George RR Martin, his fanboys, and former fanbase

Hasn't Preston Jacobs gone on rants over Linda because she upsets his SJW sensibilities? I used to think his videos were entertaining just for how fucking out there and over analyzed everything got, but once he started doing podcasts/livestreams he got a little too spergy and faggy for my tastes.

Is Jacobs considered a "fanboy" anymore? He seemed pretty annoyed with George and HBO last time I paid attention.
A big majority of ASOIAF fans are SJWs because that's a rule for most online communities. I know the ones who aren't PC, and they aren't a small number, but they aren't very open and definitely don't hang around Westeros.org because the site is fully possed.
 
I would like to know more.
I feel like it was on one of his podcasts with the guy with the Haunter avatar, but I'm not willing to look through them to find out if I'm misremembering or what. It seems like something he'd do after I saw him basically say real women don't matter next to trans women, but I might be misremembering how upset he actually was.
 
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A big majority of ASOIAF fans are SJWs because that's a rule for most online communities. I know the ones who aren't PC, and they aren't a small number, but they aren't very open and definitely don't hang around Westeros.org because the site is fully possed.
The majority of ASOIAF fans online are liberal faggots. But most actual fans are probably moderate or even conservative. They just cannot post their opinions online because some kike will "deplatform" them. Try posting that niggers should not be portraying Targaryens. Even in a diplomatic way. And you will be banned or downvoted into oblivion. Nothing can disturb the echo chamber. No debates no matter what. The science is settled.

Try talking about race swapped characters in ASOIAF adaptations or Dune or LOTR or whatever. Or gender swapping and other changes. You cannot even have an honest discussion anywhere online that is not a small private forum like this. I would bet that Linda's opinion about mudblood Targaryens probably is in line with the overwhelming majority of hardcore ASOIAF fans and Game of Thrones fans. This is why the dislike button is gone on YouTube and censorship is so prevalent on places like Reddit. To mask what the majority really feel. Because it would go against the approved narrative.

Westeros.org forums are hilarious in that when Game of Thrones first came out ultra hardcore ASOIAF fans were shitting all over the show's first season. Talking about how the characters' personalities were clearly changed. Talking about how Ros the whore character was absurd with how she was thrown into scenes with so many main characters. Talking about how the midget actor was awful and his accent was pathetic. Criticizing the weird rape vibe that Danaerys and Drogo's wedding night was compared to the books where he is gentle and seduces her because he knows she is terrified and nervous. Early criticism of the show was basically asking for the ban hammer. I remember people getting attacked when they criticized the changing of names of various characters even.

And criticizing AFFC or ADWD was basically a death penalty on the site. It became a place to worship GRRM especially with the owners having a business relationship with him. After people soured on Game of Thrones and GRRM's procrastination the damage had already been done. The forum was pretty much dead and people migrated to other platforms or just stopped caring about ASOIAF altogether. Instead of people coming back to the site to finally have a place to analyze the faults of GRRM's writing and the HBO show they never turned back.

But I disagree that hardcore ASOIAF fans are liberal fag types. The overwhelming majority of opinions I have seen were against Arya killing the Night's King. Against Bran becoming King. And seemed to want Jon to kill the Night's King and take the throne. The traditional White male protagonist like Luke Skywalker finding his true lineage and saving the world with a flaming sword (lightsaber). Not the pretentious subverting expectations garbage where ugly midgets and teenage girls are wiping the floor with immortal demons and dominating politics.
 
Hasn't Preston Jacobs gone on rants over Linda because she upsets his SJW sensibilities? I used to think his videos were entertaining just for how fucking out there and over analyzed everything got, but once he started doing podcasts/livestreams he got a little too spergy and faggy for my tastes.

Is Jacobs considered a "fanboy" anymore? He seemed pretty annoyed with George and HBO last time I paid attention.
Which I find fucking hilarious because there’s this theory video in which he pulls an Apu tier accent to read Daario lines. I think it was one of the Greyjoy ones.
 
Which I find fucking hilarious because there’s this theory video in which he pulls an Apu tier accent to read Daario lines. I think it was one of the Greyjoy ones.
I'm sure Preston has no actual convictions and just follows the crowd so that he can feel popular/superior to others, probably due to a resentment he still carries from being a dweeb in high school.

It's the only way my brain can understand how someone can say that the majority of women don't matter compared to few/single trans woman, at least.

