Aug 11 2022 - Case updated with "Waive right to indictment" and "transportation order" - Review scheduled for next year

[Sadhatter]

Don't lump Chris Chan with GWAR...

Now, Green Jelly would maybe take him.

You are telling me, if they made Slaughterama 2022 Chris wouldn't fit right in?

Man, I promised I wouldn't argue here, but this is a total hill I'll die on.

Not like a band member, but a background character like Poor Ol' Tom or the random folks in the films.

 

[Holiday Special]

ve with them whenever he gets out just so "they can be a part of christory!"

Honestly, if they want to do that then its on them. Whatever. We observe, but if you want to pozload my neghole you get what you deserve.

 

[Lancelot]

There is overt narcissism and covert narcissism. Chis is covert.

Im still not sure chris is clinically a narcissist. So many of the traits people point to come across as fairly typical autist traits while others are entirely absent

. An example of one issue is a core trait of narcissism is secret feelings of shame
and self doubt. One of chris's defining attributes though is his seeming complete inability to even come close to feeling genuine shame. He is now infamous for fucking his own mother, and has spent over a year in jail. His primary thoughts meanwhile are about his legos and how he will garner 14 BC back from his stubborn ollll mum
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Another "require constant admiration "
Not clear at all chris " requires" that. He gravitates to it sure but most people gravitate to people who boost them up.
I really think these issues with chris are simpler than people make them out to be. If you roll back the clock 20 years you have vanilla chris. Vanilla chris is fairly stock autist with few friends living a solitary life. He already has issues accepting responsibility " common autistic trait" and he has issues genuinely empathising with others. Coincidentally this means he also has difficulty having insight into himself. Largely because a core aspect of have introspection is thinking about how you would look to others .

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Chris is gullible, self absorbed, and a bit arrogant. However his inability to accept culpability ( a common autistic trait) combined with a very bizarre feedback loop going on 20 years. Has resulted in him adding ever more layers of beliefs onto his life. Which again has been how he ALWAYS was. Sonichu is just a layering of life and media that chris has encountered through the years. Similarly crystals, insignifcant mistakes from mall bears, and trolls convincing him he is an anime CPU goddess . All gets added to the pile of how he thinks of the world .His conclusions of being exceptional are therein just a combination of cope along with 15 years of him taking what he likes (praise and popularity in this case ) , and tossing it into his quasi fiction conceptualisation of his reality.

I still think that was the reason he stopped going to that gay bar in Charlottesville all of a sudden without any complaint. That would indicate that Chris did something very wrong to not even formulate some troll or other person seeting him up to fail as an excuse. He went from having a blast, taking belly gut dancing lessons and saying everyone was his friend to complete radio silence.

The only other time Chris was that happy and "accepted" was at that games convention in PA, where he was grabbing people and claiming that if they didn't want to get tard assaulted, that they shouldn't have stood that close or else pushed him away.

@Lancelot

I think it's different and simpler, he just saw Barb at a point where he knew she was both weak and so out of it, that she couldn't talk about it or berate him.

And that's the rub with Chris, he might understand boundaries because he was taught, but that's different than how he views them. Chris wants what Chris wants. If there's a hot girl or someone he gloms onto, then Chris is going to put effort into getting it. If it means breaking rules, he will. If a woman says stop, then he'll keep going. That's why I believe he just waited until Barb was so weak because he formulated that was a optimum time to strike. She even told him she said "no", but Chris was so hepped up on tard lust, the other person's well-being just didn't register or else he just didn't care.

Lol no As I mentioned chris has had awkward lust for a very long time. As far as we know he hasnt gone fondling peoples tits or slapping asses even if he absolutely would want to. I just dont see that level of clearly thought out predation on the part of chris. Barb has been gonzo at very least since 2018. While they have had disconcerting relationship with eachother going back as far as a decade.
Simply put i dont think chris was "waiting " for the time to strike. I think this "opportunity" has existed for chris atleast several years . It just took the right mix of chris falling into an ever more pathetic state, and the right mix of influences and justification for himself to decide to make a move .
Now if I was at a house party and I saw a chick passed out alone in a room with chris ? yeah i am going to take action. Am i certain he would actually fondle or rape her ? no

 

[420thCommando]

I think all of this fantasy bullshit he spouts is just an elaborate game of pretend. I don't think he actually believes it. He will profess that he does, and he probably won't talk to you about much else, but if he were actually schizophrenic he would have stayed at Western. I wouldn't be surprised if he had other issues beyond autism, but I don't think he is actually crazy, just autistic and retarded.

