Aug 11 2022 - Case updated with "Waive right to indictment" and "transportation order" - Review scheduled for next year

[My Name is Mud]

Well yeah. I believe it's like suspending the sentencing for a year and if he doesn't fuck up in that time then he is probably off at that point.
From my understanding though you still admit to the charges. I'm guilty but...

I suppose that even if he's plead/found guilty, he's still not officially convicted, therefore no registry yet. I imagine the bureaucracy of it all demands a conviction in order to be put on the SOR.

 

[FinnSven]

Chris's upbringing did more damage to his fragile psyche as a child/youth long term than anything the trolls possibly could've done.

Please elaborate?

Paying girls and other kids to keep an eye on him is damaging in some ways, yes, but it is not like tricking him into believing his own fantasies and financially crippling him.

 

[NewtypeSperg]

I'm not going to disagree with this at all. This is precisely what I meant with "morbid irony". By doing his utmost to make it better, Bob made it worse.

If Chris had been an aspie, "Grade 1 autist", Fiona type or whatnot, Bob's approach would have been highly appropriate. (Fiona's dad was similar but more liberal-minded, and Fiona turned out to be a sweet and person capable of taking care of herself, with a bunch weird but generally harmless quirks but that's just the way she rolls, and she is aware of it and I think that makes her quite cool.

A Chris-type autist cannot be raised properly without professional assistance. Bob (we can safely dismiss Barb in that regard) got Chris to be "high-functioning" but it was really just "functioning", like a robot. This approach is a sure ticket to a clash with both observable reality, and, ultimately, the Law.

I generally agree with this, though I'm biased. I believe that most people with ASD-1 can more or less sort things out for themselves. I don't think Chris has ASD-1 though, and he should have definitely gone through a more guided upbringing with professional assistance.

 

[Second-Hand Boat Supplies]

Until we find out definitely what happened, ChrisChan has ascended to cryptid status: an unbelievably strange entity whom legend tells could be lurking anywhere from the Blue Ridge Mountains, all the way out to Tidewater.

 

[A New Kiwi]

I generally agree with this, though I'm biased. I believe that most people with ASD-1 can more or less sort things out for themselves. I don't think Chris has ASD-1 though, and he should have definitely gone through a more guided upbringing with professional assistance.

What grade would you give him? I dunno how many levels there are in the system or anything else about it.

 

[Jack Awful]

This. Chris has stated multiple times that people with autism, people with disabilities and people with physical deformities makes him incredibly uncomfortable.

“It’s like staring into hell for me” is a very tasteless and fucked up statement, but it’s probably the closest thing Chris has ever said in regards to trying to understand another persons point of view.

Yeah maybe it bothers Chris so much because he sees himself in it too much.

Or it is as simple as him seeing them as gross and annoying.

 

[Divine right to rule]

Chris's upbringing did more damage to his fragile psyche as a child/youth long term than anything the trolls possibly could've done.

Hard disagree.
He was at his most normal during high school, before the trolls.
The trolling, especially them feeding his delusions, and Bob's death drove him off the deep end hard.
Sometimes mental illnesses also get worse with age.

 

[Deborah "Debbie" Grayson]

Please elaborate?

Paying girls and other kids to keep an eye on him is damaging in some ways, yes, but it is not like tricking him into believing his own fantasies and financially crippling him.

They were too fucking old to have a kid at their age, let alone a special needs one like Chris. The most damaging thing in Chris’ life was them just allowing him to stew alone in his room because they were too boomery to understand how damaging his online activities were.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Where I live, someone who's going to trial for a crime and uses a mental disorder as a defence is sent to a forensic psychiatric hospital for an assessment period. They'll see psychiatrists/psychologists semi-regularly who will eventually be asked to produce a report on whether the defendant's mental disorder was what directly caused them to commit the crime. This will then influence the decision as to whether they're fit to stand trial, and if/when convicted, whether they'll serve their sentence in the hospital or in a prison. This would explain the deferred date: it gives them a year to do this.

Forensic psychiatric hospitals will have specific, gender segregated tard-wards. They are basically group homes for offenders- can't leave, few liberties, ability to restrain patients, are able to force medications. The ones I'm familiar with generally had paedophiles or violent offenders in there. In short, he'll be surrounded by sex-offending men with learning difficulties: reunited with his own people at last. I can't see the troon behaviour lasting in there very long, Magichan's not gonna save him from grabby hands.