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I remember many fans were very harsh about these two books, specially Brianne chapters. I can't remember anyone banned for criticising the book, tbh.
Whats funny is the Brienne chapters are some of the best ones in AFFC because they faithfully follow the very basic trope of purehearted knight on a quest to save a maiden and the fake clever political plots within plots and other George fap topics are kept in the background or not brought up at all

Until it all goes to shit in the last Brienne chapter of course
 
I'm sure Preston has no actual convictions and just follows the crowd so that he can feel popular/superior to others, probably due to a resentment he still carries from being a dweeb in high school.

It's the only way my brain can understand how someone can say that the majority of women don't matter in the compared to a single trans woman, at least.
Self described Male Feminist sells out real women for a dude. News at 11.

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Preston is one of the few people who if I were to meet in person for any lengthy period of time I would likely despise, but who I thoroughly enjoy as a creator. I can't place exactly how much of what he talks about are Martian's politics (which I think he has pretty dead on) or his own. But a Feminist shitting on a woman and co author of his favorite series to back up weird fetishist who want to justify shoving black people in where they don't belong is pretty funny.

LOOK AT HIS EYES! HIS EYES!!!
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Preston Jacobs lacks the judgement to understand or predict the story. If GRRM wrote what Jacobs predicts, it would make Lindsay Ellis novels look good.

He is also obnoxiously arrogant about this and the show.
His problem comes from being the type of reader who thinks every single detail is a clue. Martin's clues and foreshadowing are very obvious, you don't need to break any code.
 
His problem comes from being the type of reader who thinks every single detail is a clue. Martin's clues and foreshadowing are very obvious, you don't need to break any code.
This is why Game of Thrones lead to some of the all time most hilarious reactions from fans. People obsessed over every little detail in the ASOIAF novels. Then others would point out how the foreshadowing and clues were actually very direct and basic. And that a simple repeated reading of the text would gain you as much knowledge and ability to predict future plots and events as much as obsessively studying wiki entries and taking detailed notes would. When Game of Thrones came out on HBO you had the same extreme attention to detail and specific aspects of the show. Where people were looking at every single frame. Imagining all sorts of elaborate and complex theories that would materialize or be realized in future episodes or seasons.

Stuff like the symbols and rituals that the Others (White Walkers) were making out of dead bodies. Fantasizing over elephants and horses and anti-dragon weaponry that the Golden Company would have. And then digging through every line of dialogue to predict who would be king of Westeros. So much of this stuff amounted to either nothing or some farcical twist. Like the beyond ridiculous, especially on rewatches (not that anyone will), King Bran the cripple with the "great" story. Or the almost legendary buildup of Jon Snow and the Night's King staring each other down outside of Hardhome. Only to have Arya pull some Star Wars hand switch with her dagger.

ASOIAF would reinvent their favorite characters and ignore the text. An example was Stannis. In the books and show he wants to burn royal blood alive. He wants to burn Edric Storm in the books and Renly on the show. Yet book readers were livid that the show had Stannis burn his daughter alive. He did what he always wanted to do. Burn someone of royal blood alive as a sacrifice to gain more power. But people swore that there was a deep secret code for Stannis's character that would contradict this. Yet pretty much every 'hated' outcome in Game of Thrones, that we have yet to see in ASOIAF officially, has been confirmed to come from GRRM. Like people still being in disbelief when the actor who played Bran confirmed that GRRM told him he could be king.
 
Amen.

The redditors were a particular case of this. Most people got into the novels after watching the show. Many never read such long novels before.

That is a big investment of time.

People wrote long theory essays, many being neat ideas but not fitting with the style of the author or good story telling.

That is a big investment of time.

People read these essays, also listened to epic series about them on Youtube.

That is a big investment of time.

Show kills that stone dead with a twist, and it suggests GRRM planned something similar, or at least that plot doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

That is a big investment of time. That was a huge waste of time.

So ... much raging - and coping by shitting on the show. This provided the pseudo-intellectual wing of the show backlash, and had been bubbling up for years. The non-intellectual wing was simple fans of specific characters - 'stans', and people who dreamed of specific romances - 'shippers' who did not get the outcomes they needed.
 
Then others would point out how the foreshadowing and clues were actually very direct and basic
The biggest example of this is in the start of the fifth book when Dany gets a full on prophecy dropped on her, which includes her meeting multiple characters that are explicitly described. Since there is no reason to believe it will be false at least until the ending, what happens in practice is that Dany and everyone else mentioned has god tier armor until their meeting, which none of happen in the book.

So at the end of the book, when Dany is defecating to death in the middle of nowhere, having lost everything she has conquered, at her lowest point, I just don't care. Because I know she will survive, fuck someone to get her position back and SLAY QUEEN her way to westeros to meet the requisite cast.
 
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