US Donald Trump Announces Mar-A-Lago "Raided, Under Siege, And Occupied" By The FBI - "They just left," one source said.

Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/donald-trump-says-mar-lago-raided-under-siege-fbi
Archive: https://archive.ph/Ti1fC

Donald Trump Announces Mar-A-Lago "Raided, Under Siege, And Occupied" By The FBI​

BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, AUG 08, 2022 - 04:08 PM
Moments ago, Donald Trump - who is still banned by Twitter - published a statement on Truth Social in which he said that his Florida home, Mar A Lago is “currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents", an assault which according to Trump "could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries." He is probably right. He also claims the Fed's presence was unannounced and the reason was politically motivated.
His full statement posted on his Truth Social account is below:
Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the
United States of America
These are dark times for our Nation, as my beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents. Nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before. After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate. It is prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don't want me to run for President in 2024, especially based on recent polls, and who will likewise do anything to stop Republicans and Conservatives in the upcoming Midterm Elections. Such an assault could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries. Sadly, America has now become one of those Countries, corrupt at a level not seen before. They even broke into my safe! What is the difference between this and Watergate, where operatives broke into the Democrat National Committee? Here, in reverse, Democrats broke into the home of the 45th President of the United States.
The political persecution of President Donald J. Trump has been going on for years, with the now fully debunked Russia, Russia, Russia Scam, Impeachment Hoax #1, Impeachment Hoax #2, and so much more, it just never ends. It is political targeting at the highest level!
Hillary Clinton was allowed to delete and acid wash 33,000 E-mails AFTER they were subpoenaed by Congress. Absolutely nothing has happened to hold her accountable. She even took antique furniture, and other items from the White House.
I stood up to America's bureaucratic corruption, I restored power to the people, and truly delivered for our Country, like we have never seen before. The establishment hated it. Now, as they watch my endorsed candidates win big victories, and see my dominance in all polls, they are trying to stop me, and the Republican Party, once more. The lawlessness, political persecution, and Witch Hunt must be exposed and stopped.

I will continue to fight for the Great American People!
Local reporters confirmed the raid, saying the FBI executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago. "They just left," although it isn't clear what the search was about.
1660001244790.png
While we await more information on what the FBI was doing at Mar-A-Lago or what they may have found, here are some kneejeak reactions.
1660001264749.png1660001282191.png



Bonus: I shit you not this comment from @SPhobos was at the top of this page when I added the archive link.
1660001457311.png
 
Then you don't know what a rubicon moment is. Trump has no army. No capital to be seiged. Crossing the rubicon was a declaration of war on Rome.
Julius Caesar led part of the apparatus of Roman power. Pompey led another part. When Caesar crossed the Rubicon, those two parts were now at war, and the only resolution would be by blood.
I get that you two are deeply autistic, but you do understand what a figure of speech is? Saying so-and-so 'crossed the Rubicon' doesn't literally mean 'OMG IT'S JUST LIKE ROME IN 49BC'. It generally means that a point of no return has been crossed. Arguably that's what this is.

Going into excruciating, autistic detail about why this situation isn't exactly like Caesar's in 49BC (no two situations in history ever are exactly alike anyway) doesn't actually make you look intelligent. It sort of makes it look like you missed the point.
 
I get that you two are deeply autistic, but you do understand what a figure of speech is? Saying so-and-so 'crossed the Rubicon' doesn't literally mean 'OMG IT'S JUST LIKE ROME IN 49BC'. It generally means that a point of no return has been crossed. Arguably that's what this is.

Going into excruciating, autistic detail about why this situation isn't exactly like Caesar's in 49BC (no two situations in history ever are exactly alike anyway) doesn't actually make you look intelligent. It sort of makes it look like you missed the point.
Meh. I liked the posts
 
Then you don't know what a rubicon moment is. Trump has no army. No capital to be seiged. Crossing the rubicon was a declaration of war on Rome. Rome had already declared war on ceasar and he was supposed to take it up the ass like a good citizen and maybe he and his family live. You know when Trump had that opportunity? When he knew the election was stolen. He didn't do anything about it.

