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The problem is that now, liberals have a big win in a deep-Red state, and will be emboldened. This will have consequences in November.

Plus, most of the pro-abortion money came from outside of Kansas. They can now just flood any state they want with ads full of bullshit.
Make November about the economy and a referendum on Biden, while focusing less on abortion, and the consequences will be lessened. It’s the economy, stupid, and the republicans should stick to real issues that people care about.

Abortion is to the left what gun control is to the right. Having a clear ballot initiative about abortion is a serious motivator any way you slice it, and nothing gets the peeved women/young voters/wine aunts out to vote quite like this issue. Out-of-state money is less relevant- think about the masses of nationwide funding that were dumped into TX, and Beto still blew it. All the money in the world won’t make a difference if certain voting patterns are deeply ingrained in a certain area.

Also (speaking as someone who aligns *strongly* to the right), I’m not too broken up about it. I’ve long favored abortion, and what we witnessed was simply what we asked for vis-à-vis Roe getting nuked- give the states the power to regulate it themselves (unless that’s a lie, and, like the gun control crowd, the primary goal is to fully ban abortion while gaslighting that it isn’t). There are a lot of people out there who lean right and support abortion, and I wouldn’t be surprised if a fair number of republicans voted to keep the amendment to the state constitution.

The republicans *will* put themselves in danger of a less bountiful midterm if they throw a demoralized voting bloc red meat in the form of ballot initiatives like this.
 
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Sucks for all the pro-lifers who went on board with it to prevent legislative expansions on abortions.
It was simple: "there is no constitutional right to an abortion in Kansas".

Per the Kansas SC ruling in 2019, all abortion regulations (such as time limits, parental consent for minors, health inspection for abortions, etc) are "presumed unconstitutional". If Big Abortion wanted to sue over them, there would be no recourse to the contrary.

And then they could run a Kermit Gosnell Funhouse with impunity.
 
The problem is that now, liberals have a big win in a deep-Red state, and will be emboldened. This will have consequences in November.
I wouldn't want anyone to be "right" with it at all. The whole impetus for this shitshow was abortion being allowed with the sideline of "Safe, Legal, and Rare" as the compromise that was then abused to hell and back. Anyone who thinks the same abuse can't take place just because the states relatively red is ignorant of how we got to this situation in the first place.

Banning it is the solution when compromise and common sense has already shown itself to not be enough.
>libs get one win out of a day of MAGA Repubs annihilating RINOs
>said win consisted of deciding law about abortion in the state, which the Roe v. Wade reversal encourages in the first place
>"THIS MEANS THE DEMS ARE GONNA WIN AFTER ALL, WE'RE ALL DOOMED, AAAAAAAAAA"

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In case you've forgotten, nobody gives a shit about abortion now. That's precisely why the RvW reversal came and went with all of the fanfare of a wet fart. As @Pig Cups so eloquently stated, the economy is a much bigger issue at the moment. Focusing on this will ruin the enthusiasm that MAGA is generating right now, which would be absolutely fatal to any chance of not only overturning that Kansas law, but of this country ever getting out of this slump.
 
>libs get one win out of a day of MAGA Repubs annihilating RINOs
>said win consisted of deciding law about abortion in the state, which the Roe v. Wade reversal encourages in the first place
>"THIS MEANS THE DEMS ARE GONNA WIN AFTER ALL, WE'RE ALL DOOMED, AAAAAAAAAA"

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In case you've forgotten, nobody gives a shit about abortion now. That's precisely why the RvW reversal came and went with all of the fanfare of a wet fart. As @Pig Cups so eloquently stated, the economy is a much bigger issue at the moment. Focusing on this will ruin the enthusiasm that MAGA is generating right now, which would be absolutely fatal to any chance of not only overturning that Kansas law, but of this country ever getting out of this slump.
Literally the same reaction when Mike Flood didn't campaign, and that Nebraska special congressional race was close (not even but lol).
 
>libs get one win out of a day of MAGA Repubs annihilating RINOs
>said win consisted of deciding law about abortion in the state, which the Roe v. Wade reversal encourages in the first place
>"THIS MEANS THE DEMS ARE GONNA WIN AFTER ALL, WE'RE ALL DOOMED, AAAAAAAAAA"

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In case you've forgotten, nobody gives a shit about abortion now. That's precisely why the RvW reversal came and went with all of the fanfare of a wet fart. As @Pig Cups so eloquently stated, the economy is a much bigger issue at the moment. Focusing on this will ruin the enthusiasm that MAGA is generating right now, which would be absolutely fatal to any chance of not only overturning that Kansas law, but of this country ever getting out of this slump.
It's a double-edged sword. You can't get blackpilled, but you also can't get cocky or complacent. The Red Wave is not a guaranteed thing.
 
Yes, I agree the only reason Abortion is a National issue right now is because the Dems are trying to pass (ludicrous) Legislation on the subject. And yes, we are having broad-scale primary wins across the rest of the Nation.

