WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

[LolCowCentral]

Are you claiming that Khat isn't already well aware of his gacha addiction and absurd spending habits?
Because that would presuppose that at no point during their marriage of 2,5 years has Khat shown any (serious) interest in his income and expenditures (including during his bankruptcy),and that she hasn't watched or heard of any of the detractior content where Phil is being exposed as a wastrel mobile game addict.

Yeah. Most normal couples share finances prior to getting married. Their salaries and credits/debits. They also typically create a budget together.

With that being said. Kat is pretty dumb AND Phil kept talking about how she had her own bills and debt so she couldnt help with the neutral bills so it's very possible she has been completely separated from his finances. Especially since he has had a bankruptcy. My gut is that she has no idea.

 

[Pizza Parker's Pizza Time]

Yeah. Most normal couples share finances prior to getting married. Their salaries and credits/debits. They also typically create a budget together.

With that being said. Kat is pretty dumb AND Phil kept talking about how she had her own bills and debt so she couldnt help with the neutral bills so it's very possible she has been completely separated from his finances. Especially since he has had a bankruptcy. My gut is that she has no idea.

Didn't he recently claim that she watches his streams? Either he's lying as usual or she's truly ignorant of the shit show that is his life.

 

[Bigbadyeet]

Didn't he recently claim that she watches his streams? Either he's lying as usual or she's truly ignorant of the shit show that is his life.

No he said she watched the Royal Rumble videos and then they watched them together and she said they were ‘great’

 

[Iron Hamster]

Didn't he recently claim that she watches his streams? Either he's lying as usual or she's truly ignorant of the shit show that is his life.

Depends on what narrative he's going with at the time.

 

[QwahlityKahntent]

Are you claiming that Khat isn't already well aware of his gacha addiction and absurd spending habits?

well, she's kind of retarded

 

[Cyber Bowling]

Khet seems a lot like Phil in the sense she can't look into the future at all. It doesn't seem like she's ever had to do much budgeting or saving in her lifetime either. I don't think she's as much of an impulsive hoarder as DSP is, but as long as she keeps having a roof over her head, games to play and food Doordashed to her, she'll be content and assume the finances are fine.

 

[actually]

Khet seems a lot like Phil in the sense she can't look into the future at all. It doesn't seem like she's ever had to do much budgeting or saving in her lifetime either. I don't think she's as much of an impulsive hoarder as DSP is, but as long as she keeps having a roof over her head, games to play and food Doordashed to her, she'll be content and assume the finances are fine.

Tbf, I doubt she's ever had much means to do so, unlike Phil. Phil should have a solid nest egg in the 6-7 figures and has nothing. Kat has been shuffling around minimum wage retail jobs since she left high school.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

Khet seems a lot like Phil in the sense she can't look into the future at all. It doesn't seem like she's ever had to do much budgeting or saving in her lifetime either. I don't think she's as much of an impulsive hoarder as DSP is, but as long as she keeps having a roof over her head, games to play and food Doordashed to her, she'll be content and assume the finances are fine.

If it isn't her, I'm fucked if I know why he's being so retarded with this fraud shit. Even for him, it makes no sense to do it. The dents aren't trying to hold his hooves to the fire over the bank leaks, not even with their lower support, which is a hint he wouldn't pick up on anyway. He didn't bitch about the gacha fiend rep nearly as much before the day he showed his phone, which, BTW, he literally said "And?" in regards to. Biggest evidence in the whole pile, and it's the leaks that keep having to be labeled "fraudulent charges" over and over again? Illogical. They matter, sure, but everyone seeing Champions open on his phone, and the resulting provocation, clearly set him off more.

He could have easily dismissed the leaks as fabricated, it's not like the dents have woken up that much even with him claiming something so suspicious. They forgot within a month. We didn't, but we remember a lot of things that he stays fairly mum about, especially anything that didn't go as viral as The Incident or his racist compilations. Why this need for such a re-iterated pigsplaining? When no one even asked? He has seen the benefit of letting a past moment go, why not this one? Why does this one rate for being brought up when it wasn't called for?

 

[It's Over Anakin]

Instead he competed with other losers for fake internet points, and forced upon himself the stress of having to lie forever about his money, his hobbies, his free time, his relationship with his wife, etc. etc.

I'm willing to bet he thinks more about the embarrassment than about being exposed as a scammer. Doesn't matter, though, he knows he's both.

Just from another perspective, I was a bit of an addict to a certain mobile game (won't mention which), that I had played daily for the best part of 6 years. I used to be very few and far between on in-app purchases, a bit of in-game currency here and there to help with stamina refills etc, but it was once I started getting some nice payrises at work that my spending went stupid.

I had more disposable income, and rather than putting it away in savings, I was spending something like $250 a month on the game to push my progress faster. The "buy" button was just such a convenient way to save months of effort, and it worked on me. I wanted to quit all the time, but the sunk cost & time fallacies kept me going. I'd dedicated every day for years to this game and sunk a few thousand dollars into it as well, how could I quit?

