🐱 Trans and nonbinary Witches respond to “Traditional Gardnerian Wica” declaration

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For transgender and nonbinary Gardnerians, the controversy surrounding a recently published document deemed transphobic elicited strong condemnations and widespread dismissal of any influence the statement’s authors have in the Gardenarian community.

As The Wild Hunt previously reported, a small group of anonymous Gardernarians recently posted “A Declaration of the Traditional Gardnerian Wica,” claiming that the tradition’s principles are strictly rooted in male/female polarity and denying the compatibility of other gender identifications with their practice.

Among those expressing outrage are Yvonne Aburrow, author of All Acts of Love and Pleasure: Inclusive Wicca, along with other titles. Aburrow is nonbinary and became a Gardnerian in 1991. They have been part of the magical community since 1985 and have long advocated for a more inclusive Wicca.


“The first time I met a trans initiate was in 1995, and she was in a relationship with a member of Gardner’s original coven,” Aburrow said via email. “Various members of the mainstream Gardnerian community who have responded to the transphobic declaration have broken down in some detail how it actually contradicts things that Gerald Gardner wrote. The individuals making the declaration are marginal within the online community (and have set up their own Facebook groups where they can promote their view of the Craft). They do not represent the vast majority of the Gardnerian community, and they certainly do not represent a traditional view of Gardnerian Wicca.”

Aburrow, who holds an master’s in Contemporary Religions and Spiritualities from Bath Spa University in England, is concerned with the declaration’s claims of a more authentic understanding of Gardener, especially given their research’s focus on queer spirituality in both Christianity and Paganism at large.

“I am always disturbed when people use the concept of tradition as a cover for their bigotry,” they explained. “Tradition is a growing and changing thing, it is not set in stone (and the people behind this declaration are actually trying to change the tradition into something that is at odds with its general themes).”

Aburrow was also quick to point out the declaration’s potentially negative ramifications to creating a welcoming space.

“It has also been sad to see seekers and newer initiates being dismayed by the declaration, as it is very disheartening for people who are not really acquainted with the wider community to think that this sort of bigotry might be widespread in the community they are joining,” they said. “For those of us who have been part of the community for decades and are familiar with the attitudes and beliefs of Gardnerians, it is clear that [the declaration] is a rant by a small number of disaffected bigots, who do not like it that the community is moving towards greater inclusivity.”

Misha Magdalene, who describes herself as a “multi-queer Witch” from Rhode Island, was initiated in both the Anderson Feri and Gardnerian traditions. As the author of Outside the Charmed Circle: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in Magical Practice, Magdalene characterizes the situation through a similarly nuanced lens.

“My initial reaction was a bit of a non-reaction: ‘Oh, there go the transphobes again,’” she said. “At a certain point, you just get used to these periodic, nonsensical gurglings from the usual suspects. It’s an attempt at instilling the Craft with a right-wing agenda. It’s harmful, in part because it tarnishes the reputation of Gardnerian Craft for people who might not be informed enough to understand that these folks only represent a small-but-loud fraction of the Craft, but it’s neither new nor noteworthy.”

While Magdalene admits to having experienced discrimination within the Gardnerian community, she notes it is not the overriding sentiment.

“I’ve dealt with ugliness from particular individuals, but the Gardnerian community as a whole has been welcoming, accepting, and thoughtful in its approach to transgender people,” she explained. “I’ve had longtime friends and Elders within the Craft reach out to me in recent days to see how I’m doing, and to offer their support. It’s been lovely.”

Aburrow has also had their fair share of negative reactions, but noted a shift within the community.

“When I first started talking about making Wicca more inclusive, I did get pushback from some people, especially from some of the individuals behind this statement,” they said. “Over the last seven or eight years, a lot more people have become interested in making our rituals more inclusive for LGBTQ2SIA people.” (Aburrow has included two spirit, intersex, and asexual identities, along with lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning.)

In the wake of the declaration’s publications, many trans and nonbinary Gardnerians felt the need to express radical pride and remind fellow practitioners of their presence in the tradition. Shane Mason, a nursing student and nonbinary Gardnerian in New York City, was resolute.

“There was sadness, and anger, of course, but also resolve,” they said. “Determination to continue living authentically as myself, and to continue honoring the gods and ancestors of my tradition as I have always done. No ‘declaration’ with a few dozen signatures is going to prevent me from doing that.”

Like Aburrow and Magdalene, Mason views the declaration’s authors and its supporters as outnumbered.

“I can’t help but feel like the small segment of the Gardnerian community who are so adamant about gatekeeping the tradition from gender nonconforming practitioners know good and well that they are in the extreme minority,” they said, “and that their position is becoming less and less popular as the world evolves and changes.”

This tracks with Mason’s overall journey in the Gardenarian tradition. When Mason began seeking out training a decade ago, a few people in the wider Pagan community suggested that they might face discrimination, but Mason found the opposite.