This raid isn't leading to a civil war right now. The right isn't up in arms doing anything. Can you imagine how many riots there'd be going on right now if this happened to Hillary when Trump was in office? The talk is just that, talk. Nobody is going to do anything violent. The populist party that's replacing the Republicans hopefully gets stronger and the Rinos die out. But that's it. The right loves to say "the dems went too far this time! Just wait until the shoe is on the other foot!" You'd be dead for several years several times over if you held your breath everytime they said that.
The issue here is the right has always been on the side of supporting government institutions. Support our Troops, Back the Blue, do your duty, etc, have all be right wing mantras.

The paradigm shift here is the institutions are moving to be on the same side as the rioters in the streets, as well becoming armed agents of the same party that deployed the rioters. This psychological shift in thinking does take time.

I think what has so upset people "on the right", and why they are calling this a "rubicon" is not because they think Trump is going to March on Washington with an Army. Rather it's the fact they have reached the mental conclusion that the Federal Beaurocracy and its principle law enforcement arms serve political ends, and not constitutional one's. That is a huge red pill to swallow.
 
I get that you two are deeply autistic, but you do understand what a figure of speech is? Saying so-and-so 'crossed the Rubicon' doesn't literally mean 'OMG IT'S JUST LIKE ROME IN 49BC'. It generally means that a point of no return has been crossed. Arguably that's what this is.
it's annoying even if you're not austistic though because the players are switched. it's supposed to be Trump who crosses the Rubicon.
 
I get that you two are deeply autistic, but you do understand what a figure of speech is? Saying so-and-so 'crossed the Rubicon' doesn't literally mean 'OMG IT'S JUST LIKE ROME IN 49BC'. It generally means that a point of no return has been crossed. Arguably that's what this is.

Going into excruciating, autistic detail about why this situation isn't exactly like Caesar's in 49BC (no two situations in history ever are exactly alike anyway) doesn't actually make you look intelligent. It sort of makes it look like you missed the point.
The point is there's not going to be any sort of institutional crisis over Biden deciding to sic the FBI on Trump and whatever GOP Congressmen they feel are vulnerable to J6-related charges. Most of the Republicans and all the Democrats will be on the same side. The American people aren't going to "rise up." It's just gonna happen. The system is purging threats by isolating them, marginalizing them, and then, when they're at their weakest, destroying them.
 
They're heavily fortified and heavily guarded.
didnt they have massive problems with those?
also just sneak in by telling them that you are the UPS guy delivering an order of floppydisks you lost 20 years ago and recently rediscovered in a warehouse.
 
  • Like
Reactions: IAmNotAlpharius
The point is there's not going to be any sort of institutional crisis over Biden deciding to sic the FBI on Trump and whatever GOP Congressmen they feel are vulnerable to J6-related charges. Most of the Republicans and all the Democrats will be on the same side. The American people aren't going to "rise up." It's just gonna happen. The system is purging threats by isolating them, marginalizing them, and then, when they're at their weakest, destroying them.
Did I say anything about anybody rising up? Again, you have missed the point. It does no good to say 'NoThinG's GoInG To HaPpEN'. Something has already happened. The FBI has raided the home of a former President, with flimsy pretext at best, and they plan to prosecute him, and take him out of the running, again with flimsy pretext.

There is no coming back from this for the FBI. Either they go for broke and seize complete control, or they get brought to heel and disbanded. Either way, the game has changed, the game will not be the same as before
 
didnt they have massive problems with those?
Two sets of command areas had problems with drugs and not following protocol. People went to prison.
also just sneak in by telling them that you are the UPS guy delivering an order of floppydisks you lost 20 years ago and recently rediscovered in a warehouse.
Yeah, that ain't happening.

I'd have just shot the dude and worried about it later. He saw the sign.
 
Is Rubicon a place?
Yes, it's a river North of Rome. By law, no Roman General was allowed to March troops south of the Rubicon River and thus threatened Rome itself. When Ceasar crossed the Rubicon with his army, he was declaring the law no longer applied to him and natural justice would take it course through the application of naked force unrestrained by any law made by man.
 
I'm not being smug at all.

I'm merely enjoying the viewing of this alternative world you guys live in where rather than accept a jury or court decision, you'd prefer to make up fairy tales as to why the verdict went the way it did rather than ever read the transcripts of become failure with the actual law that was broken.

It is much easier to blame conspiracy than it is to read. I understand it is hard to read for you guys and I have sympathy for you.
It really doesn't matter what the jury or court decision says at this point. About half the country will accept it as truth (e.g. you and the cities) and about half the country will consider it kangaroo court (e.g. the majority of this thread and the countryside). Since history is written by the winners and both sides are continually escalating to an inevitable conflict of force, who is right will be decided by who wins and writes the history books.

