In Colorado, all of these surgeries are covered by Medicaid (state insurance for poor people) but the one thing they DON'T cover is reversal of these surgeries. State law says all insurance companies in the state must cover all the surgeries. This law takes effect in 2023. It's insane.
Just stop paying taxes, bro. That’s what I’d do. I don’t want to subsidize this madness. If troons are going to do this they need to have to grind out $20k-$100k at their wagecuck jobs.
Say what you will about Arielle Scarcella, but she has hit peak-trans not that long ago, and it has been interesting watching her push back against trans ideology, particularly how damaging the T is to the rest of LGB.
She has a video that has interview segments of two detransitioning MTF troons, and it is quite illuminating. I am uploading it here in case YouTube decides to ban Arielle Scarcella's channel for refusing to tow the line on tranny propaganda.
The really frightening thing is that the interview highlights how people are being pushed to troon out when they visit these mental health professionals instead of treating the underlying mental health issues themselves.
She actually has NOT hit peak trans, since she still insists there are "real" trannies, and is besties with Blair, Buck, and all the other conservative or left but not THAT far left youtube trannies.
I always find this response (when they make it about SRS, not when we mock it sarcastically here) kind of hilarious because it doesn’t matter if cis women have extra skin bits naturally; the neo vagina is not formed naturally therefore none of the rules apply and you should worry if the rotting remains of your own mutilated genitals start poking out of your surgically crafted hole.
Imagine spilling acid on your hand letting your boiled flesh just heal fused together and then having a buddy tell you not to worry because webbed fingers occur in nature.
I have no idea how you can turn off your brain enough to find that comforting.
I always find this response (when they make it about SRS, not when we mock it sarcastically here) kind of hilarious because it doesn’t matter if cis women have extra skin bits naturally; the neo vagina is not formed naturally therefore none of the rules apply and you should worry if the rotting remains of your own mutilated genitals start poking out of your surgically crafted hole.
Imagine spilling acid on your hand letting your boiled flesh just heal fused together and then having a buddy tell you not to worry because webbed fingers occur in nature.
I have no idea how you can turn off your brain enough to find that comforting.
Because they desperately want to be women not in the "true tranny" way, but the "easy mode pornsick fuckdoll" way. They're grasping at straws to deny they royally fucked up and not only can't coom anymore (the only thing they had to live for) but also they now have an ugly hole that reeks like death between their legs. And they can never go back.
They know deep down that they've screwed themselves over, but they think if they deny it enough it will get better.
I always find this response (when they make it about SRS, not when we mock it sarcastically here) kind of hilarious because it doesn’t matter if cis women have extra skin bits naturally; the neo vagina is not formed naturally therefore none of the rules apply and you should worry if the rotting remains of your own mutilated genitals start poking out of your surgically crafted hole.
Imagine spilling acid on your hand letting your boiled flesh just heal fused together and then having a buddy tell you not to worry because webbed fingers occur in nature.
I have no idea how you can turn off your brain enough to find that comforting.
They are pretending the acid induced injury magically transformed their hand into the webbed fingers found in nature, the cult mentality is to pretend that the amhole HAS become a vagina, like if their body developed one as a fetus, magically from stitching the dick parts together.
They are pretending the acid induced injury magically transformed their hand into the webbed fingers found in nature, the cult mentality is to pretend that the amhole HAS become a vagina, like if their body developed one as a fetus, magically from stitching the dick parts together.
Even worse, they think it's actually BETTER than nature, better than cis. As if the webbed fingers turned them into a literal superhero... Aquatroon? (That would explain the seahorse, lol.)
because taking selfies after getting radical cosmetic surgery again and again is such a male-associated thing to do
because putting yourself through Chinese foot-binding or African female-genital-mutilation levels of pain and disability merely for your cosmetic appearance is such a male, masculine, manly thing to do
picture above is a post-op FTM in one of those voyeuristic Britbong documentaries I saw several years ago ('Girls to Men' by C4)
you know, the kind where a condescending woman narrator with a Home Counties accent says things like 'today, Britney is making the final preparations for her bariatric surgery..'
the FTM was trying to explain what an FTM is to some random bloke on the street, and he said "so basically a glorified dyke?"
In Colorado, all of these surgeries are covered by Medicaid (state insurance for poor people) but the one thing they DON'T cover is reversal of these surgeries. State law says all insurance companies in the state must cover all the surgeries. This law takes effect in 2023. It's insane.
I still have yet to hear a convincing argument as to why insurance will cover cosmetic surgery for “transwomen” but not actual women. If symmetrical breasts are needed for a man to feel female, does that not extend to real females? If having a face free from facial hair is a female trait, why is it not covered for women with PCOS or hirsutism who surely feel dysphoria over their appearance.
