?
If so, I mean, just no...

Those poor people.
The second hand embarrassment is palpable...
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From what I read It would appear they very kindly welcomed you into their friendly supportive community only for you to then chimp the fuck out like a child (what's new) when they didn't totally agree with you by very inoffensively and casually critiquing your objectively terrible fan fiction, on their fucking site!
And to then shit talk them! A decade on!
Plus side, years on I almost guarantee that all involved have completely forgotten about any of this quagmire of cringe, moving on with their lives free from that crazy ass obsessive bug woman, well almost everyone...

It seems every professional relationship you bumble into is doomed to a similar cycle of introduction, awkward collaboration, atomic sperg out over something ridiculously minor (ie Woggie doesn't have blue arms/isn't gay!) and the inevitable messy implosion and subsequent total collapse of what was always a one sided "friendship" built entirely on you getting your way and take take taking others kindness and generosity while they expect and receive nothing in return, selflessly helping you with your moribund projects while you pay them less than peanuts, only for you to then put them on your ever expanding enemies list when they inevitably have had enough of babying you, calling out your petulant bullshit and refusal to compromise, innovate, adapt and improve, only for you to then freak the fuck out again and play the victim with tub after tub of ice cream and countless Walmart microwavable frozen pies, badmouthing them for all eternity to anybody unfortunate enough to be unwittingly starting the whole damn thing over again with the exact same sequence of ludicrous events and disastrous results every time for all eternity...
Due to your inability to recognize patterns and the concept that you and your opinions may in fact not be totally infallible this scenario will perpetually play out as the day is long and the Wogglebug is homosexual...

What did that one guy mean by " her little outburst on this forum" I wonder?
Do you have an archive of that?

It's your complete lack of a basic understanding of the concept of professionalism that has and will continue to have a crippling effect on whatever mynute chance of success you may have, outside of your bedroom and fantasies that is Cherie, break the cycle...

Are you saying I should regret leaving those people? I have absolutely no regrets of it. Getting involved with them in the first place was totally a mistake to begin with that shouldn't have happened.

And no, I don't have an archive of the thread I started when I announced on those forums I was leaving it. My original plan when I first conceived my dream was to just not have anything whatsoever to do with Oz in my career. Which might have been for the best.

And the Wogglebug is certainly not homosexual.

 

[Spastic Cologne]

Are you saying I should regret leaving those people?

Yeah I'm sure they would have been overjoyed to have you return after the way you behaved, welcoming you back with open arms....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
No you fucking self absorbed obsessive delusional conceited nut!
I'm saying you should regret treating people like shit and learn how to learn from your fuck ups!
The fucking audacity and expectation you have that people should continue to kiss your morbid ass years after you flipped out on them, never letting go of petty grudges and arguments, arguments where you were clearly in the wrong anyway!
I mean it's the behavior of an actual lunatic!

Why did you bring up that ancient archive to begin with?
It paints you as a deranged inconsiderate kook harassing the Oz fans yet again.
Can't fault it's accuracy but what do you think it proves?
That you didn't throw a huge tantrum and embarrass everyone involved making them regret giving you the benefit of the doubt as a mature adult who could behave in a group of mature adults?
Again, just no...

Your complete lack of self awareness and total disregard for people other than you and your imaginary friends is fucking shameful!

Straight up (unlike Woggle), when was the last time you did anything for someone other than yourself?
Bonus points if you did it out of the goodness of your heart without expecting any sort of payment or boon.
Bet you can't think of a single instance.
I'll wait...

 

[Puddleduck]

And the Wogglebug is certainly not homosexual

If he's not gay, why does he keep making love to Frogman?

 

[s0mbra]

If he's not gay, why does he keep making love to Frogman?

Personally, with all the anti homosexual behavior, I worry Cheri's new gf will get the wrong idea

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

I really can’t imagine hating the Tin Man so much. Not only is he the nicest man in the world, he’ll also kill the shit out of forty wolves if they try to mess with his friends:

"This is my fight," said the Woodman, "so get behind me and I will meet them as they come."

He seized his axe, which he had made very sharp, and as the leader of the wolves came on the Tin Woodman swung his arm and chopped the wolf's head from its body, so that it immediately died. As soon as he could raise his axe another wolf came up, and he also fell under the sharp edge of the Tin Woodman's weapon. There were forty wolves, and forty times a wolf was killed, so that at last they all lay dead in a heap before the Woodman.

Then he put down his axe and sat beside the Scarecrow, who said, "It was a good fight, friend."

They waited until Dorothy awoke the next morning. The little girl was quite frightened when she saw the great pile of shaggy wolves, but the Tin Woodman told her all. She thanked him for saving them and sat down to breakfast, after which they started again upon their journey.