Right now, you have at least one state governor who has nullified an active federal law (DeSantis), likely to be followed by several others. I'd like to stress that this hasn't happened since 1861. DeSantis has also threatened to arrest any federal agents that attempt to arrest Trump or execute further warrants on MAL. Let's say the FBI successfully went court shopping again and a 70% Democrat district court convicts Trump of, well anything, what happens then? What happens if Florida state police arrest federal agents? I get how you'd recognize whatever was presented to you as a legitimate decision, but a significant portion of the country will not see it your way.

Finally, if you consider January 6th to be an insurrection attempt, you should realize that the sentiment for insurrection has grown with this recent development, not diminished. Frankly, your side is blundering by continually trying to turn Trump into a martyr as it's just galvanizing the right. Even Trump was smart enough not to actually arrest Hillary Clinton because he would've faced the exact same problem: only his half of the country would consider the legal action legitimate. I seriously can't think of anything that would destabilize this country more than Trump being arrested or killed in the next few years - can you?
 
Yes, it's a river North of Rome. By law, no Roman General was allowed to March troops south of the Rubicon River and thus threatened Rome itself. When Ceasar crossed the Rubicon with his army, he was declaring the law no longer applied to him and natural justice would take it course through the application of naked force unrestrained by any law made by man.
Caesar was a pimp.
 
I'm not being smug at all.

I'm merely enjoying the viewing of this alternative world you guys live in where rather than accept a jury or court decision, you'd prefer to make up fairy tales as to why the verdict went the way it did rather than ever read the transcripts of become failure with the actual law that was broken.

It is much easier to blame conspiracy than it is to read. I understand it is hard to read for you guys and I have sympathy for you.
You're not being smug. You are being your typical retarded self. Yo are not fooling anyone. Not even yourself.

It really doesn't matter what the jury or court decision says at this point. About half the country will accept it as truth (e.g. you and the cities) and about half the country will consider it kangaroo court (e.g. the majority of this thread and the countryside). Since history is written by the winners and both sides are continually escalating to an inevitable conflict of force, who is right will be decided by who wins and writes the history books.

Right now, you have at least one state governor who has nullified an active federal law (DeSantis), likely to be followed by several others. I'd like to stress that this hasn't happened since 1861. DeSantis has also threatened to arrest any federal agents that attempt to arrest Trump or execute further warrants on MAL. Let's say the FBI successfully went court shopping again and a 70% Democrat district court convicts Trump of, well anything, what happens then? What happens if Florida state police arrest federal agents? I get how you'd recognize whatever was presented to you as a legitimate decision, but a significant portion of the country will not see it your way.

Finally, if you consider January 6th to be an insurrection attempt, you should realize that the sentiment for insurrection has grown with this recent development, not diminished. Frankly, your side is blundering by continually trying to turn Trump into a martyr as it's just galvanizing the right. Even Trump was smart enough not to actually arrest Hillary Clinton because he would've faced the exact same problem: only his half of the country would consider the legal action legitimate. I seriously can't think of anything that would destabilize this country more than Trump being arrested or killed in the next few years - can you?
It's fucking amazing how we're ruled by people who don't even know the very basics of keeping the peace. But it makes sense, since they think they can rewrite the basic rules of human nature and reality into whatever they please by retarded language games, not realizing they changed nothing and make themselves less intelligent and less sane. This is the core of clown world: basically retarded niggers that think they are God playing themselves.
 
Last edited:
Presidential elections are in 2 years, and he can’t run while in prison.
He absolutely can.

Eugene V. Debs was in an Atlanta penitentiary, serving a ten-year sentence, when he lost the 1920 presidential election. Two years earlier, Debs, a labor leader, had spoken out against America’s involvement in World War I. He was convicted of violating the Espionage Act of 1917, after the prosecution argued that his antiwar speech obstructed military enrollment. The 1920 loss didn’t come as a surprise to Debs, who had run four times before. His fifth and final run, promoted with a campaign button that read “For President Convict No. 9653,” brought him nearly one million votes.
 
Last edited:
None.

