The Trouble With Being Born - Steven Spielberg's A. I. + Lolita

[Ahriman]

Ten-year-old Elli is an android. She loves the man she calls “Daddy” and is the vessel for his memories, which mean nothing to her, but everything to him. A formally dense and provocative invitation into the realm of virtual and psychological reality.

Berlin Hidden Gem: Underage Robotic Provocation in 'The Trouble With Being Born'

Sandra Wollner's drama about a 10-year-old android and her "Daddy" could prove to be one of the festival's most divisive.

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...Move along goy, nothing to see here, definitely not normalizing of pedophilia!

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

Ok then.
I kind of want to see this just to see where they go with the premise. Done right, it could be very interesting as a moral dilemma about A.I and such, but I have a feeling it won’t be.
My feeling is that it will be less like the film A.I mixed with the Sublime song Wrong Way, and more like The Shape Of Water.

 

[Icasaracht]

Steven Spielberg’s A.I. Artificial Intelligence meets Lolita. Yawn.

 

[Ahriman]

Steven Spielberg’s A.I. Artificial Intelligence meets Lolita. Yawn.

That's a more accurate comparison, I'll actually change the title.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Addressing certain subject matter doesn't mean condoning it, just because the movie might deal with pedophilia doesn't mean it's on the pro side or trying to "normalize" it.

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

Addressing certain subject matter doesn't mean condoning it, just because the movie might deal with pedophilia doesn't mean it's on the pro side or trying to "normalize" it.

That’s a very good thing for people to realize. Some of the best films and stories have been about morally weird protagonists, and sometimes told through their own rationalization. Joker is a recent example, it’s about a crazy guy killing some people and sparking riots and learning to love murder, but that’s the point. Arthur being relatable challenges the viewer to juxtapose their morals with the protagonist.
It’s all about how it’s told. It’s hard to explain, but you can just kind of tell when something passes the line from telling a story to condoning it.

 

[Freya]

If this was an anime, everyone here would love it lol

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

If this was an anime, everyone here would love it lol

Loli anime sucks

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Being the darling of the European film festival circuit is a pretty good indication that the film in question is pozzed all to hell.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

That’s a very good thing for people to realize. Some of the best films and stories have been about morally weird protagonists, and sometimes told through their own rationalization. Joker is a recent example, it’s about a crazy guy killing some people and sparking riots and learning to love murder, but that’s the point. Arthur being relatable challenges the viewer to juxtapose their morals with the protagonist.
It’s all about how it’s told. It’s hard to explain, but you can just kind of tell when something passes the line from telling a story to condoning it.

Except Joker is shit and Arthur isn't relatable. Otherwise you're right: stories don't always have to be told from the perspective of a good person to have good messages.

 

[Robert James]

Can we just start nuking Europe already.

I get you have to approach uncomfortable subjects to make statements about them and art is one of the best ways to start dealing with them but the fact that the European film festival loves this makes me feel uneasy. This will be less about exploring what it is to be human and the implications of keeping an intelligence at the mental age of a child and more about filmakers being able to openly admit they fuck kids. I mean the fact that they fucking put "daddy" in quotes kind of gives away it's going to be a weird sex thing.

 

[Book Thief]

I suppose it's wise not to judge it too harshly before the full movie comes out, but I'll be damned if that isn't an alienating premise.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Addressing certain subject matter doesn't mean condoning it, just because the movie might deal with pedophilia doesn't mean it's on the pro side or trying to "normalize" it.

This. Art should be able to address any subject.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I'll guess it will be with a twist the android had her "mother's" memories all along and wasn't the daughter. The question is whether it will be the creepy pedo shit or some shitty allusion to refugees.

 

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The android pedophile film won an award
https://twitter.com/berlinale/status/1233823071460626434
it's coming to New York
https://twitter.com/AnneLaurentD/status/1230749541139275777

more about filmakers being able to openly admit they fuck kids.

This is very clearly just exploring the premise of whether it's OK to fuck synthetic kids, no need to 'satanic panic' about it. The 10 year old actual child being humped by the middle aged man in the film was clothed, and they removed the clothes in post, so clearly nothing strange is happening here.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

The android pedophile film won an award
https://twitter.com/berlinale/status/1233823071460626434
it's coming to New York
https://twitter.com/AnneLaurentD/status/1230749541139275777

This is very clearly just exploring the premise of whether it's OK to fuck synthetic kids, no need to 'satanic panic' about it. The 10 year old actual child being humped by the middle aged man in the film was clothed, and they removed the clothes in post, so clearly nothing strange is happening here.

I'm supposed to feel comforted by that?

 

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I'm supposed to feel comforted by that?

Don't ask me. Ask the people who make your culture.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Get over yourselves, Puritans.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

Wtf happened to this movie?

 

[Product Placement]

Wtf happened to this movie?

looking up it came out, it's on MUBI here. But just seems everyone forgot about it

but found this from july 2020

Melbourne International Film Festival dumps android child sex film

The festival dropped the prize-winning movie after a leading forensic psychologist warned it "normalises sexual interest in children".

www.theage.com.au

and then that pissed off these two

Film critics slam festival for dumping controversial Austrian robosex movie

David Stratton is among those who have attacked MIFF's decision to withdraw a movie after claims it 'normalises sexual interest in children'.

www.theage.com.au

got a 92% on RT but only has 13 reviews

The Trouble with Being Born - Movie Reviews

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One review quote is just "Can one have an inappropriate relationship with an underage android?"


from wiki it says
Director and co-writer Sandra Wollner has referred to the film as the "antithesis to Pinocchio".[9] Wollner initially intended to cast a 20-year-old actress in the role of the android Elli, but after editing some of the more explicit elements from the film's script, instead chose 10-year-old actress Lena Watson (a stage name, inspired by Emma Watson)[9] for the role.[4][9] The scenes in which the android is shown nude were accomplished using computer-generated imagery.[4][5] Watson also wore a silicone mask and wig, which served to both conceal her identity and enable her to resemble another actress who appears later in the film.[9][10]

The Trouble with Being Born (film) - Wikipedia

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