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Simping for an authoritarian regime to own the libs.

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The Southwest Strangla said:
look at the first guy pfp. he's old, im sure has no wife, and is upset with life. daddy trump is the only thing he has left. also, congress has the power to investigate. he's just a sad old man. lol
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By proxy, he should have also been against the Bill Clinton impeachment hearings as well. But I'm going to guess he was a OK with those hearings.
 
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AmazingEagle said:
Simping for an authoritarian regime to own the libs.

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..and also the Bratva, cigarettes that will take years off of your life with each puff, krokodil, violence, mass corruption, porn so vile it would make Epstein throw up, no freedom of speech whatsoever, and chronic depression EVERYWHERE.
 
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AmazingEagle said:
Simping for an authoritarian regime to own the libs.

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"beautiful women" oh come on, this has to be fake lmao
Russia is a shit hole. due to the war, their economy is fuckin' shit now. hell, it wasn't really good to begin with. it's sad that the same people who feared the reds are now worshiping them.
 
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The Southwest Strangla said:
it's sad that the same people who feared the reds are now worshiping them.
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Because they're not Reds anymore. Putin's a good capitalist, just like Trump, and they know that full well. They know they have nothing to fear behind his use of Soviet symbols, because he doesn't believe in the ideology behind them.

Of course, I've heard there's a genuine, full-scale revival of Marxism going on over there...
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
Because they're not Reds anymore. Putin's a good capitalist, just like Trump, and they know that full well. They know they have nothing to fear behind his use of Soviet symbols, because he doesn't believe in the ideology behind them.

Of course, I've heard there's a genuine, full-scale revival of Marxism going on over there...
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I’m sure Putin misses the Soviet Union. Hell, a shit ton of their laws are the same
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
It's interesting how the first thing we see is the emblem of the Ukrainian SSR, isn't it?
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It makes sense if you consider Putin's position that Ukraine is part of Russia.


The Southwest Strangla said:
"beautiful women" oh come on, this has to be fake lmao
Russia is a shit hole. due to the war, their economy is fuckin' shit now. hell, it wasn't really good to begin with. it's sad that the same people who feared the reds are now worshiping them.
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Apparently it's real. There's already at least 3 parodies:
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3rd (this one is notable for the baldy overlooking the 'beautiful women', he was Armchair Warlord until he nuked his twitter)
 
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The Southwest Strangla said:
I’m sure Putin misses the Soviet Union. Hell, a shit ton of their laws are the same
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No, he doesn't. Do you think he wants central planning back? Why do you think he blamed Lenin and Stalin for expanding Ukraine? If anything, he wants the Russian Empire back.

mofu mofo said:
Apparently it's real. There's already at least 3 parodies:
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3rd (this one is notable for the baldy overlooking the 'beautiful women', he was Armchair Warlord until he nuked his twitter)
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Initially I thought it was satire. Maybe it wasn't?
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
No, he doesn't. Do you think he wants central planning back? Why do you think he blamed Lenin and Stalin for expanding Ukraine? If anything, he wants the Russian Empire back.
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Another point on this as well; I hate the soviet union, but for all its faults, central planning did mean that the average person was nominally protected in a material sense. The state provided housing, employment, food, simple commodities, etc. for everyone almost indiscriminately. If soviet style central planning came back, it would mean all of Putin's buddies couldn't keep plundering the country and its workers nearly as hard for everything they're worth. The Soviet Union is why Russia even has oligarchs today. All the higher echelons of the party essentially sold off tons of state enterprise assets to make a pretty penny when the economic shock therapy kicked in. That's honestly what confuses me when people accuse Putin of wanting the USSR back, it's probably the last thing he wants when it would force the owners of these companies to actually produce something for the average Russian.
 
