Aug 11 2022 - Case updated with "Waive right to indictment" and "transportation order" - Review scheduled for next year

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Not true at all happens all the time, even in communist Canada. Has nothing to do with being a felon (and never did)

I don't know what they do in Canada but here those have been found unconstitutional, at least going to an outright ban. If he's living under a halfway house rules there might be more restrictions but they really in general do not totally restrict the internet anymore like they did in the late 90s. Back then the internet was still thought of a luxury instead of as a utility and just so common that you couldn't totally ban it.
 
HIPAA would prevent his caregivers from sharing information but not him from sharing information. Seems extremely likely to me we will get letters to help piece together whatever's going on in his wacky terrible life if the public record is obscured.
Really? then how come he never sent letters from western state? are the rule different between full on tard/halfway homes and mental hospitals?
The 'No internet' rules are essentially non existent now, even for released felons. But depending on conditions, I could see them requiring all his logins. If he is in a group home, it may be even more restricted.
As it was said in the last thread it really depends on where he ends up. Tard/group homes could vary from a "summer camp" style camp with a full staff, to a house with only four other members and a skeleton crew of caregivers. Either way his internet will be severely limited. He may not even be allowed to use at first and has to earn it. Even when/if he ever gets back online it'll be monitored severely. Beyond the obvious "no porn" his social media posts will be watched and "censored." almost like when a school class is using the computers and a teacher is watching the students screens remotely.


Well nothing left to do now but wait for morning and see what happens next...
 
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What's bugging me is the "Review" on 08/08/2023 looking to be the next time anything is to be done with his case. My speculation:
1). Chris is out on Probation/halfway house with 1 year probation having taken some pre-trial deal
2). (Unlikely) Chris has been sentenced to prison with the possibility of parole in one year from now

I can't really think what else that could mean.
in virginia that means it's an attorney review date which is extremely confusing to me. If he was released on probation it supposedly would say "review progress". As per google;
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@Pointless Sperg can you make sense of this, is this a "bumfuck VA court" thing, or is did chris tell heilberg to fuck off/vice versa? these lawyers responses make no sense in context
There's also this;
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Really? then how come he never sent letters from western state? are the rule different between full on tard/halfway homes and mental hospitals?

As it was said in the last thread it really depends on where he ends up. Tard/group homes could vary from a "summer camp" style camp with a full staff, to a house with only four other members and a skeleton crew of caregivers. Either way his internet will be severely limited. He may not even be allowed to use at first and has to earn it. Even when/if he ever gets back online it'll be monitored severely. Beyond the obvious "no porn" his social media posts will be watched and "censored." almost like when a school class is using the computers and a teacher is watching the students screens remotely.


Well nothing left to do now but wait for morning and see what happens next...

I had to look up the case law, it has to have a relation to the crime but they are starting to become very uncommon. Even for registered sex offenders it is rarely done anymore, but especially in Chris's case because his offense did not really have anything to do with the internet. So beyond what they would normally require from sex offenders if he is in fact required to register as one, he may at worst have to give all his logins.
 
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I've met plenty of autists who have the mind of a child and they would never even consider raping someone, let alone their own mother. Chris has the mind of someone with no impulse control or empathy which is far worse than most children let alone an adult.

Actual quote I've said to someone, "It's okay to be similar to Chris Chan, but you do not want to be Chris Chan. ".

The point being, you can be autistic, trans, like kids stuff, and still be a decent person.

But let that shit run your life? You are simply fucked. You will turn into an irredeemable piece of shit.
 
so will vine and the charges still be followed or are we pretty much in the dark from here on out? can we expect an update tomorrow or is everything no longer publicly available? if he went to a tard home or other medical facility then we;\'re SOL, even if the case wasn't sealed/closed they wouldn't tell us since hippa bars info like that from being disclosed.
Many people have said this, but VINE is designed as a way for victims to keep track of people, among other things—i.e., a domestic violence victim is notified when her convicted husband is released, so she is able to take necessary precautions to protect herself. Sealing VINE from updating on Chris would be unsafe—if Barb cared and was watching, she would have the right to know Chris had been released.
 
If Chris took some kind of plea deal, he will likely show up on the sex offender registry in the short term. While it's possible that Chris' lawyer could have got him a deal pleading to charges that wouldn't get him on the registry, that sounds to me like a prosecutor/judge not doing their job. Chris is the type of person the registry is made for, I just can't see him not getting the scarlet letter, as that seems to be the bare minimum of punishment.

Seeing as his incest charge was going in front of the GJ, there really isn't a lesser charge that's related to Incest that doesn't carry being registered (from the VA offender list).
chris is, and has proven himself through the years to be a very unstable and dangerous person, if he is let out to just be in the free world i hope the lynch mob goes after him hard. i really hope though that hes either gonna be in the mental ward , or a secure group home, if he does not go to prison. As long as hes locked up, im sure most of the world will be happy and can rest easy he wont hurt anyone anymore, not without swift and harsh consequences .
 