Has been going on for far, far too long for that I think. And it was - in its screwed-up way - pretty "deep" right from the start. I lurked through the early years and got no indication Chris was in any way aware that Sonichu did, in fact, not physically exist in some parallel dimension or courtesy of some other deus ex machina, but only in Chris' mind.

Friends of my parents have an ASD-3 son. When he was a teenager, he could not distinguish between the movie that ran on TV and the actual, palpable reality around him. There was no boundary to him, both were part of the same reality continuum. IONO his current condition but I didn't have the impression he would ever learn this. Now, this guy was in no way "functional". But the way his imagination was, to him, as real a part of reality as were his crapped diapers - Chris' uncanny way of treating Sonichu as real reminded me of that. (This is why I would consider Chris a highly-functioning ASD-3. ASD-2s should still be about as seriously hampered in everyday life, but at least they would know there is such a thing, and be able to draw its boundaries with respect to their fantasies.)

Im still not sure chris is clinically a narcissist. So many of the traits people point to come across as fairly typical autist traits while others are entirely absent

etc.

This.

 

[Chazzed Up]

. An example of one issue is a core trait of narcissism is secret feelings of shame
and self doubt. One of chris's defining attributes though is his seeming complete inability to even come close to feeling genuine shame. He is now infamous for fucking his own mother, and has spent over a year in jail. His primary thoughts meanwhile are about his legos and how he will garner 14 BC back from his stubborn ollll mum

Narcissisim often overlaps with sociopathic traits, and I find sociopath types rarely seem to exhibit any kind of shame or self-doubt. In any case you forget that most of why he kept engaging with trolls for many years was because he couldn't tolerate the idea of people thinking he was homo, slow-in-the-mind, and whatever other negative qualities trolls would assign to him. It's odd to invest that much energy in fighting strangers on that point if you don't feel any insecurity about the topic. Especially autism.

Another "require constant admiration "
Not clear at all chris " requires" that. He gravitates to it sure but most people gravitate to people who boost them up.
I really think these issues with chris are simpler than people make them out to be. If you roll back the clock 20 years you have vanilla chris. Vanilla chris is fairly stock autist with few friends living a solitary life. He already has issues accepting responsibility " common autistic trait" and he has issues genuinely empathising with others. Coincidentally this means he also has difficulty having insight into himself. Largely because a core aspect of have introspection is thinking about how you would look to others .

This is severely underselling his behaviors toward achieving attention. Again, as previously mentioned, he continued to engage with trolls for many years because he couldn't simply drop off the radar and let things go. He had such a need for Sonichu to be recognized as way more that it was, to the extent that he let things snowball constantly in terms of bad actors. This is not some inherently autistic trait. Autists like to infodump and share their interests but most aren't under some belief that they will be famous.

 

[Professor Iris]

For all of the caterwalling Chris makes about 'foreseeing' everything, you'd think he'd get the irony of everyone accurately predicting what's going to happen to him if he continued on this insane path he was on.
That said, well done Chris. Like WingsOfRedemption mere days from his ban being lifted, you fucked up past the point of no return. Enjoy your hell.


JULAY.

 

[Lancelot]

Has been going on for far, far too long for that I think. And it was - in its screwed-up way - pretty "deep" right from the start. I lurked through the early years and got no indication Chris was in any way aware that Sonichu did, in fact, not physically exist in some parallel dimension or courtesy of some other deus ex machina, but only in Chris' mind.

Friends of my parents have an ASD-3 son. When he was a teenager, he could not distinguish between the movie that ran on TV and the actual, palpable reality around him. There was no boundary to him, both were part of the same reality continuum. IONO his current condition but I didn't have the impression he would ever learn this. Now, this guy was in no way "functional". But the way his imagination was, to him, as real a part of reality as were his crapped diapers - Chris' uncanny way of treating Sonichu as real reminded me of that. (This is why I would consider Chris a highly-functioning ASD-3. ASD-2s should still be about as seriously hampered in everyday life, but at least they would know there is such a thing, and be able to draw its boundaries with respect to their fantasies.)

