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madethistocomment said:
They're absolutely deteriorating race relations. Not to powerlevel, but I'm probably one of the younger members of the site. When I grew up in the 2000s, I was completely colorblind, and so were pretty much all of my classmates. I did not notice that my best friends in indergarten were two Hispanic kids. I talked about how to do hair with the black girl in my class and swapped stylings tips and race never even crossed our minds, damn the fact that neither of our routines would work for the other lmfao. One of the girls in my class was adopted from China, and when she told us about it one day during show and tell we all thought it was super cool! But she wasn't different or the Chinese kid or anything like that. She was just Allie, the girl who was really good at drawing and loved reading and was very soft-spoken. We just saw each other as people and friends and nobody fucking cared what race anyone else was. Keep in mind that this was in the rural-rural Midwest. That's how far we'd come.

But after Trayvon Martin and especially after Michael Brown, that changed. I know that I, now a tween, started actually really noticing people's races, and everyone else around me started to, too. We didn't become like, KKK members or Black Panthers or La Raza or anything like that, we all still liked each other and hung out and didn't give a shit about race because it takes more than coastal propaganda to divide our community, but we started noticing it. Us kids who had grown up colorblind were now seeing stuff in Technicolor, and you can't reverse that no matter how hard you try.

These fuckers had what they claim to be dreaming of- an entire generation of kids who did not give one single fuck about race, who treated each other equally, who did not notice nor care that the person they were playing with was black or white or Hispanic or Asian, as long they were fun to be around and were good people. And they threw that into the garbage and lit it on fire. They're to blame for their own Hell- though I'd say this is what they've wanted all along.
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Well, there's nothing wrong with recognizing race, tbh, especially if you can still remain close despite it. Remember though, these people pushing this shit are grifters and mostly upper class wealthy white liberals. They don't want YOU to be color blind, they want you to fit the stereotype as closely as possible. They themselves don't regularly interact with the colored folk folx of color and it's to their benefit if there's division among you and your peers.
 
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madethistocomment said:
They're absolutely deteriorating race relations. Not to powerlevel, but I'm probably one of the younger members of the site. When I grew up in the 2000s, I was completely colorblind, and so were pretty much all of my classmates. I did not notice that my best friends in kindergarten were two Hispanic kids. I talked about how to do hair with the black girl in my class and swapped stylings tips and race never even crossed our minds, damn the fact that neither of our routines would work for the other lmfao. One of the girls in my class was adopted from China, and when she told us about it one day during show and tell we all thought it was super cool! But she wasn't different or the Chinese kid or anything like that. She was just Allie, the girl who was really good at drawing and loved reading and was very soft-spoken. We just saw each other as people and friends and nobody fucking cared what race anyone else was. Keep in mind that this was in the rural-rural Midwest. That's how far we'd come.

But after Trayvon Martin and especially after Michael Brown, that changed. I know that I, now a tween, started actually really noticing people's races, and everyone else around me started to, too. We didn't become like, KKK members or Black Panthers or La Raza or anything like that, we all still liked each other and hung out and didn't give a shit about race because it takes more than coastal propaganda to divide our community, but we started noticing it. Us kids who had grown up colorblind were now seeing stuff in Technicolor, and you can't reverse that no matter how hard you try.

These fuckers had what they claim to be dreaming of- an entire generation of kids who did not give one single fuck about race, who treated each other equally, who did not notice nor care that the person they were playing with was black or white or Hispanic or Asian, as long they were fun to be around and were good people. And they threw that into the garbage and lit it on fire. They're to blame for their own Hell- though I'd say this is what they've wanted all along.
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Thanks for sharing, and I agree it's especially absurd because they had what they claim to be seeking for so long and just didn't even capitalize on it. It almost begs the question of just how long they had it and what happened because idk even back in the early 90s as someone who had never even seen black people outside of TV, the first time I met a black kid in a new school the only thing that stood out to me was his name was weird but even then I didn't point it out or anything lol.

The Democrats have truly become something despicable when you consider things from an objective stance. Yes there are some shithead Repubs too I won't deny it. But it's like the Democrat mantra as a whole has been to embrace this whittling down of everything good about America till it's just gone.
 