I could be really wrong on this though, I'm not from the U.S so dunno how similar the systems may be. I assume whatever update that comes next will say whether he's been moved to another facility, or released.

That - or something similar - is likely what has been happening the last 6-12 months.

 

[NewtypeSperg]

What grade would you give him? I dunno how many levels there are in the system or anything else about it.

There are three, and I would guess that Chris is probably ASD-2. ASD-1 is mostly for people with what used to be called Asperger's, though others are mixed in as well. ASD-2 sounds much more like Chris, based on what I've read, but he's probably borderline between ASD-1 and 2.

He's definitely not ASD-3.

 

[Lancelot]

I'm not going to disagree with this at all. This is precisely what I meant with "morbid irony". By doing his utmost to make it better, Bob made it worse.

If Chris had been an aspie, "Grade 1 autist", Fiona type or whatnot, Bob's approach would have been highly appropriate. (Fiona's dad was similar but more liberal-minded, and Fiona turned out to be a sweet and person capable of taking care of herself, with a bunch weird but generally harmless quirks but that's just the way she rolls, and she is aware of it and I think that makes her quite cool.

A Chris-type autist cannot be raised properly without professional assistance. Bob (we can safely dismiss Barb in that regard) got Chris to be "high-functioning" but it was really just "functioning", like a robot. This approach is a sure ticket to a clash with both observable reality, and, ultimately, the Law.

That's just it I don't think Bob did anything to improve what Chris was. I also don't think he did his utmost.

We don't have to get bogged down in this though. I do feel though that you are misinterpreting bobs denial that there is any issue as him trying to make Chris better.

I just dont see any fundamental improvement in Chris as a result of bobs oversight. At the very most the slim authority Bob had meant that while he was alive Chris couldn't get away with literally everything and anything. Still there is a difference between parentingand actually improving someone, versus doing very bare minimum of patrolling their behaviour.

Even the most meth addled toothless hillbilly in the desert might step in when they see their toddler rolling a gas canister towards a bonfire.

 

[420thCommando]

This. Chris has stated multiple times that people with autism, people with disabilities and people with physical deformities makes him incredibly uncomfortable.

“It’s like staring into hell for me” is a very tasteless and fucked up statement, but it’s probably the closest thing Chris has ever said in regards to trying to understand another persons point of view.

"Autists" these days mostly means "aspie and/or ADHS" as these are the only "spectrum people" most folks will have any meaningful degree of interaction with or exposure to. Chris is a different matter. So this elitism is (in Chris' mind) only logical: the Others are either not as far down the rabbit hole as Chris is (aspies/ADHS), or they are far duller than Chris is (people with full-fledged mental - not social - retardation).

So Chris is, in the mind of Chris, something like the "best of all worlds of neurodivergence". The Golden Mean. This surely figures into the entire God/Jesus thing.

It is important to understand that autistic people (and this is one of the few things that hold true across the "spectrum", though I suspect the underlying neurobiology is wildly different) really suck at deviousness, underhandedness, backstabbing and scheming. If they can do it at all, it's clumsy, ill thought-out, like ripped from a really cheap pulp crime novel.
@Lancelot: those autists you know - by any chance, were they pretty much incapable of planned meanness, were honest, true to your face, within the real of their capabilities rock-solid dependable homies, lied but clumsily, rarely ripped you off, and if trying to cheat you at play or for some yummy food or such, did this in a way reminiscent more of a magpie than a normie?

Those on the spectrum that can figure out the concept of betrayal at a philosophical (not just melodramatic like Chris) level often have a weird love/hate relationship with it AFAICT. Aspies especially get utterly shocked, surprised and repulsed by witnessing normies' malicous scheming, and if it is directed at themselves, love to figure out fractal-dimension-chess yet harebrained get-back schemes, and hold grudges for decades. Fiona was rock solid on point A and went nuclear on Bella's ass, and luckily pulled her reins on Point B before she or anyone could be grievely harmed.

(This, btw, is why I am almost sure Bella's "autism" is either just borderline normie Asperger's, or she is faking it to pull the tard card. Her schemes may suck but she is not well groomed (yet) - as a liar, she is one of Nature's own professionals. She is really a textbook psycho - is she a confirmed bed-pisser past 1st grade, or is that just my mind filling in the one piece that is not confirmed?)

 

[Jack Awful]

Fiona's dad was similar but more liberal-minded, and Fiona turned out to be a sweet and person capable of taking care of herself, with a bunch weird but generally harmless quirks but that's just the way she rolls, and she is aware of it and I think that makes her quite cool.