Thankfully one day I had finished unlocking a hard-to-get character and when it dawned on me that the next thing to do was a long arduous grind for the next one, I immediately deleted my account and have been very happy since. It's predatory and if it can get someone like me (who has decent financial sense), then it's going to lock tards like Phil in for life, because he'll never feel like he's able to get rid without "losing" all the money he's put into it, not realising it was lost the second he spent it.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

Just from another perspective, I was a bit of an addict to a certain mobile game (won't mention which), that I had played daily for the best part of 6 years. I used to be very few and far between on in-app purchases, a bit of in-game currency here and there to help with stamina refills etc, but it was once I started getting some nice payrises at work that my spending went stupid.

I had more disposable income, and rather than putting it away in savings, I was spending something like $250 a month on the game to push my progress faster. The "buy" button was just such a convenient way to save months of effort, and it worked on me. I wanted to quit all the time, but the sunk cost & time fallacies kept me going. I'd dedicated every day for years to this game and sunk a few thousand dollars into it as well, how could I quit?

Thankfully one day I had finished unlocking a hard-to-get character and when it dawned on me that the next thing to do was a long arduous grind for the next one, I immediately deleted my account and have been very happy since. It's predatory and if it can get someone like me (who has decent financial sense), then it's going to lock tards like Phil in for life, because he'll never feel like he's able to get rid without "losing" all the money he's put into it, not realising it was lost the second he spent it.

Thanks for the insight. In addition, the fact that an "endgame" is a completely foreign concept to Phil, makes matters much worse. Meaning, he is not trying to be the highest ranking player he can be, by the time the servers are shut off, and the game is over. He is just chasing a dopamine rush every day, because he is dumb enough to not care about the cost, or much of anything else.

Truly depressed people are much the same way, but Phil isn't depressed. We know because he has tried to pull that as a card, and he never does that with shit that's real. He is amoral, but not clever enough to think to use a real flaw to his advantage. Or just won't, because he's too much of a pussy to willingly expose any vulnerabilities.

This is why I wish his account would get hacked and deleted, because then the competition moves on and he doesn't get to catch up, ever. THAT would hurt him, not the game being over for everyone.

 

[HackerX]

Just from another perspective, I was a bit of an addict to a certain mobile game (won't mention which), that I had played daily for the best part of 6 years. I used to be very few and far between on in-app purchases, a bit of in-game currency here and there to help with stamina refills etc, but it was once I started getting some nice payrises at work that my spending went stupid.

I had more disposable income, and rather than putting it away in savings, I was spending something like $250 a month on the game to push my progress faster. The "buy" button was just such a convenient way to save months of effort, and it worked on me. I wanted to quit all the time, but the sunk cost & time fallacies kept me going. I'd dedicated every day for years to this game and sunk a few thousand dollars into it as well, how could I quit?

Thankfully one day I had finished unlocking a hard-to-get character and when it dawned on me that the next thing to do was a long arduous grind for the next one, I immediately deleted my account and have been very happy since. It's predatory and if it can get someone like me (who has decent financial sense), then it's going to lock tards like Phil in for life, because he'll never feel like he's able to get rid without "losing" all the money he's put into it, not realising it was lost the second he spent it.

That's why it wouldn't have shocked me if DSP quit when six stars were introduced. There's a fine line on keeping a playerbase, between standard power creep and a implementing a new tier to effectively reset.

Ironically, people will spend money for minor benefits if it doesn't invalidate their prior playtime. However, when the slate is effectively wiped clean (and the player gets more value for their spending) there is a realization of "What's the point of playing"

The extra unfortunate thing is when there is no way to recoup your money for a lot of them.

Phils is completely fucked if that wasn't his wakeup call. He has no friends, family is across the country. The only people he interacts are either not humans, which encourage him or detractors, who are only jealous of himself. The only external force trying to get Phil to quit WWE Champions is money and banks will happily fund the habit (with interest rates of course). Bankruptcy could very likely have been the worst thing to happen because didn't change his behaviors PLUS that trump card is gone for a while. There is no easy way out next time, which is insane to think about.

 

[TJGamebox]

That's why it wouldn't have shocked me if DSP quit when six stars were introduced. There's a fine line on keeping a playerbase, between standard power creep and a implementing a new tier to effectively reset.

Ironically, people will spend money for minor benefits if it doesn't invalidate their prior playtime. However, when the slate is effectively wiped clean (and the player gets more value for their spending) there is a realization of "What's the point of playing"

The extra unfortunate thing is when there is no way to recoup your money for a lot of them.

Phils is completely fucked if that wasn't his wakeup call. He has no friends, family is across the country. The only people he interacts are either not humans, which encourage him or detractors, who are only jealous of himself. The only external force trying to get Phil to quit WWE Champions is money and banks will happily fund the habit (with interest rates of course). Bankruptcy could very likely have been the worst thing to happen because didn't change his behaviors PLUS that trump card is gone for a while. There is no easy way out next time, which is insane to think about.