This is a great sequence. Not only because it’s insanely metal for a children’s book, but in its construction as well. The rhythm is great, perfect for reading aloud at bedtime. The prose is simple, but just complex enough that the children it’s aimed at will probably have to think about it, which aids retention and encourages a deeper enjoyment of the text. The scene is relatively intense and has stakes, but it isn’t overly graphic. It strikes a balance between making it clear that Dorothy‘s journey is perilous, but also shows that she has dependable friends who’ll protect her. It creates the right amount of tension for a children’s book, is what I’m saying.

Cynthia could really do with learning from Baum, and the generations of children’s authors after him. She clearly thinks she’s making films and shit for the whole family, but her work is devoid of nuance or texture. Compare any of her movies to Harry Potter, or Artemis Fowl, or for something that skewers very slightly younger, but I still found enjoyable and well constructed read as an adult, The 100 Cupboards. All of those books have way darker shit than most anything Frank L. Baum wrote, and they’re all quite well received by their audiences.

 

[Force and Character]

There's worrying news that men of the homosexual persuasion are highly at risk from the monkeypox epidemic. I hope that both Wogglebug and Frogman use extensive protection when engaging in gay sex, or else Genoma may soon see its first outbreak.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

Eh, one’s an amphibian, the other’s an insect—wait, the Professor fused him with his cum, maybe Woggle does need to take precautions.

 

[pickle_boy]

*me after reading this thread*

 

[Andrew Neiman]

The Wogglebug is a sweetheart and a hero. And the other characters around him suck. It was really them who were the ignorant and arrogant bastards the whole time and not him.

To be honest, I think the series would have been much more successful if they had scrapped the clunky and boring title "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" and replaced it with the far catchier title "The Great and Best Wogglebug of Genoma."

All the other characters SUPPORTS HOMOSEXUALITY and therefore should not be considered appropriate for children's media. The Wogglebug is a great family-friendly inspiration for kids and teaches them only to follow a healthy and positive lifestyle. All the other characters engage in PERVERSE AND NOT NATURAL LIFESTYLES that should be kept away from the innocent eyes of children.

 

[Trashtaur]

I don't care if it is disrespectful. That is in a way the point of it. The Wogglebug is a sweetheart and a hero. And the other characters around him suck. It was really them who were the ignorant and arrogant bastards the whole time and not him. Even if he wasn't in that book or series at all I still wouldn't have liked those characters as they were. I really do think that the Wogglebug is superior enough to them that he has a right to insult them, and so do I.

Lol ok, if you say so.

But since i’m a total autist myself, allow me to provide a timeline of what the Wogglebug does and says in his first appearance to see if he’s really what you say he is.

1. The minute he shows up he immediately presents his card to everyone, and then gets snippy at the scarecrow after he politely asks him what his initials/titles mean.

2. Although the characters are polite about it, it’s more or less implied that he basically just interrupts their progress so he can tell them his backstory.

3. The group is never disrespectful towards him in his introduction and even invite him to come along.

4. Then he proceeds to insult Sawhorse and call him useless in a not so subtle play on words, all because he broke his leg.

5. Tip gets understandably pissed at this and tells him his joke was in poor taste: Wogglebug responds by more or less saying he’s wrong and that his jokes are amazing and flawless because he has a superior IQ, and that only smart people are capable of understanding and making good jokes.

6. He then proceeds to brag about his “great intelligence”, and when Tip criticizes him, Wogglebug basically just calls him retarded for not being “intelligent and educated” enough to understand his obviously superior sense of humor, and that he’s in no place to question him. And finally after that he insults Sawhorse with another shitty pun again.

This finally pisses everyone off and that’s when Nick and the Scarecrow basically tell him to STFU. I‘ll admit that Nick kinda overreacted but you get the idea.

So as you can see…the characters were nothing but courteous to Woggie until he started actively insulting them and deflecting when criticized. And even after this, they don’t kick him out or abuse him, he tags along with the characters for the rest of the book. The only thing Tip and co. did was establish boundaries with him, especially since he was making fun of the injured member of the group. They were sticking up for Sawhorse and nothing more.

and somehow you see that as some unspeakable crime?

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

It’s a bit like being a Eustace Scrubb fan, but only before he learns some humility.

 

[TapewormSalesman]

5. Tip gets understandably pissed at this and tells him his joke was in poor taste: Wogglebug responds by more or less saying he’s wrong and that his jokes are amazing and flawless because he has a superior IQ, and that only smart people are capable of understanding and making good jokes.