Fiona is an attention whore with fucked up kinks that wanted to fuck Chris Chan, became an internet laughingstock, and came back to do an AMA.

I wouldn't call her Chris Chan levels of retarded, but I wouldn't call her self aware or cool either and I really hope you aren't saying this out of thirst.

 

[Procrastinhater]

If they sent him to some group home or assisted living facility for speds it makes sense why they would seal the record, I can only imagine the amount of phone calls theyve been getting from wax brained weens, makes sense they would want to conceal the place so they dont get inundated with the same shit.
That could have been part of the problem, this isnt your average mother fucking retard, Chris's notoriety makes him more trouble than hes worth for anywhere forced to take him.

 

[FinnSven]

I generally agree with this, though I'm biased. I believe that most people with ASD-1 can more or less sort things out for themselves. I don't think Chris has ASD-1 though, and he should have definitely gone through a more guided upbringing with professional assistance.

Probably not ASD-1, more "severe" than that, but he also has some other mental illness.

Autists don't usually demonstrate schizophrenic symptoms, unless they have schizophrenia too.

They were too fucking old to have a kid at their age, let alone a special needs one like Chris. The most damaging thing in Chris’ life was them just allowing him to stew alone in his room because they were too boomery to understand how damaging his online activities were.

Well that I agree with, but I still think the trolls actually destroying his life when he was at a stage when he could have just become a harmless eccentric was much more damaging.

 

[420thCommando]

I think Bob was stuck in the middle ground for parenting. He had strong fundamentals and morals, but he was also too prideful to let the system work with Chris's disabilities early to correct his behaviors.

He was a good man and knew much, and seems to have had a kind hart - surely too kind to end as a bugbitten corpse with such next-of-kin - but the social setting was too conservative/Christian and the infrastructure too underdeveloped. That set a hard cap on what Bob could achieve with the means at his disposal.
OTOH: Imagine Bob being the same old Bob, except not a jazz and science nut but a gun and coonhunting nut. It's far more common out there than being a retired pro engineer of good and long-standing repute and above-average natural intelligence. Chance spared us *this* particular card being dealt, and it's probably for the better.

 

[Deborah "Debbie" Grayson]

Well that I agree with, but I still think the trolls actually destroying his life when he was at a stage when he could have just become a harmless eccentric was much more damaging.

My point is that had Chris been born to more appropriate parents it never would’ve happened. Parents not too stuck in the past that their negative views of mental health made them actively work against the best interest of their son, and who were tech-savvy enough to know about cyberbullying and the like to understand the need to monitor/restrict their son’s online activities.

Then there is the fact that he was denied proper help to learn how to live with his ‘tism as an adult. He pretty much remained an infantilized, perpetual teenager well into his 20’s and 30’s while his parents had grown too old at this point to deal with him.

So, in essence, Chris was doomed from the start because of being born to the parents he was. His upbringing is at the core of it all.

 

[Ophelia]

Bob could have nipped the troll thing (as well as many other harmful influences) in the bud by monitoring his kid’s computer use and immediately taking away the internet once things started to get screwy. Even if Barb and Chris ganged up on him about it. I sympathize with him because he was old and had to live with those two, but that is something he could have done which would have majorly impacted Chris’s life.

 

[Georges St. Pierre]

Please elaborate?

Paying girls and other kids to keep an eye on him is damaging in some ways, yes, but it is not like tricking him into believing his own fantasies and financially crippling him.

Chris was never parented, they essentially filled his time and mind with things like videogames, television, and rhetoric rather than actually giving him love and affection, constantly changing schools and locations to avoid the help Chris needed while instilling negative views of help within Chris. Same with how they handled his high school years, and his college years. If he had been parented and helped the way he should've been his delusions and dependency on the internet and said media would've never gotten to the point it had.

 

[420thCommando]

Probably not ASD-1, more "severe" than that, but he also has some other mental illness.

ASD-2/-3, depending how exactly how the boundary is drawn. More likely a mild 3 than a severe 2 - breaking incest taboos and bragging about it with child-like innocence is grade 3 disconnect I'd guess. That he is housebroken should not distract - that's training. Not getting why motherfucking - even if only in your mind - is NOT OK AT ALL, that is Chris' basic unaltered nature: a gross inability to figure out concepts like sociosexual restraint at the most basic level.