Now I say this because nobody cares what happens to their politicians. They'll rant on Twitter, print news articles, maybe strike. But, overall, there's no energy with those kind of people unless it affects them or it could be exploited for control disguised as social justice.
Lol. This is incredibly wrong. You think the Summer of Love was a grass roots thing? The FBI had active drones flying over Kenosha. That wasn't just for surveillance. If this had happened to Hillary antifa would be out in the streets in every major city!
What the hell is a rubicon?
A river in Italy that no general of Rome was legally allowed to cross with their army.
I get that you two are deeply autistic, but you do understand what a figure of speech is? Saying so-and-so 'crossed the Rubicon' doesn't literally mean 'OMG IT'S JUST LIKE ROME IN 49BC'. It generally means that a point of no return has been crossed. Arguably that's what this is.

Going into excruciating, autistic detail about why this situation isn't exactly like Caesar's in 49BC (no two situations in history ever are exactly alike anyway) doesn't actually make you look intelligent. It sort of makes it look like you missed the point.
Did I say anything about anybody rising up? Again, you have missed the point. It does no good to say 'NoThinG's GoInG To HaPpEN'. Something has already happened. The FBI has raided the home of a former President, with flimsy pretext at best, and they plan to prosecute him, and take him out of the running, again with flimsy pretext.

There is no coming back from this for the FBI. Either they go for broke and seize complete control, or they get brought to heel and disbanded. Either way, the game has changed, the game will not be the same as before
The point of crossing the Rubicon is only on the most general sense a point of no return. The reason that term is used is not for the point of no return but for Ceasar declaring war on the Senate. Which in this metaphor would be Trump declaring war on the Uniparty. People using it in the way they are would be more accurate if Senate declaring war on Julius. Which is what happened and is why he crossed the Rubicon in the first place. It may be autistic but it shows a complete lack of understanding of what happened in 2020. The stolen election was the actual declaration of war. Trump not doing anything was him choosing not to cross said said Rubicon. The raid is a consequence of that inaction.

Telling me there's no coming back from what the FBI did is the same thing conservatives say everytime the left continues in their march for power. I don't believe anything will come of this at all. Because even if Trump wins in 2024 if he tries to do anything retributive to the FBI or the Dems for this the Republicans and conservatives will cry foul and agree with the dems and the media that he is going beyond the pail and his actions will be/are a threat to out democracy.

You think this White House is going to do anything to bring the FBI to heel? You sweet summer child, you have the relationship completely mixed up.
 
Caesar was a pimp.
In a way. The crossing of the Rubicon is such a big deal in western philosophy to this day more then 2,000 years later because it presents some very uncomfortable arguments.

On the one side you have the argument of the Roman Senate. Ceasar was incredibly popular with the under classes, and the military. It was obvious he was using both for his own self aggrandizement, and his rise was a direct threat to the established power structure in Rome. When they invoked the law against Ceasar, he was fucked. As a citizen it was his duty to obey the authority.

At the same time though, that authority had become Unjust. The Senate had essentially passed both an ex post facto law and a bill of attainder targeting ceasar personally. He was ordered to return to Rome to answer for his "crimes". He chose instead to return to Rome with the 13th Legion. Ever wondered how the number 13 wormed its way into western superstition too?

It was a momentous moment, made all the more momentous by the fact Caesar won, breaking the law and the Senate at a stroke. And the western world has spent 2,000 years trying to figure it out. The general consensus reached was that Caesar DID break the law, but the law had become corrupt. This is one reason why ex post facto laws and bills of attainder are banned in the US constitution and pretty much every other country in Europe.
 
I agree with your post but I am not sure about this concept anymore. You'd have to EMP shitload of the Earth's surface to erase the video, audio and written truth anymore.
You don't need to erase it, everything naturally falls down the memory hole as it's buried by the constant stream of new information being generated. You just need to be selective of what gets fished back out of the memory hole and remembered.
 
I agree with your post but I am not sure about this concept anymore. You'd have to EMP shitload of the Earth's surface to erase the video, audio and written truth anymore.
Lol, let's say there's video of Trump killing a hooker with a sledgehammer and the FBI just recovered the body at MAL. Do you really think that'd convince the MAGA crowd of anything? It'll just be called planted deepfake evidence and more proof that the neo-KGB is after Trump.

We also already know what'll happen if Trump is objectively innocent - the exonerating evidence won't see coverage outside of Fox news and Tucker Carlson. The truth literally doesn't matter anymore because battle lines are being drawn. I'll recognize that we're still in a window where de-escalation is possible but neither side is currently on a trajectory for de-escalation.
 
Back