Are trans women not women? I keep getting told they are, so what is covered for one type of woman surely should be covered for the other type. Isn’t that gender discrimination?
What are we even looking at in the first spoiler? The infection she has is no joke- I will never understand these people subjecting themselves to the possibility of actually dying in a horrifying and painful way when they could either cope or just 41 themselves in a cleaner fashion.
"Be glade [sic] you have a snow flake and not a cookie cutter vagina."
So basically, gaslight yourself and by proxy everyone else in your situation. Affirmations/mantras/'manifestation' culture is fucking cancer; pseudo-psychology with pyramid scheme characteristics.
I still have yet to hear a convincing argument as to why insurance will cover cosmetic surgery for “transwomen” but not actual women. If symmetrical breasts are needed for a man to feel female, does that not extend to real females? If having a face free from facial hair is a female trait, why is it not covered for women with PCOS or hirsutism who surely feel dysphoria over their appearance.
Are trans women not women? I keep getting told they are, so what is covered for one type of woman surely should be covered for the other type. Isn’t that gender discrimination?
Same for breast implants in general, no? Those aren't covered for women absent a cancer experience*, afaik. Neither is T for men who just want to build muscle, right?
*maybe other conditions could qualify, idk, but never just bc a woman says she'd feel more womanly with bigger breasts
Apparently some insurance even covers facial feminization surgery.
*how many women spend whole lifetimes somewhere on the scale of being bothered to being miserable as a result of their body or face not being close enough to a "womanly" ideal? Why are those situations considered medically unnecessary even if they cause a woman to develop depression, anxiety, eating disordered thinking, or other mental health issues, sometimes severe and life-limiting? I'm supportive of trans people, generally speaking, so I'm not completely anti-coverage for True & Honest trans people seeking transition surgery**, but the cost of procedures to tweak body and face outlines is cost-prohibitive or budget-inadvisable for most people, and so most people live with their (subjectively) unideal outlines, despite the mental health impact that may exist.
**Surgeons ought to have an outcome score based on functionality, complications, etc., scored against non-genital surgery outcomes, in order to be covered, though. This thread has made that much clear. Butchers doing top surgery is bad enough, but bottom surgery is at best experimental.
Yes, I'm MOTI, and MATI for glorifying and over-simplifying these procedures to the point of deception.***
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I have a young friend, maybe 23, 24 (whatever; I'm old enough to be his mother). He's gay and started on hormones a couple years ago (I have heard enough about his relationship dramas to believe that "being a girl" is at least in part an effort to find love, which he cannot as yet figure out how to separate from sex, so he's constantly "in love" with men who objectify and treat him like trash on the bottoms of their shoes, but I digress.). He developed breasts and small hips on the hormones and is thrilled. He's slender and not overly masculine to begin with, but he looks trans - Thai lady-boy style - and he's young and earnest enough to not mind if people refer to him as he or she at this point. I don't think he wants to cut off his dick at this point, either. So fine, do you and I hope you find happiness and learn how to avoid shit-heels. BUT - this kid - with gas-station-attendant-level insurance - has been told by his doctor that not only will insurance certainly approve surgery, but somehow he also thinks (citing his doctor) that he's going to be able to have a baby, that this is definitely (already) a thing, and it's no problem medically.
Now, yes, my young friend is young and silly and probably misunderstood what he was told. BUT. Doctors treating people seeking major, permanent, hormonal and surgical changes that could ruin and mutilate them for life should be able to figure out how to affirm the human being in front of them while bringing them well into the realm of reality. Hyping up an obviously idealistic, not overly discerning, very young person (who is in therapy, and his doctor knows this) by putting romantic ideas about potentially life- and limb-endangering medical procedures, and talking about bearing a damn child to a mixed-up young male is horrendous.
What are we even looking at in the first spoiler? The infection she has is no joke- I will never understand these people subjecting themselves to the possibility of actually dying in a horrifying and painful way when they could either cope or just 41 themselves in a cleaner fashion.
I work with a self professed ftm teenage troon. She sounds like a woman, talks like a woman, and thinks herself a "gay transboi". She chopped her hair into the ugliest cut I've ever seen. I'm going to guess she got sucked into the gender cult because by her face she looks like she has some kind of genetic defect from her mom smoking/drinking and decided because she wasn't pretty she must be a man. She is so fucking obviously a woman by speech and mannerisms it's almost infuriating how insane these people are insisting otherwise when you actually have to live around it.
These people are "high on ergot" levels of delusional.