Many people have said this, but VINE is designed as a way for victims to keep track of people, among other things—i.e., a domestic violence victim is notified when her convicted husband is released, so she is able to take necessary precautions to protect herself. Sealing VINE from updating on Chris would be unsafe—if Barb cared and was watching, she would have the right to know Chris had been released.
when chris was sent to the mental hospital for evaluation, it didn't say where on vine. It just said he was transferred to "another facility" instead of specifically the hospital.
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Im not sure if this has been brought up yet but this doesnt look like a release or a transfer for a group home.

Waive right to indictment doesnt mean that the State waived their right, it means that Chris waived his right. This is from a paper about The Grand Jury & Capital Murder:

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I believe this means the trial is proceeding without the need for a Grand Jury.
 
when chris was sent to the mental hospital for evaluation, it didn't say where on vine. It just said he was transferred to "another facility" instead of specifically the hospital.
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Absolutely, because Chris has a right to privacy or HIPAA or something. VINE is intended to alert you when the person is released—Chris was not released when put into Western State, just transferred into another secure facility.

There's a murder case about a woman who was murdered by her stalker when VINE failed to properly update his release (Mary Lynn Witherspoon; it was 2003, so VINE ran through phone call and snail mail; she never received a phone call or a letter, iirc). It isn't a tool to doxx prisoners, but one to inform victims of release.
 
Absolutely, because Chris has a right to privacy or HIPAA or something. VINE is intended to alert you when the person is released—Chris was not released when put into Western State, just transferred into another secure facility.
Yea I was just adding on to your post, that they will definitely say if he's been transferred regardless of HIPAA. Since we already have proof of VINElink doing so.
 
Im not sure if this has been brought up yet but this doesnt look like a release or a transfer for a group home.

Waive right to indictment doesnt mean that the State waived their right, it means that Chris waived his right. This is from a paper about The Grand Jury & Capital Murder:

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I believe this means the trial is proceeding without the need for a Grand Jury.
FFS this is all all over the place, one minute its "Chris is being transferred to a tard home,'' now it's "the trial is on." The case is sealed then it was "closed" All I ask is some consistency with this madness. It could be anything from Chris being moved to a home, to another mental hospital, or he could be in the back of a sheriff's car on his way to the courthouse as we speak. If it is that last scenario would he be spending the night in the local police station till the courthouse opens?
 
I've met plenty of autists who have the mind of a child and they would never even consider raping someone, let alone their own mother. Chris has the mind of someone with no impulse control or empathy which is far worse than most children let alone an adult.
Oh really, and how many of those people's parents forced said autists to repeatedly engage in completely inappropriate physical contact with them as a habit?
Almost like maybe there was someone else here who played a major, active role in producing this outcome. But who else could it be?
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Anyways, if Chris gets let out on any kind of conditional release he'll be going back in in no time. If nothing else he'll try to go back to his old house the second nobody's looking. Unless he goes to a group home where he's monitored release is a waste of time.
 
Yea I was just adding on to your post, that they will definitely say if he's been transferred regardless of HIPAA. Since we already have proof of VINElink doing so.

Gotcha, I misinterpreted your original message. Yes, VINE is obligated to update.

FFS this is all all over the place, one minute its "Chris is being transferred to a tard home,'' now it's "the trial is on." The case is sealed then it was "closed" All I ask is some consistency with this madness. It could be anything from Chris being moved to a home, to another mental hospital, or he could be in the back of a sheriff's car on his way to the courthouse as we speak. If it is that last scenario would he be spending the night in the local police station till the courthouse opens?
Methinks the previous person disregarded the transportation order. That throws the trial thing into limbo regardless of whether it's happening or not, because we don't know where Chris is going.
 
Oh really, and how many of those people's parents forced said autists to repeatedly engage in completely inappropriate physical contact with them as a habit?
Almost like maybe there was someone else here who played a major, active role in producing this outcome. But who else could it be?
:thinking:

Anyways, if Chris gets let out on any kind of conditional release he'll be going back in in no time. If nothing else he'll try to go back to his old house the second nobody's looking. Unless he goes to a group home where he's monitored release is a waste of time.
There's no evidence at all to suggest Barb ever initiated any kind of sexual contact with Chris. Cuddling, while it can be sexual, is not inherently sexual either. There was even a fad for a while of places that offered group cuddling as some kind of stress relief. If Chris is so retarded that he thinks that justifies penetrative sex with his mother he's dangerously stupid/handicapped and deserves to be away from society. Whether that's in jail or a mental hospital, I really don't care at this point.
 
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