Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

I like this idea.

"Isn't that the guy who lost 100k of the SWFA's money suing internet trolls?"
That’s his framing. He filed a meritless SLAAP suit because despite beating his chest about being a “popular” public figure, he couldn’t handle being criticized for his lousy writing and despicable and buffoonish online behavior.
 
so do any of you autist have a list of all the things from his life he has had twitter conversation with?

so far i got:
  • his wife's blanket
  • hi toilet
  • his fence
  • the chad version of himself
  • his mustange(maybe, i only vaguely recall this one.)
Wasn't there a hooligans barstool and hooligans toilet too?
 
I heard Patrick was giving away free samples of pepperoni while trying to sell his books. Attendees described it as smokey with a hint of spice but they couldn’t quite place the meat. Pat refused to tell, only saying that he had personally hunted and butchered the meat himself and that it was grade A quality.
 
That’s his framing. He filed a meritless SLAAP suit because despite beating his chest about being a “popular” public figure, he couldn’t handle being criticized for his lousy writing and despicable and buffoonish online behavior.
Correct, but someone who isn’t in the know probably wouldn’t know that. The idea is to drop breadcrumbs that will lead these people to the truth without giving yourself away.
 
Apparently Fat Pat's been approaching other editors pitching a novel about a female game hunter in space. Which I can only assume means his deal with Tor fell apart.
Wouldn't this also mean his agent dropped him? As in Tor isn't going to talk to authors without agents, so I presume representation at least once upon a time, and I'm under the impression authors who have agents aren't supposed to do stuff like this, but rather go through their agent.
 
Correct, but someone who isn’t in the know probably wouldn’t know that. The idea is to drop breadcrumbs that will lead these people to the truth without giving yourself away.
Disagree. Someone in the industry would have plenty of reason to know about the lawsuit. The point isn't to get them to look up Patrick's thread. Normally it would be, but if these are editors in the modern publishing industry, there's a good chance they're woke. If they are, reading the spicy humor and the trolling of minority women to get to Pat won't have the same impact on them that it does on posters here (and could lead to unfortunate questions about @Boston Brand's identity - this is our joke, it's his career) . The point is to get them enough information that they can laugh at Pat, and understand what a nightmare working with him would be.
 
I've never had the self-confidence to try to write professionally but I have a friend who does, and there's a difference between an agent who's pushing your work and one who responds to your update requests with "don't worry, tiger" and no evidence they've done any work. If Torque still has an agent, they're not putting effort in, why would they?

Is it worth getting a screenwriting agent, anyone who knows? Does anything actually get read if you're not fucking the right people? I have some scripts I like, and one of them placed in one of those dumb competitions so I don't feel like I'd be coming with nothing. I'll say this, Rick's now-gone low/moderate success is inspirational.
 
I've never had the self-confidence to try to write professionally but I have a friend who does, and there's a difference between an agent who's pushing your work and one who responds to your update requests with "don't worry, tiger" and no evidence they've done any work. If Torque still has an agent, they're not putting effort in, why would they?

Is it worth getting a screenwriting agent, anyone who knows? Does anything actually get read if you're not fucking the right people? I have some scripts I like, and one of them placed in one of those dumb competitions so I don't feel like I'd be coming with nothing. I'll say this, Rick's now-gone low/moderate success is inspirational.
A friend of mine took a screenwriting class to learn how to put a screenplay together, and got it registered all on his own. It’s not generated interest - perhaps because it’s kind of a lame plot - but good ideas can find ways through the system.

I suspect Fatprick got as far as he did because he knew somebody who put him in a position to pitch an idea that just happened to torque someone’s interest. There are probably hundreds of people doing the same thing on the hope that a few of them generate decent sales. I’ve honestly read infinitely better stuff on Fictionpress, but Fatprick does what he does because he’s looking for a payday. And it shows.
 
Wouldn't this also mean his agent dropped him? As in Tor isn't going to talk to authors without agents, so I presume representation at least once upon a time, and I'm under the impression authors who have agents aren't supposed to do stuff like this, but rather go through their agent.
I think there's a difference between networking at cons and sending in an unsolicited manuscript. He could be saying things like, 'I'm working on this project, I can have my agent send over a copy.' Which makes me wonder if he's finished the elephants in space story, or if he's just pitching the idea.

