Keffals / Clara Sorrenti / Lucas John Roberts / Queen Clara the Fart Dominatrix / SorrentiThott - Twitter / Twitch slacktivist. Obsessed with being famous. Operator of the Catboy Ranch. Canadian T-Girl porn star and independent Fart Fetish / Findom Dominatrix. Personally sponsored sending Chinese HRT from Brazil to children without parental consent.

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When did age gaps between adults become grooming in the zeitgeist? When I was a college student I dated a middle aged cougar and I sure wasn't groomed by her lol.
Not responsible for the actions of other people. Glad the outbursts have stopped though.
Honestly by unintentionally forcing the issue and having Null address it you have already net contributed to the Farms and brought about an overdue course correction against the slow mo colonization of the site by 2022 poltard users.
 
Of course his discord is emptying out and quiet- he got what he wanted from them. Mostly money, certainly attention. And thanks to the leaks they almost certainly were up to things that would have been….let’s say questionable now that a lot more eyes are on them.
@AvocadosConstant So now that all that’s out of the way, and you have had some time to look about, would you care to elaborate on things? I think you’re the second person to come out saying that keffals is a vile ex, and most of us have one or two of those, so what’s up?
 
When did age gaps between adults become grooming in the zeitgeist?
I was having a discussion with “someone very close to me” and her sister at a live sports event a couple months ago and they were talking about how a guy they know somehow was married to/dating a who’s like 10-15 years younger (like a he’s 30 shes 20 deal) and they were like “omg how creepy”

Apparently the supreme golden standard of consent doesn’t apply in that situation. Also I like how modern day LGBT prog-libs whine about (legal) age-gap relationships yet conveniently overlook the fact that fucking Harvey Milk was dating something like a 16 or 17 year old kid when he was a middle aged AIDS man.
 
29 and 19.

If it's two men, it's a "bear" with his "cub" or his "otter" or "twink," and it's not only tolerated, but celebrated and encouraged in the queer community.

If it's a man and a younger woman, he's somewhat frowned upon in some circles, celebrated in others, but in any case it's tolerated by society and even normalized in the media.

If it's a woman and a younger man, then she's a "cougar," which is mildly derogatory in certain contexts, but still the man is viewed as having agency in the decision to be with her.

If it's two women, I don't think anyone really says anything. Are there specific words for that relationship type? Probably there are. Anyway, it's not commonly vilified by society.

...But, if the older partner is transgender, then, and only then, will people immediately jump to accusations of impropriety, grooming, pedophilia, etc. Which is probably very harmful and offensive to survivors of actual child molestation, because it trivializes their traumatic experiences.

Regardless, consenting adults is consenting adults.
 
It's simple, follow the X/2 + 7 rule. Divide your age by 2 and add 7, that's the minimum age you can date without it garnering "creepy" status. At 29, you probably shouldn't be dating anyone under 21, just going by the rule, and not even taking maturity and actual brain development into consideration. But as said, in the basic sense, consenting adults are consenting adults. I won't automatically call any relationship that doesn't meet the rule above creepy, but it does make people think about relationship dynamics once the age gap is considerable enough.
 
The good thing about Keffals newfound fame is that so many new eyes are looking into that place that it won't be an effective drug marketplace for children now. I doubt he'll care since he got a big stack of cash out of the deal.

> Keffals will not move forward with their DIY HRT operation

> but only because they’ve found a much more lucrative cash-cow: Grifting 100k+ from twitter-tards who think Countess Keffala is in perpetual danger of cyber-transphobes, and NEEDS their help.

Monkey’s paw.
 
29 and 19.

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...But, if the older partner is transgender, then, and only then, will people immediately jump to accusations of impropriety, grooming, pedophilia, etc. Which is probably very harmful and offensive to survivors of actual child molestation, because it trivializes their traumatic experiences.

Regardless, consenting adults is consenting adults.
Point A: I agree, those particular ages, consenting adults. We can all have a grand old debate until we die about emotional maturity, generalizations, etc. But per the law, they are consenting adults.

Point B: Shitposting aside, the jump to grooming accusations stems from mountains of evidence that, oftentimes, the younger partner may have started talking to the older individual before they were a "legally consenting adult". Or, if it didn't occur with this partner, happened with another in the past and the process/cycle continues.

But regarding Point B, it doesn't help that the trans community does not decry their most vile, egregious offenses. They close ranks and defend everyone, including their worst. That is never a good look, and eventually comes back to bite a community in the ass.
 
> Keffals will not move forward with their DIY HRT operation

> but only because they’ve found a much more lucrative cash-cow: Grifting 100k+ from twitter-tards who think Countess Keffala is in perpetual danger of cyber-transphobes, and NEEDS their help.