Chris isnt ASD3. For one, beyond his delusions he speaks way to coherently . Additionally chris hasnt ALWAYS been like this. He has fantasized about sonic and the fictional world he has been working on for a long time. He was very clear for years that it was his fictional world ( going so far as to try and copyright sonichu ) .Its really only the last 7 years or so that he started larping that his fictional world was another universe. Then full on espousing it was real along with him being a cpu goddess etc etc . Almost all the result of being egged on by trolls ( and probably finding that fantasy an escape from his dim reality )

 

[oramge cat]

Does Chris even take his meds anymore, or does he refuse to take them since he's pretending to be Jesus?

I don't think Chris has ever had a consistent regimen of psych meds. I believe he's taken Paxil (antidepressant) inconsistently in the past and he was getting HRT tranny pills from an "informed consent" clinic in the past but that's about it.

 

[420thCommando]

If you read his infamous 2016 Facebook post it's obvious he knows damn well this is illegal but thinks it should be legal so he wouldn't get in trouble for it. Like he thinks it sounds hot and wants to try it himself

Caveat: what Chris thinks "to think something is hot" is, and what almost everyone else thinks it is, are not the same thing.
It's a bit horny inceldom but probably more that addled concept of "True Love" mixed with autistic hate of injustice. Chris knows incest is NOT OK on a rational, book-knowledge level, but emotionally, True Love conquers all.

Barb's spooning thing prevented Chris from ever figuring that he was doing this very "incest" thing which he knew to be verboten. It felt good. If it feels good, and is consensual, why is it not OK?
If more complicated moral philosophy or scientific argument are beyond one's grasp, it is a foregone conclusion that one will, to themselves, be able to justify their own incest should it occur. It would, at that basic level of thinking, not be logical to not do it.

 

[A New Kiwi]

https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Gal_pals

According to the cwcki, it started when he was young.

It’s been claimed in threads here, fuck knows which ones, that paying for friends is a “southern” and older generation thing. One that Bob would have been aware of.

I don’t see any real reason to doubt it. Bob knew Chris wanted friends, realized that Chris is Chris so offered cash to girls to baby sit him.

lolwut. Maybe that tradition didn't reach Tennessee, but that's definitely news to me.

 

[420thCommando]

I don't think Chris has ever had a consistent regimen of psych meds. I believe he's taken Paxil (antidepressant) inconsistently in the past and he was getting HRT tranny pills from an "informed consent" clinic in the past but that's about it.

Yes, I can't remember any controlled regimen ever being mentioned either.

Many farmers speculate about Chris tarding out hard and doing the most outrageous things while in some assumed future psych care facility. I don't. Such people are in some special legal status that forfeits a whole lot of their human and most of their main civic rights. Not generally, but at any time on immediate notice if the medical professionals think it the necessary course of action. Forced treatment is always an option. And modern pharmaceutics has plenty of ways to decisively deal with people who are too damn "lively" for their own good.

Poor Adderall kids who don't know what a controlled and well-maintained regimen of heavy-duty neuroleptics can do even to the most unusual of brains in a surprisingly short time. If you want, you can turn any genius into a drooling veggie still capable of throwing a tantrum, hollering and raging, but not anymore of anything more refined, for pretty much forever. Hence, it is not even likely Chris will get "released" into such circumstances now already; these are reserved for when the risk to the public exceeds the latent human rights volation involved in sending a citizen to some "tard farm". The court would resort to this only as one of the last options, because it is pretty much definite; who goes there, gets out again soon, or will be too fucked up to ever go anywhere much. Chris got pulled out of Western as soon as the evaluation was done, I am not aware of the pertinent details in VA law tho, but the basic problem is one of basic constitutional rights and freedoms. So I expect they'll try some sort of supervised free-ranging agreement - it's not like Chris has shown much succes as an absconder so far.

 

[oramge cat]

If it's true the case is closed (though its kengle who said this so take it with a lot of salt )



Damn you a thousand times over for sealing the case Heilburg and damn you weens for prompting him to do it. We may not know where Chris is for god knows how long depending on where he is and if he's allowed to send more letters.