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Romper Stomper said:
Another point on this as well; I hate the soviet union, but for all its faults, central planning did mean that the average person was nominally protected in a material sense. The state provided housing, employment, food, simple commodities, etc. for everyone almost indiscriminately. If soviet style central planning came back, it would mean all of Putin's buddies couldn't keep plundering the country and its workers nearly as hard for everything they're worth. The Soviet Union is why Russia even has oligarchs today. All the higher echelons of the party essentially sold off tons of state enterprise assets to make a pretty penny when the economic shock therapy kicked in. That's honestly what confuses me when people accuse Putin of wanting the USSR back, it's probably the last thing he wants when it would force the owners of these companies to actually produce something for the average Russian.
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Putin's fanboys don't want you to remember this - what with all the "He delivered Russia out of misery!" stuff - but he helped Yeltsin plunder the country and store its money in London banks back in the 90s. That's how he got in good with old Rednose Boris, and why he was chosen to succeed him.
 
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Romper Stomper said:
Another point on this as well; I hate the soviet union, but for all its faults, central planning did mean that the average person was nominally protected in a material sense. The state provided housing, employment, food, simple commodities, etc. for everyone almost indiscriminately. If soviet style central planning came back, it would mean all of Putin's buddies couldn't keep plundering the country and its workers nearly as hard for everything they're worth. The Soviet Union is why Russia even has oligarchs today. All the higher echelons of the party essentially sold off tons of state enterprise assets to make a pretty penny when the economic shock therapy kicked in. That's honestly what confuses me when people accuse Putin of wanting the USSR back, it's probably the last thing he wants when it would force the owners of these companies to actually produce something for the average Russian.
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I always considered the "Bring back USSR" line to mean return Russia to its status as a leering, dominant power in Europe and Asia. One strong enough to contest the US, but also be able to assert itself over China in the Asia-Pacific. Becoming a viable alternative to Chinese style autocracy and American imperialism. And he has sort of been successful in Central Asia, propping up the governments there with trade agreements.

But it's clear that as per the need to intervene in Belarus, and the fact they've been stuck in Ukraine for five months with no real gains, that this dream is at an end. And Russia's only real advantage is soft-power and underhandedness in the West to allow it to expand. You know, the bot farms, and all the money they funnel into the Populist Right in Europe and the Anglosphere.
 
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Admiral Piett said:
I always considered the "Bring back USSR" line to mean return Russia to its status as a leering, dominant power in Europe and Asia. One strong enough to contest the US, but also be able to assert itself over China in the Asia-Pacific. Becoming a viable alternative to Chinese style autocracy and American imperialism. And he has sort of been successful in Central Asia, propping up the governments there with trade agreements.

But it's clear that as per the need to intervene in Belarus, and the fact they've been stuck in Ukraine for five months with no real gains, that this dream is at an end. And Russia's only real advantage is soft-power and underhandedness in the West to allow it to expand. You know, the bot farms, and all the money they funnel into the Populist Right in Europe and the Anglosphere.
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Russia really has no soft power. They could have had cultural soft power, but all the good stuff was done in the Tsarist and Soviet eras. The new capitalist Russia has very little to offer there. Even most Russians will tell you Soviet films were better and they vastly prefer what Hollywood puts out to their own modern studios. And, of course, the war in Ukraine blew all that up, so now they're stuck up shit creek.

What made Russia a dominant power when it was the USSR, incidentally, was that it had something to offer. Communism was, at the very least, something that promised to make people's lives better - and that's why they had great success in Africa and Asia, to America's irritation. But what does Putin's Russia have to offer? Nothing. As we see now in Ukraine, all it can offer is brutality under the guise of liberation.
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
Russia really has no soft power. They could have had cultural soft power, but all the good stuff was done in the Tsarist and Soviet eras. The new capitalist Russia has very little to offer there. Even most Russians will tell you Soviet films were better and they vastly prefer what Hollywood puts out to their own modern studios. And, of course, the war in Ukraine blew all that up, so now they're stuck up shit creek.

What made Russia a dominant power when it was the USSR, incidentally, was that it had something to offer. Communism was, at the very least, something that promised to make people's lives better - and that's why they had great success in Africa and Asia, to America's irritation. But what does Putin's Russia have to offer? Nothing. As we see now in Ukraine, all it can offer is brutality under the guise of liberation.
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But like....Russia is based though. That MUST count for something, right?!
 
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Romper Stomper said:
Another point on this as well; I hate the soviet union, but for all its faults, central planning did mean that the average person was nominally protected in a material sense. The state provided housing,
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That's true, one single house for 6 families. Problem solved.
 
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