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Ita Mori said:
Who cares? I call Trump a faggot half the time and criticize/mock his stupidity towards kikes, but damnit if I wouldn't rather be hosted by Trump with all you can eat McDonald's than any other lizardman in DC at an uptown estate.
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I love that picture of him, arms outstretched as he stands before a table covered in fast food.

People used to talk about having a beer with Dubya but I’d hit up Mickey D’s with Donnie.
 
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Keavy Rain said:
I love that picture of him, arms outstretched as he stands before a table covered in fast food.

People used to talk about having a beer with Dubya but I’d hit up Mickey D’s with Donnie.
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Liberals tried to shit on this but this is all people wanted, a level of contentment with their lives that the left demands no longer exist.
 
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madethistocomment said:
They're absolutely deteriorating race relations. Not to powerlevel, but I'm probably one of the younger members of the site. When I grew up in the 2000s, I was completely colorblind, and so were pretty much all of my classmates. I did not notice that my best friends in kindergarten were two Hispanic kids. I talked about how to do hair with the black girl in my class and swapped stylings tips and race never even crossed our minds, damn the fact that neither of our routines would work for the other lmfao. One of the girls in my class was adopted from China, and when she told us about it one day during show and tell we all thought it was super cool! But she wasn't different or the Chinese kid or anything like that. She was just Allie, the girl who was really good at drawing and loved reading and was very soft-spoken. We just saw each other as people and friends and nobody fucking cared what race anyone else was. Keep in mind that this was in the rural-rural Midwest. That's how far we'd come.

But after Trayvon Martin and especially after Michael Brown, that changed. I know that I, now a tween, started actually really noticing people's races, and everyone else around me started to, too. We didn't become like, KKK members or Black Panthers or La Raza or anything like that, we all still liked each other and hung out and didn't give a shit about race because it takes more than coastal propaganda to divide our community, but we started noticing it. Us kids who had grown up colorblind were now seeing stuff in Technicolor, and you can't reverse that no matter how hard you try.

These fuckers had what they claim to be dreaming of- an entire generation of kids who did not give one single fuck about race, who treated each other equally, who did not notice nor care that the person they were playing with was black or white or Hispanic or Asian, as long they were fun to be around and were good people. And they threw that into the garbage and lit it on fire. They're to blame for their own Hell- though I'd say this is what they've wanted all along.
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Millenial here, and for the most part it was the same here. I remember the fervor in 2008, people really were hoping his being elected would be a nice pin in the relations that had taken so long to heal However, Obama did his best to ruin it during his terms for one real reason...
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Occupy Wall Street started and had potential... The only way to stop it was via Ketchup.
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Occupy Wall Street. The banks got fucking terrified when the healing racial divisions meant that there could be unity between the lower class and the middle class. After all, those classes had gotten absolutely fucked over and people wanted blood. They immediately started deploying the progressive stack, the idea that your words meant less based on certain traits.

And it worked. Joe Schmoe that wanted to give the movement direction saw that the mic was getting taken over by fucking Ketchup of all things and left. The Uniparty took a massive breath of relief as they could ruin those race relations to keep eyes off them, and everything could be business as usual. Who would stop them? They had Obama as the perfect meatshield. Everything was back on track...

But then you had Trump coming in and saying 'you know what? America's great. We're great. And there's nothing wrong with loving what made America great.' And you had people on the Right flocking to that unifying idea to the point that it completely curbstomped that primary. Bernie Sanders promoted a similar idea of unity, but his message was weaker and the DNC had the superdelegate system to shut him out.

This idea of national unity, this idea that there is nothing wrong with taking pride in your country no matter your skin color is one of the largest reasons why Trump is someone that the Uniparty can not suffer.
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This image right here sums up the idea of Trump's America for me. It doesn't matter how fancy someone is, everyone can come to the table and share in with the bounty as America is still the greatest country on this planet. It's very understated but goddamn is it powerful. You will never see another president successfully channeling that energy if the Uniparty has their claws in them.
Abyssal Bulwark said:
Where did all this WW3 talk come from all of a sudden? I step away from this thread for a few hours, and now everyone's talking about it, same as /pol/. What did I miss? Did something actually pop off, or is it still just speculation based on the Pelosi plane thing?
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Long story short? Biden admin outright said 'lol we don't give a fuck about taiwan, they are not independent of china'.
 