All they had to do was just watch. Just follow museum rules, look but don't touch, and we'd have regular updates with court documents and legal briefs and all sorts of juicy info. It wouldn't be a content drought it would be a content downpour, but every fucking idiot wants to leave his mark on the world and I guess some are so desperate they think being a part of Christory is the way to do it.

 

[TheLastJoestar]

Look... as long as he's not free to be a sex pest again, I'm a happy camper. All things considered a tard home with enhanced legal scrutiny is the best thing that could happen to Chris whether he likes it or not. He doesn't need to be interacting with weens anymore. He doesn't need to be allowed to rot in his piss and fantasies. He needs legitimate help, and for many that help is the opposite of what they want, and doing what they need to do is painful. That + the one year of Jail he's already served and knowing his 14BC house will never be his and all his knickknacks sold will serve as appropriate punishment.

If anybody here watched Rekieta's Kyle Rittenhouse Livestreams, you saw him constantly talking about how good Legal Counsel needs to get with the times and defend the public image of piriah defendants from the fast rumor mill of social media. In Chris's case, The best course of action is just to be harder to contact. looks like Chris got a great lawyer. Even if he wasn't aware of the Farms at first, you know all those weens spamming the police stations and court houses became an issue he was made aware of, so I know for a fact his legal counsel (And probably the judge who's gone down a rabbit hole of his own) is looking at the farms to see how the public is constantly trying to get new information on his whereabouts to make him do stupid shit from behind bars. That's why I suspect he asked to seal the case and for extra secretive scrutiny. He did what competent counsel needs to do .

I hate when stories have happy endings that contradict the message and somber theming of the story. Not to say punished heroes can't get a happy ending, it's just that the consequences of ending needs to reflect the story - a story needs to feel as if it went somewhere. Geno's theme is appropriate to Chris's life story, so having Chris do something fucked only for the last arc to be a short epilogue of his final interactions with weens via prison letters before being sentenced to silence is an EXCELLENT ending. I stood and clapped. But now the real question:

Is this the good ending, or is it just a time-skip? Will there be a Chris Chan Z-ppuden?

 

[Lancelot]

Narcissisim often overlaps with sociopathic traits, and I find sociopath types rarely seem to exhibit any kind of shame or self-doubt. In any case you forget that most of why he kept engaging with trolls for many years was because he couldn't tolerate the idea of people thinking he was homo, slow-in-the-mind, and whatever other negative qualities trolls would assign to him. It's odd to invest that much energy in fighting strangers on that point if you don't feel any insecurity about the topic. Especially autism.

It was just one example of a primary narcissistic trait. There is a reason extensive formalised tests exist for these disorders. Because broadly speaking there is going to be overlap in generalised psychological traits and the extent of those traits. Many many people have grandiose self importance and desire validation of others. In this case the prime traits being pointed to are
1: chris fights with trolls because they think he is a tard

He also argued tooth and nail over them drawing rosechu with a dick. It could just be that he thought that was perversion of his image and of his creations
2: Chris has inflated self important

He has been talked about all over the internet for better part of 20 years. He is also gullible and was told that clyde cashs brother killed himself over him not releasing a new chapter of sonichu lol . At some point an autist is going to start thinking that there must be a reason for all of this obsession around him. He can either accept he is a lolcow or if he is unable to conceive of that conclude he must be mega popular online.


3: He wants praise

The single thing chris chan has is sonichu and his online fame. Not everyone who develops a complex as a result of the negative aspects of fame is narccissistic for doing so.

This is severely underselling his behaviors toward achieving attention. Again, as previously mentioned, he continued to engage with trolls for many years because he couldn't simply drop off the radar and let things go. He had such a need for Sonichu to be recognized as way more that it was, to the extent that he let things snowball constantly in terms of bad actors. This is not some inherently autistic trait. Autists like to infodump and share their interests but most aren't under some belief that they will be famous.

