Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[WinifredSanderson]

On the same level, the special ed kids at my high school used to have a class where they would learn how to bake muffins (okay, learning how to safely cook, clean, food safety, etc, that's great!) and then they would sell their muffins door-to-door to classrooms which was then deemed too disruptive and then they sold them at a table in the quad at a break (ok... entrepreneurship, communication skills, money handling, profit/loss, budget, that's all good I suppose...) THEN any kid who needed extra help was FOREVER known as the "muffin kids" which became a slur, essentially. I'm pretty sure that class also included a full range of different levels/assistance needs, anywhere from cerebral palsy to dyslexia or dysgraphia to Downs to the severely autistic or delayed... It really wasn't fair to anyone involved and I still cringe.

 

[Android raptor]

its not exploitative to get them doing something half way productive and they are tards, so they are dumb enough to want to, and be happy doing a job no one else wants to do

You clearly have never been around any developmentally or intellectually disabled people for very long. Lmao

If any of the sped classes I was in tried to turn us into free unpaid labor it probably wouldn't have ended well.

It's fucked up but I can believe there are schools that have that policy, there's a large contigent of people out there who view tards as subhumans who exist to perform slave labor/almost slave labor (see: states where its legal to pay disabled people in job programs less than minimum wage).

 

[Shanndog]

You clearly have never been around any developmentally or intellectually disabled people for very long. Lmao

If any of the sped classes I was in tried to turn us into free unpaid labor it probably wouldn't have ended well.

It's fucked up but I can believe there are schools that have that policy, there's a large contigent of people out there who view tards as subhumans who exist to perform slave labor/almost slave labor (see: states where its legal to pay disabled people in job programs less than minimum wage).

actually i have, i spent just over 20 years working in adult social services, with the DD/MR populations: it just burned me out to no end, but so many of them are indeed happy to have any sort of job, and the ones who are not satisfied, are not capable of really advocating effectively for themselves, also, them, and or their parents ares o happy they have something, they do not ruffle any feathers, that being said, as much as it burned me out and i got to where i had to just turn off emotions: i do agree it is not right to pay them sub wages, or to railroad them into shit options or no real options at all.

 

[Android raptor]

actually i have, i spent just over 20 years working in adult social services, with the DD/MR populations: it just burned me out to no end, but so many of them are indeed happy to have any sort of job, and the ones who are not satisfied, are not capable of really advocating effectively for themselves, also, them, and or their parents ares o happy they have something, they do not ruffle any feathers, that being said, as much as it burned me out and i got to where i had to just turn off emotions: i do agree it is not right to pay them sub wages, or to railroad them into shit options or no real options at all.

That's even worse, I get the feeling you might have been the kind of sped worker we've been dunking on the past couple pages. There's a world of difference between disabled adults in work programs getting paid at least minimum wage, and making disabled kids pick up trash, in front of non-disabled kids no less, with presumably no compensation.

Being forced to pick up the trash at the end of the day would've likely, and tbh justifiably, ended with trash being thrown at the teachers in any sped class I was in. Possibly the normie kids/teachers as well.

 

[Shanndog]

That's even worse, I get the feeling you might have been the kind of sped worker we've been dunking on the past couple pages

Being forced to pick up the trash at the end of the day would've likely, and tbh justifiably, ended with trash being thrown at the teachers in any sped class I was in. Possibly the normie kids/teachers as well.

actually no, i busted my ass advocating for these folks but the higher ups ; ( management, case workers, dept. heads ) would not listen, and when a client had an outburst for example , they always jumped right to '' behavior problem'' , or ''mental health'' instead of realizing they were hella frustrated and were clearly communicating that. so while i may rag on the speds, make my jokes and snarky comments, i did care, and i did everything i could until i just could not take it anymore. but its how you survive ad keep sane ironically in a field like that : especially when worker and client alike are ending up in one no-win situation after another . :-/

 

[Android raptor]

actually no, i busted my ass advocating for these folks but the higher ups ; ( management, case workers, dept. heads ) would not listen, and when a client had an outburst for example , they always jumped right to '' behavior problem'' , or ''mental health'' instead of realizing they were hella frustrated and were clearly communicating that. so while i may rag on the speds, make my jokes and snarky comments, i did care, and i did everything i could until i just could not take it anymore. but its how you survive ad keep sane ironically in a field like that : especially when worker and client alike are ending up in one no-win situation after another . :-/

Either way disabled kids aren't slave labor, and forcing them to pick up trash in front of the other kids is pretty fucked. If you can't see why it is, well, all I can say is you dropping out of that line of work was probably a benefit for everyone involved.

Being on the receiving end of this shit gives you a bit of a different perspective, especially if it was during your formative years.

Apologies, this is a topic that gets me heated because powerlevel

 

[booklover]

actually i have, i spent just over 20 years working in adult social services, with the DD/MR populations: it just burned me out to no end, but so many of them are indeed happy to have any sort of job, and the ones who are not satisfied, are not capable of really advocating effectively for themselves, also, them, and or their parents ares o happy they have something, they do not ruffle any feathers, that being said, as much as it burned me out and i got to where i had to just turn off emotions: i do agree it is not right to pay them sub wages, or to railroad them into shit options or no real options at all.

