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the fall of man said:
It definitely doesn't hurt the Establishment dems, before the midterms, to make a show of force to China.
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Your premise is flawed, it actually does hurt. Or more specifically it gets negated. When major domestic issues are at their apex the population views foreign gestures like this negatively. Any gain is rendered moot and just cancels out. Which is why I say long-term it hurts as this doesn't give any positive movement meaning the status quo, which is seeing the Democrats lose their grasp on power, continues as is.
 
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Until tomorrow evening when she's supposed to leave, i'll asume that anything can happen, stupid speech, stupid claims, more fighter jets, missile attacks?

But to be fair, It's not what they will do, understandable concern is that any tension rising like this can spiral out of control. This is the dumbest fucking move i have seen in some time
 
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Gehenna said:
Your premise is flawed, it actually does hurt. Or more specifically it gets negated. When major domestic issues are at their apex the population views foreign gestures like this negatively. Any gain is rendered moot and just cancels out. Which is why I say long-term it hurts as this doesn't give any positive movement meaning the status quo, which is seeing the Democrats lose their grasp on power, continues as is.
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That's fair, I was considering this mostly on economic / foreign relations terms. It certainly doesn't make me more inclined to vote Democrat while we have 9.2% inflation.
 
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mandatorylurk said:
Let Joe Kent use righteous anger to smite his enemies enough they trans out and 41%.
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I kinda doubt it. The R field is way too split up (5 candidates, only 3 running an appreciable amount of ads, principally targeting each other), and apparently the recommended candidate of the local R party apparatus is someone I didn't even know was running until less than a week ago.
 
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the fall of man said:
That's fair, I was considering this mostly on economic / foreign relations terms. It certainly doesn't make me more inclined to vote Democrat while we have 9.2% inflation.
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The effectiveness and public opinion of things can generally be understood as this:

When things are going bad internally, foreign relations and posturing are disliked and will lose support as people want their immediate issues addressed.
When things are going well internally, foreign relations and posturing is more likely to gain support as people like someone acting strong, so long as they have no other worries.

"It's the economy, stupid" stands above all.
 
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The Big O said:
I honestly give Trump more big-ups for taking down al-Baghdadi because of how much ISIS were bleeding out of the middle east with adherents and sleeper agents committing acts of terror across Europe, Australia, and the USA during the mid-2010s. They were a tangible danger compared to this obscure nobody that the Biden-led CIA seems to have killed. Good for them I guess, but I'm not impressed.

Agreed. What gives? PayPal have been acting like Super King Big Nuts in their political persecution of conservatives, but they seemingly yield to threat of litigation by DeSantis? They must really fear this dude despite him being just one (if arguably the ballsiest) state governor.
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Publicly traded corporations have a fiduciary duty to shareholders. Sacrificing profits for political objectives is actually illegal under US law, but corporations have been getting away with it for years due to those sorts of lawsuits being primarily filed primarily by competitors against each other. Supposedly, you've got Republican attorneys now exploring how to sue the shit out of lib-run corporations for failing to pursue profits. The standard of proof is really high in such cases, and there was an Obama-era rule change on "reputational harm" that gave corporations legal cover to pursue liberal politics, but "we don't do business in Florida because we don't want to comply with non-discrimination laws" is probably one of those cases where the litigants would have a good shot at taking PayPal to the cleaners.
 
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madethistocomment said:
They're absolutely deteriorating race relations. Not to powerlevel, but I'm probably one of the younger members of the site. When I grew up in the 2000s, I was completely colorblind, and so were pretty much all of my classmates. I did not notice that my best friends in kindergarten were two Hispanic kids. I talked about how to do hair with the black girl in my class and swapped stylings tips and race never even crossed our minds, damn the fact that neither of our routines would work for the other lmfao. One of the girls in my class was adopted from China, and when she told us about it one day during show and tell we all thought it was super cool! But she wasn't different or the Chinese kid or anything like that. She was just Allie, the girl who was really good at drawing and loved reading and was very soft-spoken. We just saw each other as people and friends and nobody fucking cared what race anyone else was. Keep in mind that this was in the rural-rural Midwest. That's how far we'd come.

But after Trayvon Martin and especially after Michael Brown, that changed. I know that I, now a tween, started actually really noticing people's races, and everyone else around me started to, too. We didn't become like, KKK members or Black Panthers or La Raza or anything like that, we all still liked each other and hung out and didn't give a shit about race because it takes more than coastal propaganda to divide our community, but we started noticing it. Us kids who had grown up colorblind were now seeing stuff in Technicolor, and you can't reverse that no matter how hard you try.

These fuckers had what they claim to be dreaming of- an entire generation of kids who did not give one single fuck about race, who treated each other equally, who did not notice nor care that the person they were playing with was black or white or Hispanic or Asian, as long they were fun to be around and were good people. And they threw that into the garbage and lit it on fire. They're to blame for their own Hell- though I'd say this is what they've wanted all along.
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I agree that race relations have deteriorated but at the same time, prepubescent kids who don't see race grow into preteens who start to self-segregate and teenagers who only eat lunch and date members of their own race no matter what the ideological environment is. You have to actively socially engineer teenagers out of doing this if you want to forge a shared national identity out of a multiracial population, by making them all do national service or something.

I do agree that things were way better in the 90s and oughts but even if all the racial grandstanding hadn't happened, you probably would have still started noticing races at the same age.
 
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Thomas Talus said:
I kinda doubt it. The R field is way too split up (5 candidates, only 3 running an appreciable amount of ads, principally targeting each other), and apparently the recommended candidate of the local R party apparatus is someone I didn't even know was running until less than a week ago.
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So basically what you're saying is Jaime Herrera is going to win again?

Well the good news is she actually gets legislation passed unlike certain other latinas in congress
 
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Sad Crusader said:
THAT FED IS NOT A FUCKING SOURCE. STOP WITH THE "ACCORDING TO POSO" BULLSHIT, DICK KNOB.
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I've said it before, but the man is the physical embodiment of the rumor mill. He should be listened to and promptly ignored most of the time. He often has news days early. He also often has complete bullshit.
 
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