“The first time I met the local Gardnerian coven at a Pagan Expo, they had a typed sign in a frame on their information table. It read: ‘We are non-racist, non-sexist, and non-homophobic – and expect our students to be also.’ When I answer e-mails from seekers these days, I tend to include a similar statement about inclusion,” Mason explained. “The vast majority of Gardnerians I know are wonderful, loving, generous people. But like any cross section of the population, there are going to be a handful of people you want to steer clear of. Being a Witch doesn’t necessarily make someone a good person.”

Instead of focusing on the negativity of the declaration, Mason is determined to recognize the progress that has been made in the Pagan community, and to move forward.

“The tide of progress cannot be stemmed. I have been focusing on the mysteries of the Craft as I interpret them, and on the group that I run. I have a flourishing coven of my own initiates, as well as an Outer Court (training group), so I’m busy attending to their needs, and don’t have a ton of extra time to argue fruitlessly with people on the internet.”

Magdalene strikes a similarly defiant tone. She casts the declaration’s authors in the wider context of an increasingly more inclusive magical community that does not tolerate transphobic rhetoric.

“The folks who put together this “declaration” are a loud minority within the broader community, one that’s quickly rendering itself persona non grata within that community,” she said. “They claim to be the only ones practicing Gardnerian Craft the ‘one, true, right, and only’ way, but the reality is that they’re actually the ones deviating from the traditions and precedents set by our Elders. I see no reason to let their bad faith attempts to co-opt the narrative interfere with my practice of the Craft, or my communion with our Gods.”
 
NOT true, there are some hotties into wicca, but they're fucked.

It's 97% fatties, the remaining 3% is split equally between nerdy gen X girls with BPD and drug problems, teen girls with daddy issues and the dudes that groom them.

So many stories of high school goff chicks having to do naked rituals in front of weird old coven leader dudes
You forget the small minority of lesbians. Unfortunately I think wicca is default affiliated with Nurgle. They're usually some kind of crunchy...
 
It's a fake and gay religion, but to the extent that it exists as a fake and gay creation of phonies and fags, it really is based on male/female polarity/duality and spiritualizing the sex act, so they're right to defend it from genderblobbery. Big picture, they're wrong about absolutely everything. But insofar as this larp is important to them, peepee vs hoohaw really is central to the whole thing.
 
You know what? I’m not even mad because this is gonna be hilarious. Armies of fat women dressed like Stevie Nicks versus men dressed as Hermoine from Harry Potter fighting over a fake religion no one actually owns since it’s all make believe made by perverts to creep on insecure women.
 
So going by the first line I take it that the thing being REEEEEEEEEEEE'd about is something plainly clear and totally uncontroversial? That's the only time someone talks about something in such a way. When it's totally normal and correct but the complainer doesn't like it.



Are you telling me that Wiccans actually believe their horseshit. I thought they were just a parody movement ala Satanists.

lol You need to go take a look at a few of their subs and SM hangouts... The LARP is no LARP for a good number of them. Also don't forget the kavanaugh nom "curses" from these types.
 
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It's a fake and gay religion, but to the extent that it exists as a fake and gay creation of phonies and fags, it really is based on male/female polarity/duality and spiritualizing the sex act, so they're right to defend it from genderblobbery. Big picture, they're wrong about absolutely everything. But insofar as this larp is important to them, peepee vs hoohaw really is central to the whole thing.
This. If you dig into the origins of Wicca, it'sa fairly honest attempt at creating a pre-christian British pagan religion, based on surviving fragments. They didn't get a whole lot right but they didn't get that much totally wrong, either. The seasons turn, men and women create little people, and die.

At least a proper wiccan probably has a stash of mead somewhere so it's better than fucking Islam.

Modern "Wicca" is fucking emoji spells and shit pinched from Harry potter. If there's a few old guard left who know about male, female, and the inevitability of the harvest, more power to them.
 
This. If you dig into the origins of Wicca, it'sa fairly honest attempt at creating a pre-christian British pagan religion, based on surviving fragments. They didn't get a whole lot right but they didn't get that much totally wrong, either. The seasons turn, men and women create little people, and die.

At least a proper wiccan probably has a stash of mead somewhere so it's better than fucking Islam.

Modern "Wicca" is fucking emoji spells and shit pinched from Harry potter. If there's a few old guard left who know about male, female, and the inevitability of the harvest, more power to them.
Wicca was a sex cult Gardner started in order to get laid. There are some other pagan religious movements that have a bit more rigor in terms of adhering what was known about the druids and other pre-Christian European religions. Nonetheless, Wicca is centered around nature and the male/female binary is a constant focus, with sex being its Great Rite. Denying biological reality in favor of 100 genders goes against its grain at the most basic level.

Bonus: Do you know what Wicca and Mormonism have in common? They both copied their rituals from Freemasonry.
 
This was inevitable. Any religion or cult based around the duality of male and female and the reproductive cycles in nature is doomed to be destroyed by the trans ideology.

Not even in flaky pagan cults is the idea of “man + woman = life” safe.
I look forward to the fallout of trannyism. It’s going to be sweet.
 