His characters are still useful even at 6 star. When supercard went to season 2 old cards became useless cause you couldn’t level it beyond what the new cards would. Think having the premier 50k power card, then next week everyone can get 100k power cards

 

[HackerX]

His characters are still useful even at 6 star. When supercard went to season 2 old cards became useless cause you couldn’t level it beyond what the new cards would. Think having the premier 50k power card, then next week everyone can get 100k power cards

So what's the perception from the players then? I've never played any microtransaction game that wasn't cosmetic-oriented, so I'm looking at this from a mostly clueless POV.

Do players think they'll still be able to be competitive without rushing to the new tier for a while or is it more of a "I'm gonna have to start upgrading soon". Or is it something else entirely?

And I'm also curious, since you are seemingly a reasonable player of the game, what's stopping you (or someone like you) from whaling out? I'd assume generic reasons, but it's very surreal that addiction is just that powerful for people like Phil.

The shit needs to be regulated to some extent immediately, IMO. It's worse than throwing money at a casino by a country mile.

 

[TurdFondler]

Do players think they'll still be able to be competitive without rushing to the new tier for a while or is it more of a "I'm gonna have to start upgrading soon". Or is it something else entirely?

No one on the leaderboard actually plays the game. It's all about getting pulls and pumping stats. People will probably be saving up to whale out and be the first with the new tiers.

People took full days off work when WoW expansions dropped just to make their levels go up, can't see these addicts being more reasonable than WoW players.

 

[TJGamebox]

So what's the perception from the players then? I've never played any microtransaction game that wasn't cosmetic-oriented, so I'm looking at this from a mostly clueless POV.

Do players think they'll still be able to be competitive without rushing to the new tier for a while or is it more of a "I'm gonna have to start upgrading soon". Or is it something else entirely?

And I'm also curious, since you are seemingly a reasonable player of the game, what's stopping you (or someone like you) from whaling out? I'd assume generic reasons, but it's very surreal that addiction is just that powerful for people like Phil.

The shit needs to be regulated to some extent immediately, IMO. It's worse than throwing money at a casino by a country mile.

What’s stopping me from whaling out?

I do spend on the game still. I’ll buy guaranteed packs. I’ll wait for contests that are for one character, but gives me free shards for a character I don’t have yet but can get by grinding.

I also have insane luck. When the newest Rock came out (god tier according to wwe champions.) I opened him and he has been the backbone.

Also I got a faction that is actually supporting and can get faction points and contest. I can get more resources than Phil if we look at a non-spending vacuum

As of right now 5 star golds can beat 6 star bronze. It’s not too hard but still sucks to beat.

No one on the leaderboard actually plays the game. It's all about getting pulls and pumping stats. People will probably be saving up to whale out and be the first with the new tiers.

People took full days off work when WoW expansions dropped just to make their levels go up, can't see these addicts being more reasonable than WoW players.

People take days off too to grind the game too. Faction feuds there are streams of people playing 24 hours straight just to maybe get a free character

 

[strandedcastaway]

And dont forgot that he had to spend THOUSANDS on lawyers to get this fixed, and now he is in the hole financially because of it.

The same high price lawyers also told Phil to not mention it on stream...

Please tip...

Right, because he had his identity stolen, but none of the information in it was correct and we should ignore that it happened, but it all ruined Phil's life and cost him thousands of dollars to fix, even though it didn't happen, but it did happen.

 

[DeeTracktor]

Right, because he had his identity stolen, but none of the information in it was correct and we should ignore that it happened, but it all ruined Phil's life and cost him thousands of dollars to fix, even though it didn't happen, but it did happen.

And he was told not to mention it on stream by the high priced lawyers but brings up how much this sets him back everytime tips are slow...

 

[HackerX]

What’s stopping me from whaling out?

I do spend on the game still. I’ll buy guaranteed packs. I’ll wait for contests that are for one character, but gives me free shards for a character I don’t have yet but can get by grinding.

I also have insane luck. When the newest Rock came out (god tier according to wwe champions.) I opened him and he has been the backbone.

Also I got a faction that is actually supporting and can get faction points and contest. I can get more resources than Phil if we look at a non-spending vacuum

As of right now 5 star golds can beat 6 star bronze. It’s not too hard but still sucks to beat.

Would you say you're competitive with just about everyone? I assume the giga-whales are probably too much and can just brute force everything.

Do people whale for the wrestlers or the win percentage? I'd guess that they are both essentially the same, but I'm trying to wrap my head around it all. If someone were to spend about 3x more than you (and same grinding effort), does their win rate go up enough to even justify it?

 

[TJGamebox]

Would you say you're competitive with just about everyone? I assume the giga-whales are probably too much and can just brute force everything.

Do people whale for the wrestlers or the win percentage? I'd guess that they are both essentially the same, but I'm trying to wrap my head around it all. If someone were to spend about 3x more than you (and same grinding effort), does their win rate go up enough to even justify it?

They whale for the new characters for more resources to be top. Some are collectors too like EdDawggyDogg who is in top 10 of everything (no 1 in a tourney to get a 100% gem damage for anyone strap) but regardless, if you know who you are facing, there is a counter to everyone.

I have most counters so I’m good. I should stream sometime and show more lol

 

[Akashic Retard]

How the fuck have you people talked about this shit for nearly 500 pages