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Abyssal Bulwark said:
Where did all this WW3 talk come from all of a sudden? I step away from this thread for a few hours, and now everyone's talking about it, same as /pol/. What did I miss? Did something actually pop off, or is it still just speculation based on the Pelosi plane thing?
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More saber rattling from China + Pelosi supposedly in Taiwan + Biden admin explicitly stating they don't consider Taiwan independent + Russia openly encouraging China with "Russia is with you" cutesy messages in Moscow + Biden swatting the pissed off Muslim hive. Sounds like a solid recipe for a happening to me.
 
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Abyssal Bulwark said:
Al Qaeda is not the Iranian government. Iran was closer to going to war with the US when Trump bombed that general, and yet nothing popped off.
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Nigga what are you on about?
I'm not saying Al Qaeda is a government I'm saying Biden killing their aged leader will probably piss them off enough to respond which could well produce a chain reaction or at least distract our attention enough for China to see an opening.
WW1 didn't start just because nations being pissed off at one another, there were catalyst actions by subgroups that weren't aligned with a national interest so much as their own ideology.
The same could theoretically play out if a bunch of pissed off camel fuckers decide Biden is weak enough for them to revive their terror network. Trump would have gleefully given the orders to glass them before they left the middle east. Bidens biggest win so far is now that he was able to drone strike a dying man who had already begun seeking his successor last year (there were discussions it could be one of bin Ladens kids)
 
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Biden: Drone strike on al-Qaida leader delivered 'justice'
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President Joe Biden on Monday confirmed that a U.S. drone strike in Afghanistan this weekend killed al-Qaida leader Ayman al-Zawahri, declaring “justice has been delivered.”

“This terrorist leader is no more,” Biden said in an evening speech from the White House.
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Biden said U.S. intelligence officials tracked al-Zawahri to a home in downtown Kabul where he was hiding out with his family. The president approved the operation last week and it was carried out on Sunday.

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WASHINGTON (AP) - A U.S. drone strike in Afghanistan this weekend killed Ayman al-Zawahri, who took over as al-Qaida leader after Osama bin Laden’s death in a U.S. raid. President Joe Biden was set to announce the killing Monday, delivering a significant counterterrorism win just 11 months after American troops left the country after a two-decade war.

The strike, carried out by the Central Intelligence Agency, was confirmed by five people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity before Biden was set to brief the American people on the details of the operation in a 7:30 p.m. EDT address to the nation.

Al-Zawahri’s loss eliminates the figure who more than anyone shaped al-Qaida, first as Osama bin Laden’s deputy since 1998, then as his successor. Together, he and bin Laden turned the jihadi movement’s guns to target the United States, carrying out the deadliest attack ever on American soil - the Sept. 11, 2001, suicide hijackings.

Current and former officials began hearing Sunday afternoon that al-Zawahri had been killed in a drone strike, but the administration delayed releasing the information until his death could be confirmed, according to one person.

White House officials declined to confirm al-Zawahri was killed but noted in a statement that the United States conducted a “successful” counterterrorism operation against a significant al-Qaida target, adding that "there were no civilian casualties.”

The house Al-Zawahri was in when he was killed was owned by a top aide to senior Taliban leader Sirajuddin Haqqani, according to a senior intelligence official. The official also added that a CIA ground team and aerial reconnaissance conducted after the drone strike confirmed al-Zawahri’s death. Planning for the operation began six months ago, but intensified in the last two months, the official said.

Over the 20-year war in Afghanistan, the U.S. targeted and splintered al-Qaida, sending leaders into hiding. But America’s exit from Afghanistan last September gave the extremist group the opportunity to rebuild. U.S. military officials, including Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have said that al-Qaida was trying to reconstitute in Afghanistan, where it faced limited threats from the now-ruling Taliban. Military leaders have warned that the group still aspired to attack the U.S.

The 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon made bin Laden America’s Enemy No. 1. But he likely could never have carried it out without his deputy. Bin Laden provided al-Qaida with charisma and money, but al-Zawahri brought tactics and organizational skills needed to forge militants into a network of cells in countries around the world.

Their bond was forged in the late 1980s, when al-Zawahri reportedly treated the Saudi millionaire bin Laden in the caves of Afghanistan as Soviet bombardment shook the mountains around them.