Monkey’s paw.
I fully expect Lucas to orchestrate some new crisis so he can return to the GoFraudMe well.
 
Oh boy guys, it finally happened, the Ben Shapiro Ratio attempt!
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Also @AvocadosConstant, glad to see you back!
 
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...But, if the older partner is transgender, then, and only then, will people immediately jump to accusations of impropriety, grooming, pedophilia, etc. Which is probably very harmful and offensive to survivors of actual child molestation, because it trivializes their traumatic experiences.
Well maybe it's the case for your community, but most people outside of that community do not accept it. Most people do not label themselves with a fetish and make it an identity.
Maybe that's why you think trans people are "targeted" with judgment when you then do step outside your community, because you are maybe not aware that the rest of the world keeps stuff like that private.
Just because something is legal, does not mean that you should do it, and most people understand that when you are 29, having a relationship with a 19 y/o is at minimum morally questionable, and it does not make it better that you then use fetish terms like dom/sub/bear/cub ect.
 
29 and 19.

If it's two men, it's a "bear" with his "cub" or his "otter" or "twink," and it's not only tolerated, but celebrated and encouraged in the queer community.

If it's a man and a younger woman, he's somewhat frowned upon in some circles, celebrated in others, but in any case it's tolerated by society and even normalized in the media.

If it's a woman and a younger man, then she's a "cougar," which is mildly derogatory in certain contexts, but still the man is viewed as having agency in the decision to be with her.

If it's two women, I don't think anyone really says anything. Are there specific words for that relationship type? Probably there are. Anyway, it's not commonly vilified by society.

...But, if the older partner is transgender, then, and only then, will people immediately jump to accusations of impropriety, grooming, pedophilia, etc. Which is probably very harmful and offensive to survivors of actual child molestation, because it trivializes their traumatic experiences.

Regardless, consenting adults is consenting adults.
I would assume that an age difference on that level would be seen as at least a bit weird in most if not all scenarios (aside from maybe adult female and 19 year old male) especially if that relationship were engaged before the younger party turned 18. I don't want to cast aspersions but most people think that a 10 year age gap is odd especially if the 2 parties met before then and I don't think that just goes for transgender/gay people.
 
Well maybe it's the case for your community, but most people outside of that community do not accept it. Most people do not label themselves with a fetish and make it an identity.
Maybe that's why you think trans people are "targeted" with judgment when you then do step outside your community, because you are maybe not aware that the rest of the world keeps stuff like that private.
Just because something is legal, does not mean that you should do it, and most people understand that when you are 29, having a relationship with a 19 y/o is at minimum morally questionable, and it does not make it better that you then use fetish terms like dom/sub/bear/cub ect.
It's never been "morally questionable" until about 10 minutes ago. Older men have been marrying (much) younger women since the dawn of time. A 30yo pairing with a 14yo used to be the norm. Still is in many parts of the world. Hell plenty of places marry people who have never even met before their wedding day, all arranged by the parents.
 
29 and 19.

If it's two men, it's a "bear" with his "cub" or his "otter" or "twink," and it's not only tolerated, but celebrated and encouraged in the queer community.

...But, if the older partner is transgender, then, and only then, will people immediately jump to accusations of impropriety, grooming, pedophilia, etc. Which is probably very harmful and offensive to survivors of actual child molestation, because it trivializes their traumatic experiences.

Regardless, consenting adults is consenting adults.
Keffals and the 29 year old are both men and you're right, it is completely accepted in the gay community for older gay men to groom teenage boys like this. This is why nobody has had an issue with this before now, to the rainbow people this is normal. The only reason it is criticized now is not because they are "transgender", but because they caught the eye of a more conservative community, that is not as accepting of grooming as the LGBTQIAP+ folks are.

It's never been "morally questionable" until about 10 minutes ago. Older men have been marrying (much) younger women since the dawn of time. A 30yo pairing with a 14yo used to be the norm. Still is in many parts of the world.
Not true. This is a widely propagated myth and not a historical fact. The average age for people to get married has always been early/mid twenties, even in the middle ages. The only people who married off their prepubescent daughters to old men were royal families and they only did it to secure ties with other royal households. Average people did not do this.
 
Not true. This is a widely propagated myth and not a historical fact. The average age for people to get married has always been early/mid twenties, even in the middle ages. The only people who married off their prepubescent daughters to old men were royal families and they only did it to secure ties with other royal households. Average people did not do this.
That is wholly dependent on the available options of the area. Population, etc. Marriage records were only kept in more advanced countries too.

Note that I'm not making a moral judgement either way.
 
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