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GuntPunt said:
The rest of the vote out in Maricopa is apparently people who filled out their ballots and dropped them off on ED. Baris has stated this is a pro-Lake group.

Which makes sense. Bypass waiting in line while just giving the ballot to a drop box. Especially if you were a Trump Republican who thinks that voting in such high numbers on Election day to beat any potential possible fraud is the only way to win.
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Yeah that is what I was thinking too, Trump supporters wouldn't trust sending their ballots through the mail. Also a lot of vote still out as Pinal County just flipped Lake.
 
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Very good to see Kari Lake look like she is going to take the primary there in AZ. At the very least she and her team will try to fight back against election malfeasance in November if when it happens, and work to not get fucked over in the first place.
 
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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
The act of tyranny they spoke about was the coercive tax collection, I asked if it's possible to have a government that doesn't meddle in the personal lives of citizens while securing the border and he said no, the state has to be managerial to enforce the border, citing Ancient Rome as an example. It's one extreme or the other. I really have no idea how to argue against this other than bringing up the Laffer curve and how people tend to pay more taxes the less they're obligated to, and I've already played that card.

I thought about getting into the quagmire of arguing costs but he already made the corruption argument, that if border patrol were underpaid they'd just accept bribes anyway, but then if I argued that I could walk into the territory "corrupt no matter what."
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It is a framing issue. Every left leaning person has this idea in their head "I win, we move down the road to justice. I lose, then clearly fascism is on the march." Such framing is counter productive since it is all or nothing. This is why the cannot back down on anything.

It is also why they are anxiety riddled messes.
 
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Regarding the PACT Act, I decided to see what the NC Republican candidate for the US Senate had to say and the tweet speaks for itself. Now I'm wondering if he's playing the role of a MAGA Republican. Meanwhile his Democrat opponent has been running TV ads since July in my area while all I see for Ted Budd is a billboard ad that was paid for by an organization that supports him.
 
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The Nothingness said:
Regarding the PACT Act, I decided to see what the NC Republican candidate for the US Senate had to say and the tweet speaks for itself. Now I'm wondering if he's playing the role of a MAGA Republican. Meanwhile his Democrat opponent has been running TV ads since July in my area while all I see for Ted Budd is a billboard ad that was paid for by an organization that supports him.
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Budd's actually good, I swear.
 
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CarlosDanger said:
Yeah that is what I was thinking too, Trump supporters wouldn't trust sending their ballots through the mail. Also a lot of vote still out as Pinal County just flipped Lake.
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Exactly what I did. Dropped it off in person. That strategy seemed to have worked. As of this morning, say buh-bye Robson. Shame on you for trying to buy an election.

I was a little worried after my last post at 10 last night, but this morning, the sun does indeed rise here in AZ.

And the Trump train rolls on with a sweep of his candidates here. This has to have the Uniparty/RINOs shitting their britches. They're gonna pull out all stops now to keep him from running in 2024.

This morning's results with nearly 80% reporting:

 
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Slappy McGherkin said:
Exactly what I did. Dropped it off in person. That strategy seemed to have worked. As of this morning, say buh-bye Robson. Shame on you for trying to buy an election.

I was a little worried after my last post at 10 last night, but this morning, the sun does indeed rise here in AZ.

And the Trump train rolls on with a sweep of his candidates here. This has to have the Uniparty/RINOs shitting their britches. They're gonna pull out all stops now to keep him from running in 2024.

This morning's results with nearly 80% reporting:

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Let's see how you feel after the inevitable Maricopa shenanigans
 
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