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It's a fake and gay religion, but to the extent that it exists as a fake and gay creation of phonies and fags, it really is based on male/female polarity/duality and spiritualizing the sex act, so they're right to defend it from genderblobbery. Big picture, they're wrong about absolutely everything. But insofar as this larp is important to them, peepee vs hoohaw really is central to the whole thing.
If it's all about male/female duality why is it full of dykes?
 
Oh is it that time of year already?
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Don your capotains and tights niggas, we gonna have ourselves an old timey roastie roast

It's always skeeved me out how there's an entire subgroup ofpeople involved in new age woowoo ""magic"" bullshit that unironically act like the innocent people that died in kangaroo court witch trials were totally actually witches and spiritually their ancestors or whatever. Shit's absolutely fucked and I hate it.
Wicca is like Satanism for ugly fat girls who were ignored by men and never grew out of their high school daddy issues.
Satanists also do the thing I mentioned and are equally as laughable as wiccans. Don't think they're actually hardcore because they claim to worship the fucking devil they're fully fucking pozzed tot he point you cannot fucking take them seriously especially after you realize all their symbols are just yoinked pop culture "satan" icons that are actually unrelated spiritualist/christian icons they lack knowledge of because their whole worldview is basically just "christianity bad!!!! :C"
 
@NoReturn girl I need to make sure you see this. :story:

It's such a bonkers slapfight to me: the religion IS based around that. TurdFondler is right (man I love Kiwi Farms usernames letting me say batshit like this), you can male your own denomination. The damn thing started as a bunch of nerds attempting to revive their cultural heritage (but mostly get laid), considering we know a bit more about past paganism now and how many pagan religions and sects opened up over the years, why not head to one of those?

The real question is were you really into the religion if you didn't know a great amount of emphasis was put on the cycle of life and the innate power of our bodies and the role of reproduction being both good and equal and to embrace it? This is a "you" problem if you were retarded enough to get into this knowing that in the first place.

At least a proper wiccan probably has a stash of mead
I can't be upset at nerds who do LARP rituals as comfort and usually produce something out of it. Like, if you learn a new skill or actually commit to your worship without being dicks to others, I'm fine with it even if I think you look ridiculous.

Most tiktock and social media Wiccans are more secularly leaning or do their own thing, as they are lazy tendie eating fucks who only know how to eat hot chip and Bullshit.

If it's all about male/female duality why is it full of dykes?
Woman empowerment. It allows more woman power than most other religions, which attracts lesbians since you know, vagina and all. Some sects differ from others on how much men and women have power, most are either equal or matriarchal. For feminist & lesbians who enjoy spirituality, it was the best option as opposed to say the Abrahamic religions. Now more religions & religious sects have recognized women as spiritual equals at the very least, so there's a bit more diversity.
 
I thought Gardnerian was that pickled vegetable salad that comes in a jar. :lol:

Darnit! Now I'll never get to make glitter jars without trannies being involved. Fuck this gay Earth!
 
If it really is all about sex maybe it’s not the worst idea to learn to use tarot cards to help get laid.

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If it really is all about sex maybe it’s not the worst idea to learn to use tarot cards to help get laid.

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Mildly unrelated but I wonder if this is like other disney "villains" merch shit where itincludes characters that aren't villains like the fucking cheshire cat I remember seeing some fucking "disney villains monopoly" in a store years ago and on one hand it had the fucking horned king which was surprising but onthe other it had a bunch of shit outoffucking place non-villain characters. Like you got the fucking WALUIGI MOUSE and fucking PETE as iconic disney antagonists yet neither ofthem are IN the fucking monopoly game. Fucking corporate dogshit they couldn't even get shit right lmao.
 
@NoReturn girl I need to make sure you see this. :story:

It's such a bonkers slapfight to me: the religion IS based around that. TurdFondler is right (man I love Kiwi Farms usernames letting me say batshit like this), you can male your own denomination. The damn thing started as a bunch of nerds attempting to revive their cultural heritage (but mostly get laid), considering we know a bit more about past paganism now and how many pagan religions and sects opened up over the years, why not head to one of those?

The real question is were you really into the religion if you didn't know a great amount of emphasis was put on the cycle of life and the innate power of our bodies and the role of reproduction being both good and equal and to embrace it? This is a "you" problem if you were retarded enough to get into this knowing that in the first place.


I can't be upset at nerds who do LARP rituals as comfort and usually produce something out of it. Like, if you learn a new skill or actually commit to your worship without being dicks to others, I'm fine with it even if I think you look ridiculous.

Most tiktock and social media Wiccans are more secularly leaning or do their own thing, as they are lazy tendie eating fucks who only know how to eat hot chip and Bullshit.


Woman empowerment. It allows more woman power than most other religions, which attracts lesbians since you know, vagina and all. Some sects differ from others on how much men and women have power, most are either equal or matriarchal. For feminist & lesbians who enjoy spirituality, it was the best option as opposed to say the Abrahamic religions. Now more religions & religious sects have recognized women as spiritual equals at the very least, so there's a bit more diversity.
Oh I get that, but if the whole thing is indeed built off of male/female duality then you'd think they'd prosecute faggots like the pagan celts and norse did. Either go full or don't go.
 
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