"his efforts towards achieving attention"
you mean posting online ? Chris releases sonichu comics, sold sonichu merch when convinced to by Null, attends furry cons, and argues with trolls online. This doesnt seem like unbelievable obsession with trying to achieve attention. It seems like someone who simply likes attention and gravitates online to people who give it.
"most arent under some belief that they will be famous"
He already is online famous and has been for over a decade. The only oddity is that he thinks he is way way more popular than he is .
"he had a need for sonichu to be recognised"
There is a major flaw in the logic you use here. That because chris thinks that sonichu is way more popular that it is , that he lets things snowball with bad actors. It does not flow logically. Chris is incredibly gullible and always has been ( which absolutely is an autistic trait.) So him being convinced by a handful of trolls that millions of people around the world are reaching sonichu and that shigeru miyamoto is on the phone wanting to talk to him... pretty clearly fits .
Chris is an online lolcow and he has rationalised that as people being obsessed with his creation sonichu. Its naive and somewhat delusional. Its also entirely in line with autistic traits. It doesnt need added disorders to explain why an autist has a slanted self image . He has taken the positives of what he has experienced in life from fans and trolls while discounting the negatives. Hence resulting in a delusional perception of his popularity.

 

[King Kiwi]

Choice that involves a bottle of gin and a shotgun.

I want to see Chris dance while I enjoy a nice drink.

Good show!

 

[Xenomorph]

Reminds me of those pedos in a state funded mental ward for chomos that Louis Theroux did a documentary on who were allowed to keep drawings of children in their cells and clearly would just be a revolving door.
This is Chris there is no BETTER for him, he is never getting out.

 

[CatParty]

Is Chris getting better

 

[Chazzed Up]

The single thing chris chan has is sonichu and his online fame. Not everyone who develops a complex as a result of the negative aspects of fame is narccissistic for doing so.

I guess we are just not going to talk about the fact that Chris continuously has expanded his sense of self-importance far beyond "I am internet famous". He now thinks he is a goddess and Jesus. Nobody convinced him or influenced him into this Jesus shit, he started that entirely on his own.

And yeah I don't think most people are formally diagnosing him with a personality disorder, but it's entirely fair and consistent with his behavior to say he has narcissistic traits when his desire right now is to have people who follow and worship him as a religious figure. He literally proclaims to control reality. If he had the charisma and IQ to back it up he would probably start a cult. That is what he is trying to do with the Neo Spirituality bullshit.

you mean posting online ? Chris releases sonichu comics, sold sonichu merch when convinced to by Null, attends furry cons, and argues with trolls online. This doesnt seem like unbelievable obsession with trying to achieve attention. It seems like someone who simply likes attention and gravitates online to people who give it.

'Posting online' is such a retarded oversimplification. Chris engaged in constant ego battles and that was typically what he did online too. The campaign he waged against the guy who won the Parappa contest is a great example. Chris can't stand losing or being considered below anyone else in any capacity. Hell, the entire idea behind Sonichu was as a power fantasy to begin with. Sonichu was an accessory and seemed to be there because 1) Chris lacks originality and 2) presumably he figured he would get more fans using popular properties than just creating an autobiography.

There is a major flaw in the logic you use here. That because chris thinks that sonichu is way more popular that it is , that he lets things snowball with bad actors. It does not flow logically. Chris is incredibly gullible and always has been ( which absolutely is an autistic trait.) So him being convinced by a handful of trolls that millions of people around the world are reaching sonichu and that shigeru miyamoto is on the phone wanting to talk to him... pretty clearly fits .

It's not his gullibility that got him in trouble. People would have gotten a lot less of a laugh out of him if his angle hadn't *always* been about his ego. If Chris's opinion of himself wasn't so incredibly high he would not have gone to the ridiculous lengths he always did to defend his reputation. In fact people probably would've felt more bad for him if he hadn't always been a petulant retard. Many did feel bad for him when BlueSpike tormented him that one time. But overall people have a hard time feeling sympathy because Chris could not let go of a fight and in perpetuating fights with trolls, provided them more and more info and embarrassing content. So I can sympathize with Chris falling for some trolling, I cannot sympathize with him never being willing to disengage once he realized he was being messed with.

Chris is an online lolcow and he has rationalised that as people being obsessed with his creation sonichu.