6. He then proceeds to brag about his “great intelligence”, and when Tip criticizes him, Wogglebug basically just calls him retarded for not being “intelligent and educated” enough to understand his obviously superior sense of humor, and that he’s in no place to question him. And finally after that he insults Sawhorse with another shitty pun again.

Shit, I never properly read the original Oz (I only had the Russian ripoff books), but the Wogglebug sounds even more like a fucking asshole, I thought he was just a pompous bufoon, but he's outright a cunt. This is probably why Cynthia falls for all those scammers, was she a more normal looking, less autistic woman, she'd probably get in an abusive relationship with the first schmuck who scream that he's right about everything hard enough.

 

[WogglebugLover]

Lol ok, if you say so.

But since i’m a total autist myself, allow me to provide a timeline of what the Wogglebug does and says in his first appearance to see if he’s really what you say he is.

1. The minute he shows up he immediately presents his card to everyone, and then gets snippy at the scarecrow after he politely asks him what his initials/titles mean.

2. Although the characters are polite about it, it’s more or less implied that he basically just interrupts their progress so he can tell them his backstory.

3. The group is never disrespectful towards him in his introduction and even invite him to come along.

4. Then he proceeds to insult Sawhorse and call him useless in a not so subtle play on words, all because he broke his leg.

5. Tip gets understandably pissed at this and tells him his joke was in poor taste: Wogglebug responds by more or less saying he’s wrong and that his jokes are amazing and flawless because he has a superior IQ, and that only smart people are capable of understanding and making good jokes.

6. He then proceeds to brag about his “great intelligence”, and when Tip criticizes him, Wogglebug basically just calls him retarded for not being “intelligent and educated” enough to understand his obviously superior sense of humor, and that he’s in no place to question him. And finally after that he insults Sawhorse with another shitty pun again.

This finally pisses everyone off and that’s when Nick and the Scarecrow basically tell him to STFU. I‘ll admit that Nick kinda overreacted but you get the idea.

So as you can see…the characters were nothing but courteous to Woggie until he started actively insulting them and deflecting when criticized. And even after this, they don’t kick him out or abuse him, he tags along with the characters for the rest of the book. The only thing Tip and co. did was establish boundaries with him, especially since he was making fun of the injured member of the group. They were sticking up for Sawhorse and nothing more.

and somehow you see that as some unspeakable crime?

I'll have you know I have read that book, and listened to an audiobook version of it because I loved Sheila Donald's performance as the Wogglebug, countless times and each time I was always confirmed in my opinions of him and everyone else. He was absolutely never rude to any of them at all. But throughout the story/journey they were nothing but not only rude but at times downright cruel to him. And it certainly was never his fault, either.

The fact is he just shouldn't be with them. And not for their sake but for entirely his own. He basically needs to have real friends who he has a lot more in common with. I mean as in ones that are actually meant to be alive like he is and have actual real hearts and brains and not fake ones bestowed on them by conman, or otherwise none at all. Which is why I took him out of Oz and put him into Genoma. And because I love him so much that I don't wish for him to be burdened by all of his bad memories of Oz I made it like he wasn't in Oz to begin with. His origins now take place in this new non-Oz fantasy land I created just for him. In Genoma science and education are considered the best things above magic, and Professor Knowitall is as big a celebrity there as the Wizard became in Oz, if not bigger. And Genoma is also in a dimension closer to our world than Oz ever was which makes it easier for him to become a hero in both worlds.

 

[Rabbit Bones]

Lol ok, if you say so.

But since i’m a total autist myself, allow me to provide a timeline of what the Wogglebug does and says in his first appearance to see if he’s really what you say he is.

1. The minute he shows up he immediately presents his card to everyone, and then gets snippy at the scarecrow after he politely asks him what his initials/titles mean.

2. Although the characters are polite about it, it’s more or less implied that he basically just interrupts their progress so he can tell them his backstory.

3. The group is never disrespectful towards him in his introduction and even invite him to come along.

4. Then he proceeds to insult Sawhorse and call him useless in a not so subtle play on words, all because he broke his leg.

5. Tip gets understandably pissed at this and tells him his joke was in poor taste: Wogglebug responds by more or less saying he’s wrong and that his jokes are amazing and flawless because he has a superior IQ, and that only smart people are capable of understanding and making good jokes.

6. He then proceeds to brag about his “great intelligence”, and when Tip criticizes him, Wogglebug basically just calls him retarded for not being “intelligent and educated” enough to understand his obviously superior sense of humor, and that he’s in no place to question him. And finally after that he insults Sawhorse with another shitty pun again.

This finally pisses everyone off and that’s when Nick and the Scarecrow basically tell him to STFU. I‘ll admit that Nick kinda overreacted but you get the idea.