Zawahri, on the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorist list, had a $25 million bounty on his head for any information that could be used to kill or capture him.

Biden planned to speak from the balcony off the White House Blue Room as he remains in isolation in the residence while he continues to test positive for COVID-19.

Al-Zawhiri and bin Laden plotted the 9/11 attacks that brought many ordinary Americans their first knowledge of al-Qaida.

Photos from the time often showed the glasses-wearing, mild-looking Egyptian doctor sitting by the side of bin Laden. Al-Zawahiri had merged his group of Egyptian militants with bin Laden’s al-Qaida in the 1990s.

“The strong contingent of Egyptians applied organizational know-how, financial expertise, and military experience to wage a violent jihad against leaders whom the fighters considered to be un-Islamic and their patrons, especially the United States,” Steven A. Cook wrote for the Council on Foreign Relations last year.

When the 2001 U.S. invasion of Afghanistan demolished al-Qaida’s safe haven and scattered, killed and captured its members, al-Zawahri ensured al-Qaida’s survival. He rebuilt its leadership in the Afghan-Pakistan border region and installed allies as lieutenants in key positions.

He also reshaped the organization from a centralized planner of terror attacks into the head of a franchise chain. He led the assembling of a network of autonomous branches around the region, including in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, North Africa, Somalia, Yemen and Asia. Over the next decade, al-Qaida inspired or had a direct hand in attacks in all those areas as well as Europe, Pakistan and Turkey, including the 2004 train bombings in Madrid and the 2005 transit bombings in London.

More recently, the al-Qaida affiliate in Yemen proved itself capable of plotting attacks against U.S. soil with an attempted 2009 bombing of an American passenger jet and an attempted package bomb the following year.

But even before bin Laden’s death, al-Zawahri was struggling to maintain al-Qaida’s relevance in a changing Middle East.
He tried with little success to coopt the wave of uprisings that spread across the Arab world starting in 2011, urging Islamic hard-liners to take over in the nations where leaders had fallen. But while Islamists gained prominence in many places, they have stark ideological differences with al-Qaida and reject its agenda and leadership.

Nevertheless, al-Zawahri tried to pose as the Arab Spring’s leader. America “is facing an Islamic nation that is in revolt, having risen from its lethargy to a renaissance of jihad,” he said in a video eulogy to bin Laden, wearing a white robe and turban with an assault rifle leaning on a wall behind him.

Al-Zawahri was also a more divisive figure than his predecessor. Many militants described the soft-spoken bin Laden in adoring and almost spiritual terms.

In contrast, al-Zawahri was notoriously prickly and pedantic. He picked ideological fights with critics within the jihadi camp, wagging his finger scoldingly in his videos. Even some key figures in al-Qaida’s central leadership were put off, calling him overly controlling, secretive and divisive.

Some militants whose association with bin Laden predated al-Zawahri’s always saw him as an arrogant intruder.
“I have never taken orders from al-Zawahri,” Fazul Abdullah Mohammed, one of the network’s top figures in East Africa until his 2011 death, sneered in a memoir posted on line in 2009. “We don’t take orders from anyone but our historical leadership.”

Speaking on Aug. 31, 2021, after the last U.S. troops left Afghanistan, Biden said the U.S. would not let up on its fight against terrorism in that country or elsewhere.

“We will maintain the fight against terrorism in Afghanistan and other countries,” he said. “We just don’t need to fight a ground war to do it.” Previewing the strike that would occur 11 months later, Biden said at the time, “We have what’s called over-the-horizon capabilities, which means we can strike terrorists and targets without American boots on the ground - or very few, if needed.”

There have been rumors of al-Zawahri’s death on and off for several years. But a video surfaced in April of the al-Qaida leader praising a Indian Muslim woman who had defied a ban on wearing a hijab, or headscarf. That footage was the first proof in months that he was still alive.

A statement from Afghanistan’s Taliban government confirmed the airstrike, but did not mention al-Zawahri or any other casualties.

It said it “strongly condemns this attack and calls it a clear violation of international principles and the Doha Agreement,” the 2020 U.S. pact with the Taliban that led to the withdrawal of American forces.

“Such actions are a repetition of the failed experiences of the past 20 years and are against the interests of the United States of America, Afghanistan, and the region,” the statement said.
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