That doesn't mean I can't be mad at Carpetbagging Yankee Jayhawks being bankrolled by the Coastal Elites.

The "Right" is going to have to get serious about either setting up their own Inter-State funding schemes, or try to legally limit outside money and influence, because that affects more than just the Abortion issue which you may or may not care about.
 
I wouldn't want anyone to be "right" with it at all. The whole impetus for this shitshow was abortion being allowed with the sideline of "Safe, Legal, and Rare" as the compromise that was then abused to hell and back. Anyone who thinks the same abuse can't take place just because the states relatively red is ignorant of how we got to this situation in the first place.

Banning it is the solution when compromise and common sense has already shown itself to not be enough.
I'm not talking about abortion. I'm talking about Roe. Imo states have the legal right to ban it out right and to allow post pregnancy abortions. I'm not in support of that, obviously, but the people living in a state voting that abortion is a state constitutional "right" is quite literally the whole point of overturning Roe. There was a bunch of wins last night(apparently) that's the only thing that matters.

Yes, I agree the only reason Abortion is a National issue right now is because the Dems are trying to pass (ludicrous) Legislation on the subject. And yes, we are having broad-scale primary wins across the rest of the Nation.

That doesn't mean I can't be mad at Carpetbagging Yankee Jayhawks being bankrolled by the Coastal Elites.

The "Right" is going to have to get serious about either setting up their own Inter-State funding schemes, or try to legally limit outside money and influence, because that affects more than just the Abortion issue which you may or may not care about.
No way to stop it after Citizens United. And the right is too individualistic to bother try and form an inter-state coalition to fight these types of things.
 
Because there are no airports, convention centers, restaurants, or large hotels in small towns. And there are no red cities, not since the Bush era GOP implosion.

Well there is Tampa iirc that has a GOP mayor.

Or host it in Arizona or Wyoming or some area that is like the suburb of a big city, that votes red.

No way to stop it after Citizens United. And the right is too individualistic to bother try and form an inter-state coalition to fight these types of things.

Maybe the old school boomer right is.

But young conservatives or right wingers or independents leaning right wing will have to organize at some point.
 
Glad to be eating crow on china.


^This. It's why as a teenager I started to question their teachings and the books we were supposed to read from.

That and the way they always acted whenever Hitler was brought up... like a bunch of mad animals foaming at the mouth in need of a rabies shot
I was in school early enough that it wasn't so bad and in your face, but it was definitely a cliff notes view of history.

They had the decency to say the Versailles treaty was a key part of why he came to power which was true, But they either didn't have the time or didn't particularly care to go knee deep into why he was appealing. Im glad my dad had mini liberary of history books. wouldn't have known about the Spanish american war and all the other conflicts we've been in if school was the only source.



Also holy crap Tulsi is laying into Biden about the Puberty blockers and trans shit.
https://trendingpolitics.com/wow-tu...angerously-promoting-child-abuse-watch-wiley/
 
I will say the whining from the RINO cucks is pretty great.
“If Peter’s opponent wins and goes on to November and wins, the Democrats own that. Congratulations,” Kinzinger said in response. “Here’s the thing, don’t keep coming to me asking where all the good Republicans that defend democracy are and then take your donors’ money and spend half a million promoting one of the worst election deniers that’s out there. The DCCC needs to be ashamed of themselves.”
They simply cannot understand why telling their voters to fuck off for the approval of their enemies didn't work out.

Maybe the old school boomer right is.

But young conservatives or right wingers or independents leaning right wing will have to organize at some point.
You can see this shift with stuff like the crowdfunding of Rittenhouse and the Trucker convoy. People are more than willing to throw money at a cause they believe is just. The organizations need to actually be willing to start getting shit done and start fighting instead of being all talk.
 
I know I've heard some concern already, but at some point the military is gonna have to really step in and say "You need to stop". Not in like some coup way, but the reserve is essential to all of them not running out of gas halfway through fighting in Taiwan or the like. That being said, when they do start raising those alarms louder, I expect the media to paint it as a military coup, because its more fun that way.

I do wonder what the plan is if the shitshow outlasts the SPR. I know they don't have an active one, but I'm sure someone has tabled some ideas, and I'd kill to see them.
 
I know I've heard some concern already, but at some point the military is gonna have to really step in and say "You need to stop". Not in like some coup way, but the reserve is essential to all of them not running out of gas halfway through fighting in Taiwan or the like. That being said, when they do start raising those alarms louder, I expect the media to paint it as a military coup, because its more fun that way.

I do wonder what the plan is if the shitshow outlasts the SPR. I know they don't have an active one, but I'm sure someone has tabled some ideas, and I'd kill to see them.
Under Secretary of Defense Raytheon and Chief of Staff Cyrus Milley, I find it more likely they'll replace the US Navy with solar-paneled sail ships to cut down on carbon emissions.
 
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