So as you can see…the characters were nothing but courteous to Woggie until he started actively insulting them and deflecting when criticized. And even after this, they don’t kick him out or abuse him, he tags along with the characters for the rest of the book. The only thing Tip and co. did was establish boundaries with him, especially since he was making fun of the injured member of the group. They were sticking up for Sawhorse and nothing more.

and somehow you see that as some unspeakable crime?

I'm starting to understand why Cynthia latched onto this character. He's basically her, as a gay cockroach.

 

[Trashtaur]

I'll have you know I have read that book, and listened to an audiobook version of it because I loved Sheila Donald's performance as the Wogglebug, countless times and each time I was always confirmed in my opinions of him and everyone else. He was absolutely never rude to any of them at all. But throughout the story/journey they were nothing but not only rude but at times downright cruel to him. And it certainly was never his fault, either.

The fact is he just shouldn't be with them. And not for their sake but for entirely his own. He basically needs to have real friends who he has a lot more in common with. I mean as in ones that are actually meant to be alive like he is and have actual real hearts and brains and not fake ones bestowed on them by conman, or otherwise none at all. Which is why I took him out of Oz and put him into Genoma. And because I love him so much that I don't wish for him to be burdened by all of his bad memories of Oz I made it like he wasn't in Oz to begin with. His origins now take place in this new non-Oz fantasy land I created just for him. In Genoma science and education are considered the best things above magic, and Professor Knowitall is as big a celebrity there as the Wizard became in Oz, if not bigger. And Genoma is also in a dimension closer to our world than Oz ever was which makes it easier for him to become a hero in both worlds.

You say they were never his “real friends“, but have you ever stopped to think that maybe he was never a “real friend” to them either? He never takes any genuine interest in them as individuals and only really uses them as audience he can “teach” and lecture to. Hell, even his motivations for going with them are purely self-motivated - he only comes along with them to the Emerald City because he was already going there in the first place to give public lectures. So he doesn’t join them as a part of their cause, heck he doesn’t even really ask why they’re going there in the first place. He just goes along because it’s convenient for him - a means to an end.

It’s only when he later gets dragged into the chaos does he actually begin to get involved.

Also Oz is a country, not a “dimension” like you imply. It literally is in our world - its part of a whole fucking continent (along with several islands) on Earth, and was relatively easy to access until one of the later books where a magical barrier is placed around Oz…and even then it’s not that complicated to evade.

 

[WogglebugLover]

You say they were never his “real friends“, but have you ever stopped to think that maybe he was never a “real friend” to them either? He never takes any genuine interest in them as individuals and only really uses them as audience he can “teach” and lecture to. Hell, even his motivations for going with them are purely self-motivated - he only comes along with them to the Emerald City because he was already going there in the first place to give public lectures. So he doesn’t join them as a part of their cause, heck he doesn’t even really ask why they’re going there in the first place. He just goes along because it’s convenient for him - a means to an end.

It’s only when he later gets dragged into the chaos does he actually begin to get involved.

Also Oz is a country, not a “dimension” like you imply. It literally is in our world - its part of a whole fucking continent (along with several islands) on Earth, and was relatively easy to access until one of the later books where a magical barrier is placed around Oz…and even then it’s not that complicated to evade.

As far as I am concerned, he did indeed have the perfect right to not be their friend or take any genuine interest in them. Because he truly is, for the reasons I mentioned before and more, a totally superior character to the lot of them. And I know they were the real ignorant and arrogant bastards because for one thing they had been expecting to defeat General Jinjur and her Army of Revolt on their first attempt at it. That was why they didn't tell him about why they were going to the Emerald City in the first place. The fact is he not only had every right to know he had every right to appoint himself as their leader of the journey also if they had. I suppose his being their leader wouldn't have made them like him any more, and most likely even less if taht were possible. But I know the things I am saying are indeed the truth. And that is why he is the leader of at least most of the movies of my Genoma series.

 

[Andrew Neiman]

It's true. The Wogglebug is the supreme gentleman and those other characters are real ignorant and arrogant bastards.

 

[Smegma Gaming]

And Genoma is also in a dimension closer to our world than Oz ever was which makes it easier for him to become a hero in both.

Genoma is just Cherie's CWCVille, and Wogglecock is a happy escape for her, as is Sonichu for Chris Chan. The similarities between them are uncanny, even the whole 'WOGGLEBUG IS STRAIGHT!!' is incredibly similar to Christian's tard rage.

Cynthia do you intend to do anything unrelated to Wogglebug as a creative pursuit? Perhaps create a character unrelated to Oz, it could be good.