Chris knows he is a lolcow for negative reasons. He himself has said things like the fact that he could never get a job because his entire online presence is mostly negative. Most recently he has described the rest of the world as 'the toxic majority' so he can justify only focusing on the very small window of people who enable his delusions. But the fact that he knows the rest of the world does not care much for him makes it pretty clear to me that he knows that his perception of himself is a cope, at least to some degree.

 

[Deborah "Debbie" Grayson]

Chris knows he is a lolcow for negative reasons. He himself has said things like the fact that he could never get a job because his entire online presence is mostly negative.

While probably true, given what we know of Chris you know damn well he brought it up solely as an excuse not to seek employment when he was pressed to do so by someone.

It is a very convenient excuse and I very much doubt he minds it at all. Quite the opposite.

 

[A-№1]

Maybe they are transporting him because he was released?

The judge would have to order him released first.

Exactly where he ends up is anyone's guess.

If they don't say where he's going, just that he's going, it will be to a "mental health facility" (tard depository).

Could they use the austism defense to keep Chris in jail instead of sending him to prison?

That's not what jail is for. I suspect he's being sent to a "mental health facility", either for additional evaluation to find out what the fuck to actually do with him, or for a longer stint as part of his deferred disposition. The court will check up on how that's going in a year. Why waste more time on Chris than they have to?

Unless there's a court order forbidding Chris to use social media.

Like that would stop him. I bet there's no court order stopping JenkinsJinkies (or even Magichan) from using social media.

It's literally shit that doesn't happen. Ever. And it just did.

Iknowright? I've heard of cases bypassing the grand jury and going straight to sentencing, which itself is put on hold, as part of a plea deal waiving indictment (because there's no point in indicting someone who's admitting he's guilty - he's effectively self-indicting). The timing here is all weird.

Maybe Heilberg finally got Chris to agree to a guilty plea deal in exchange for deferred disposition at the very last possible second. Is it possible the grand jury returned a true bill indicting Chris, but the court is pretending they didn't because Chris waived indictment the next day? I'm not sure the court can actually do that. Or maybe the grand jury hadn't gotten to Chris yet before the indictment was waived. Either way that's some scary fucking brinksmanship from Heilberg. I would hate to play poker against the man. Well, on second thought I would love to play poker against him, but only with someone else's money.

For what it's worth though, he is still shown as in-custody in his jail's website.

It's a transportation order, not transportation itself.

The review after one year might not be the only one -- it could just be the first of many. If you look at the time Chris was on the therapeutic docket for trespassing, he had to check in with the court every month.

Monthly check-ups won't be necessary if Chris is sent somewhere he'll be managed.

If it's true the case is closed (though its kengle who said this so take it with a lot of salt )

Kengle probably doesn't know the difference between closed and sealed.

Chris is free.

On the contrary, Chris is expensive. I'm glad I'm not a Virginia taxpayer.

I believe that the lore is that the mayor of CWCville is now Mary Lee Walsh, as Chris has ascended to goddesshood and no longer needs to trifle with the administration of a mere town.

Damn. Even a make believe town is too much work for Chris.

No, chris probably would not have had to plead guilty.

Admitting guilt is the only way to waive indictment. If he fucks up his probation, a guilty adjudication will automatically be entered, and he goes straight to sentencing. He does not pass go. He does not collect 200 C-quarters.

It's 1: undoubtedly better than jail and mental hospital

You'd think that…

They were too fucking old to have a kid at their age, let alone a special needs one like Chris.

Their age is the most probable reason why they had a special needs kid like Chris.

It was a proper Greek tragedy even before Chris pulled an Oedipus.

It was a tragedy before Chris was even born.

I do find it funny though how his ideal sweetheart no matter how old he gets is still stipulated as 18 .

That's just biology. Most people have an intellect to overcome their base instincts. Chris does not.

Most notably I'm shocked that after 20 years of drawing he doesn't improve.

To improve you must first recognize the imperfection in your current work. All the best artists are their own worst critics. Chris, however, is his own greatest fan.

retard who raped his OWN MOTHER for at least a month and sexually harassed every female he ever met is totally not a sexual predator

But he's not a sexual predator.

Sharks are predators. Barracuda are predators. Even tuna are predators. Chris is more of a bottom feeder than a predator. He is a sexual hagfish.

Way to set up girls for a future as actual prostitutes in their adult years… or earlier.

What else do you think a debutante is?