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US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians
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I m gonna disagree, Those examples are a very loud and coddled minority that have a louder voice because of social media.
The BBQ would be for like the people who think they support those whack jobs.
"Liberals" like most people are on a spectrum.
"like yeah police shouldnt kill black people"
"its wrong to be homophobic"
"why yes I support trans people they should be free to live their honest life"
"people shouldnt be jailed with a criminal record for shop lifting a loaf of bread cause they were hungry"
"we should help the un housed"
Then when those slogans morph into
"defund the police, oh no why I am I getting rob"
"homos molesting children"
"trans people screaming you will suck the shenis and give us womens sports"
"We should totally let organize crime rings shoplift the whole store"
"oh there is homeless camp in my front yard they are stealing from me, and just stabbed my neighbor, because they are mentally ill drug addicts, better call the police I just defunded, Oh shit good thing I dont believe in guns"
most normies or moderates as we can call them will support supid dogma shit if its presented with the correct optics.
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Surprisingly, Hillary understood the value of these. She did them very often during her run for senate, and that seems almost surreal to think about in the current era. I can name one in particular she had at Crab Meadow beach that ranks as one of the best political events I ever attended. She actually spent like 8 hours just chatting it up with constituents - the sort of shit you wouldn't see her ever do in the current age.
I personally chalk it up to the fact that her staff during the senatorial run were genuinely competent, more than anything else, because I don't think she would have even bothered showing up otherwise.
When I was in the activist pool, a problem started to emerge. Essentially, the Dems had gone so long making good on absolutely none of their promises that their core activist base started to revolt. They started primarying establishment darlings, throwing funds behind outsider candidates, and essentially, setting political fires at the local levels that the DNC would then have to put a smile on as they quietly crushed in the background. If these Dems succeeded in getting in, they'd rattle the cage and basically force the Establishment to go fangs out, usually fabricating sex scandals as is the customary DNC means of dealing with upstarts.
While he wasn't a great politican, Al Franken is a pretty good example of who the activist base was trying to push forward - anyone would do, as long as they'd fucking do something.
It didn't always work though, and no incident is a better example of this than Ned Lamont; after years of Joe Lieberman being a blight on politics and a living example of every single negative stereotype you can possibly think of involving politicians, THE JEWS, or corrupt functionaries, and indeed, an embodiment of several negative stereotypes you'd never know about before meeting him, the people of Connecticut, in 2006, finally had enough of his shit and primaried his ass out in favor of Ned Lamont. Lamont was a dem oldster, a decent statesman (especially compared to establishment trash like Lieberman), and generally was considered a lock for the seat after Lieberman was thrown out on his ass.
But the dem establishment is loath to let their favored puppets eat shit, and in this case, Lieberman's response was to run as an independent. The DNC, through shell groups, funneled effectively unlimited money into Lieberman's campaign, while at the same time, actively starving Lamont's. In the end, Lieberman won once again and we were right back to business. Connecticut was getting an establishment hack, and if you fuckers weren't going to lie there and take it, they'd make it happen by force.
That shit happened over and over again, and the more it happened, the more my generation of activist started to revolt in response. Around 2008, they were finally sick of our shit when Occupy happened, and, realizing the threat it posed (much as the RINOs did the Tea Party), went about quashing it by appealing to identity politicians, progressives, and hard-left types. At the same time this was going on, virtually every left-leaning community on the internet started to get taken over by the progressives. The final nail in the coffin came when the low-level manager and analyst types who basically ran the Activist ground game started to retire (they were getting older, and, as a popular joke went, Carville was looking more and more like a ballsack). The people who replaced them were not cut from the same cloth, but were the new progressive types, who happily kicked out any Dem oldster stragglers in favor of true believers.
By 2012, the only remnants of my gen of activists were fucking gone. To answer your next question, though, I'll jump to the next response.
First: That is a fucking hilarious joke and I tip my hat to you, good sir.
But no - the biggest reason they stopped doing these is because with the new activist core, they were seen as unnecessary. Apply the modern bugman mindset here - the one that says that only the cities matter - that's the current activist core they have, predominantly progressive and with a top-down view of everything. Looking at that, you will understand immediately why they stopped doing these - they don't give a shit what small towners think, they don't want to waste precious resources appealing to these insufferable non-city-dwellers and their backwater sensibilities. They will vote Democrat or else, and we will deny them all choice otherwise.
This change in mindset is visible with the major change in Dem policy after 2008, when they swapped to focus solely on strongholding. Like @Gehenna once said, the 50-state strat worked predominantly because it wasn't expected, and once it was, it would be harder to pull off. What he didn't cover was that it could, on paper, keep working - and work well. The problem is that that shit would have taken money - lots of money, as as we've established, the establishment Dems are fucking apocalyptically bad with finances. If they'd stuck to it, they'd almost certainly have run themselves into the ground even faster, and likely with minimal gains after the first attempt in 2008. If they had the resources to back it however, and had they not utterly fucked their ground game into the ground, further wounding their cash influx, there's a break-even chance we'd be looking at a very different paradigm today.
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Not even that much, they want to flip tables over and set shit on fire, because they're revolutionary larpers and that's all they know what to do.
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Jesus, how does one not get blackpilled on the DNC after this shitshow? Like legitimately, why would anyone even work or vote for the DNC aside from the promise of a cushy position?