Of course, there are classy and tacky ways to network. Given Pat's stellar record of dealing with other people, I'm going to guess it's the latter.
Is it worth getting a screenwriting agent, anyone who knows? Does anything actually get read if you're not fucking the right people? I have some scripts I like, and one of them placed in one of those dumb competitions so I don't feel like I'd be coming with nothing. I'll say this, Rick's now-gone low/moderate success is inspirational.
Have you got a strong, female protagonist, a diverse cast, and plenty of LGBdhjrjebeyauwh representation? Cause good luck getting anywhere if you don't.

You might look at Indie studios. See if any of them have done movies similar to what you've written. There would be a greater chance of getting seen than if you send it in to one of the corporate studios, and they might not require that you prostrate yourself before the gods of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
 
I went the middle route. Said he was the fool behind the SFWA lawsuit, and generally his work is shit.

Apparently still represented by Russell Galen. Which is the only reason some of these editors even bothered to ask. That, and the SWAT-ing seems to be how he opens every conversation.

General impression from them seems to be he's jittery and on edge.

If I can say more without outting them or myself, I will. Let me chew on that.
 
So... drinking with a few editors attending Gencon. Guess what comes up?

Apparently Fat Pat's been approaching other editors pitching a novel about a female game hunter in space. Which I can only assume means his deal with Tor fell apart.

None of them know who he is, or seem too impressed by the novel, and commented how he seems very high strung and tense.

How much should I tell them?

A novel about a female game hunter in space?

Someone on OnA pointed out something hilarious. Before his dumb Tiny Tim book Pat was working on something else for like 2 years called Herd Immunity about some badass woman former space marine who protects endangered space elephants...in space! Scalzi just released a book with almost the same premise but it's about a guy who protects endangered 'kaiju'

Oh right, CNN said herd immunity in regards to covid and 1.7 went "but what if it's a herd of space elephants and they're immune from space poachers?"

Patrick will NOT come up with new novel ideas until he is adequately compensated for his "start with the outdated political pun title and write a book based around it" ideas.
 
I went the middle route. Said he was the fool behind the SFWA lawsuit, and generally his work is shit.

Apparently still represented by Russell Galen. Which is the only reason some of these editors even bothered to ask. That, and the SWAT-ing seems to be how he opens every conversation.

General impression from them seems to be he's jittery and on edge.

If I can say more without outting them or myself, I will. Let me chew on that.
The Goodreads mess would be something safe to bring up. Less safe would be saying that you checked out his twitter and noticed that he's gotten into a LOT of unremorseful spats with female, black, and LGBT authors thanks to him mishandling the trolls that follow him around, the guy's a huge liability and ticking timebomb because of that.
 
So... drinking with a few editors attending Gencon. Guess what comes up?

Apparently Fat Pat's been approaching other editors pitching a novel about a female game hunter in space. Which I can only assume means his deal with Tor fell apart.
This is HERD IMMUNITY based on a short story he's been #writing since 2015 at least, 2019 in longer form. Submitted it to the Scientology award in honor of L. Ron Hubbard and was a finalist for that quarter.

Hey @Netflix come and get it! The protagonist is disabled!!!
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Tor Books published a Scalzi sci-fi book about ecology and animal/alien rights this year, Pat probably eager to ride that wave, grift the "If you liked X you'll like Y" lists:
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This is HERD IMMUNITY based on a short story he's been #writing since 2015 at least, 2019 in longer form. Submitted it to the Scientology award in honor of L. Ron Hubbard and was a finalist for that quarter.

Hey @Netflix come and get it! The protagonist is disabled!!!
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Tor Books published a Scalzi sci-fi book about ecology and animal/alien rights this year, Pat probably eager to ride that wave, grift the "If you liked X you'll like Y" lists:
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Scalzi is an absolute hack. Certainly someone Fatrick would model his career after.
 
This is HERD IMMUNITY based on a short story he's been #writing since 2015 at least, 2019 in longer form. Submitted it to the Scientology award in honor of L. Ron Hubbard and was a finalist for that quarter.
Oh come on now this is too unrealistic. He took part in an L Ron Hubbard award what was first price free entry on the sex offender registry? One of those Ethan Ralph brand kid diddler hats? This shit is just crazy and the truth of his life is even strange and dumber than fiction. Just too perfect.
 
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