My understanding about the sub-minimum wage piecework that's usually done in sheltered workshops is mainly so people who qualify can earn some of their own money, and not have it interfere with their disability benefits.

The late opera singer Beverly Sills had two disabled children; both were deaf, and one of them was also severely autistic. (Her daughter, who was mentally normal and died a few years ago, was a book illustrator; her son is the one who was/is mentally disabled.) When she wrote her autobiography in the 1980s, she said that he lived in a group home, and had a job packaging foot pads for the Dr. Scholls Corporation, which had a factory in the area and they had not figured out how to mechanize some of the packaging at the time. She said he was paid 5 cents per package, and that he was NOT being exploited; he was earning a wage for the work that he did and he understood that.

Back in the day, I had a pen pal who had earned a degree in therapeutic physical education, and while she enjoyed the theory, the actual practice involved mostly working with people who had mental disabilities, and she reluctantly admitted that she didn't really like it that much. The nail in the coffin was a little girl who EVERY.SINGLE.DAY asked her if she had a dog, and when she found herself wanting to scream, "No, you idiot, and don't ask me again!" she knew she wasn't cut out for that kind of work.

 

[Shanndog]

Either way disabled kids aren't slave labor, and forcing them to pick up trash in front of the other kids is pretty fucked. If you can't see why it is, well, all I can say is you dropping out of that line of work was probably a benefit for everyone involved.

Being on the receiving end of this shit gives you a bit of a different perspective, especially if it was during your formative years.

Apologies, this is a topic that gets me heated because powerlevel

i can understand and respect that, but my main thing is, if they are doing it as part of job / work experience and training, that is cool, no, i do not agree with forcing ( no worries about powerlevel, sometimes its needed for explanations and points of reference to situations )

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Once, a 'day program' had these speds go around collecting recycling from other programs and group homes. No, they didn't get paid as it was 'vocational'.

Buncha fucking hogwash. These were all so low IQ they'd never work a job of any kind. Best part was the one who grinded their teeth consistently every waking second.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

The nail in the coffin was a little girl who EVERY.SINGLE.DAY asked her if she had a dog, and when she found herself wanting to scream, "No, you idiot, and don't ask me again!" she knew she wasn't cut out for that kind of work.

Okay, but did she have a dog?

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

Once, a 'day program' had these speds go around collecting recycling from other programs and group homes. No, they didn't get paid as it was 'vocational'.

Buncha fucking hogwash. These were all so low IQ they'd never work a job of any kind. Best part was the one who grinded their teeth consistently every waking second.

Spoiler

can confirm as someone once mistakenly put in the sped class. They made them do the rest of the classes recycling. Now most of these kids were mentally still in kindergarten, so I kinda see it as like. Making toddlers do manual labor?

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Spoiler

can confirm as someone once mistakenly put in the sped class. They made them do the rest of the classes recycling. Now most of these kids were mentally still in kindergarten, so I kinda see it as like. Making toddlers do manual labor?

inb4 non retarded dyslexic kid with OCD has a mental breakdown bc of touching garbage that people hawked loogies into.

 

[Jeep1971]

You clearly have never been around any developmentally or intellectually disabled people for very long. Lmao

If any of the sped classes I was in tried to turn us into free unpaid labor it probably wouldn't have ended well.

It's fucked up but I can believe there are schools that have that policy, there's a large contigent of people out there who view tards as subhumans who exist to perform slave labor/almost slave labor (see: states where its legal to pay disabled people in job programs less than minimum wage).

Some places do purposely pay them(disabled) just enough so that they do not risk losing their free medicare,as the comment above stated.

Spoiler: Personal sperg

I had a friend who was legally blind and attended blind industry workshops and was paid what we would consider a pittance but it was set that way so he did not lose the Medicare he needed for multiple health problems.

However using the disabled for free labor in public schools SHOULD have been shut down by the Union.

 

[kittyfucker]

can confirm as someone once mistakenly put in the sped class

mistakenly put in the sped class

mistakenly

I'm pretty sure being a sped in one way or another is a prerequisite for being a kiwi

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

I'm pretty sure being a sped in one way or another is a prerequisite for being a kiwi

I mean, yea, that is true. They must have foreseen something.

 

[Android raptor]

Kiwi Farms is basically the sped class of the internet. Or more like the alternative school, it's where the speds more mainstream places don't want to deal with end up getting warehoused.

 

[Oracular Slug]

Not to completely derail but I’ve fallen down a rabbit hole of SBSK videos and I blame you fuckers

 

[AnOminous]

Not to completely derail but I’ve fallen down a rabbit hole of SBSK videos and I blame you fuckers

My sympathies. My ability to tolerate his tone of voice maxes out at about a minute in.

 

[booklover]

Okay, but did she have a dog?

Did you read my post? At the time, no, she didn't.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

One of the weirdest programs is where they have an adult who is paid to supervise a DD person at a job. Like some guy is getting paid $14 an hour to watch a sped person do a $7 an hour job.

This was required in my city in order for a developmentally disabled person to work at many places. It was surreal to have an adult of normal intelligence being paid more just to insure a retarded person would perform a menial job.

Lots of psych, special education and SW students at my college had jobs supervising a sped at their job. Our university also had one of the earliest “autism intervention” programs in the country. The running joke was, “what’s the difference between a retarded kid and an autistic kid?” Answer: The parent’s net worth.