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Propaganda coloring the other side as racist, misogynic, homophobic, etc.
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Literally because Orange Man Bad. That is their sole rallying cry and the raison d'etre of the modern Democrat party.
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And stopping bills from passing. Republicans are the reason we can't do anything when it's really because those bills were pants on head retarded and needed to be blocked.
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The same reason that my office hasn't been able do potlucks or recreational stuff for several years, a toxic combination of incompetence/laziness and activist screaming at the people who were putting in effort.
One of the nicest and most productive ladies I know was reduced to tears because she volunteered to bring chili and got both screamed at plus reported to HR for 'racist cultural appropriation and creating a hostile environment' by some 'Hispanic' newbie who insisted Whites stole chili. Our decades+ office veteran took an early retirement shortly after, and we lost one of our most productive employees. The person that reported her had been here less than 5 months, departed less than a year after and was a lazy worker that constantly caused problems.
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Don’t forget The Gretch out in Michigan. Despite her COVID tyranny, Whitmer may be one on their safer bets from the governor pool.
She would have to contend with a nation full of guys who’d want to physically remove those smirks off her face, though. The kidnapping plot would have a newer light shone on it, and she’s unlikable as fuck. She’d probably expand on what is her current following of haters and be unable to bring it home. At least you *hope* so, because…imagine Dana Nessel in federal office? -shudders-
Still…sad as it is, she may be one of their best bets. Certainly over Newsom, I’d think.
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She'd have to step down from her second term as governor to run.
The Republicans just handed her an easy reelection by allowing a weak unknown candidate to win a predetermined primary victory with absolutely no pushback.
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Its less complicated if you go for just taxpayers can vote hint half of the population is net zero or negative to contribution to the states budget. Majority of western women are at least net negative combine with don't be violent felon for the last decade and you are set
Yes. That's what happened to the roman empire and the romans and the brits during 4th and 5th century the Germans which descendant language you speak essentially colonised brtiain and the roman empire. Read up on anglo saxon invasion and how British men were banned from marrying. In few centuries the British male line was extinguished. Just nobody fucking mentions it even in Britain because it hits too close home. To be even more ironic the British invited the anglo Saxons to help with an issues when the Romans and honorius the great retard told them to fuck off. Sounds familiar ?
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While he definitely expanded the powers of the federal government, Lincoln only did so to deal with an existential crisis that could cause the destruction of the Union. I think that Lincoln would've followed in his successors' footsteps and removed most of his rules once the war was over, rather than seeking to permanently entrench the power of the federal government.
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Razorfist hinted at the possibility of doing a video on Lincoln, from what little I see of his Twitter he'll usually mention a topic on his feed long before he does a rant on it. I'd be curious to see what he thinks Lincoln should've done instead or how he could've accomplished the same goals but better.
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Some people are broken and refuse to seek a healthy long-lasting happiness, they just want to harass and bully others to get their short-term dopamine hit.
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I highly doubt that.
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That's the darkest secret of all, Leader of Nod. They don't.
The Dem activist core was (and still is) a fucking meat grinder. The only thing keeping it running is new blood coming in year after year, and thanks to who runs it now, less and less of that comes in each successive time. It's killing them.
When I was active, the middle-of-the-pack types that kept the machine running and were responsible for the ground game gave a shit. They were local-level pols and regional activists who knew how to get shit done, so there was skin in the game. Even if you were completely dissatisfied with the way the establishment Dems did things (and more often than not, you absolutely were), you had reasons to give a shit, the chance for minor victories, and the prospect of better down the line keeping you going.
However, like I said - those mid-level dudes left when they got old enough, and who replaced them were (you guessed it) Progressives. The kind of people who won't ask questions, just vote Democrat and then get excited for next Democrat (who will more often than not be the exact same Democrat; continue ad infinitum).
Do you know where almost all of my generation of activists went after the DNC essentially coronated Hillary, will of the voters be damned?
Here's a hint, his campaign slogan was "Make America Great Again."
Hell hath no fury like an activist screwed.
I can absolutely 100% confirm this. A dude I worked with for almost half a decade confided in me that he - someone who I quite literally canvassed with and had dogs sicced on me once with, who could get entire fucking neighborhoods out to vote - had been, after nearly 20+ years, replaced by someone who quite literally had no understanding of the district and whose first action was shutting down outreach efforts because they weren't reaching enough people of color.
In districts that are basically 100% white and/or hispanic.
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Damn, I'd rather have no turnout than get booted out like that.
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Some updates from Baris for today:
First some musings about the GOP not understating the base.
Next some info about Joe Kent and the voters left in WA-3. Image attached but not thumbnailed as archive didn't catch it fully.
First some musings about the GOP not understating the base.
Next some info about Joe Kent and the voters left in WA-3. Image attached but not thumbnailed as archive didn't catch it fully.
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Yep. It doesn't change too much, but it looks like the government is trying to squeeze people and the IRS is rightfully despised by the average person, so it's going to be unpopular regardless. Then there's the tax on natural gas during an energy crisis. That cost will be passed on to the customer, possibly even in an itemized manner. So when people get their bill and there's a 17% charge that says "Biden tax hike" they're not going to be like, "well it's a tax on them, not on me, so Biden's pledge to not increase taxes on anyone making less than $400,000 still holds." All in all, the bill is going to increase costs during a recession. It's going to hurt.
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