Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

How will Bob react to seeing the Mario film?


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I agree with most of what you said but these two are wrong. The first one you're referencing was from an ambiguously canon comic referencing a Pre-Crisis story where he was a political prisoner at a work camp though it was spread around out of context. The second one came from a White Knight prequel and isn't even in continuity.
My thing is even in elseworlds they never would had gone there with those 2 characters a few years ago.

I mean things like Connor being Asexual and Jon being Bi aren't breaking canon given Connor was sexless and rumored gay or Ace since the 90's and Jon was a blank slate. But this is all being done not for representation but attaboys for the writers being good SJWs.
 
Oh, that's what Bob was going for. But Bob being Bob, he once again missed that what he was asking for we already more or less have.

Let's be honest, there's no way to make a 1:1 life size Hot Wheels track safe for human use.
I was going to make the same joke but saw you beat me to it. But yeah, just build a regular Rollercoaster, paint the track orange and bam, you got your hot wheels ride.
 
My thing is even in elseworlds they never would had gone there with those 2 characters a few years ago.

I mean things like Connor being Asexual and Jon being Bi aren't breaking canon given Connor was sexless and rumored gay or Ace since the 90's and Jon was a blank slate. But this is all being done not for representation but attaboys for the writers being good SJWs.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. I just felt like clarifying since there are a bunch of people who go off sometimes baseless clickbait both pro and anti to determine where things are at. Really bizarre since it's not like there's a shortage of bad comics that people need to make stuff up. For example, the other day I saw some fujoshi trying to argue a bunch of the characters are gay in the comics to justify her MCU ships and people who'd otherwise hate her took her word for it.
 
Joe Rogan defends abortion "rights". Eugenicsbob approves.
I always like how you're essentially MovieBob without the audience. Or the fame. And I know what I'm saying.

Like you come in here, with your dime store takes and your boomer ass image reactions. And like MovieBob you have fucking nothing to say. You don't even have quips. You have fucking buzzwords and quotation marks. I could mock up Moviebob tweets with your pithy little responses, change a couple names, and I don't think anyone could tell the difference.
 
Re: Amazon's LOTR show: I'm not interested and won't be watching it.
It is not, the first two Captain America movies can be considered "serious", as in, the first one is a earnest pulp action adventure in the same vein of the Rocketeer (also, same diretor), and the second is a straight forward spy action flick, and those are fine movies.

And there is the issue of the very nature of capeshit, no matter how much "seriousness" you try to inject into the writing, how much much deserved and earnest pathos you give the characters, these are still people wearing silly costumes with silly names designed for silly books made to sell gum for kids, so, there is a limit you know.

That is why the Marvel "humor" managed to work so well at first, it managed to bring levity to the fact we are dealing with grown ass people walking around with silly costumes and names without the forced "seriousness" like the Ang lee Hulk trying to be a shakespearean tragedy and kinda managed to crack the code of how to make these modern super-hero movies, balancing the campiness of the Reimi's Spider-man with the serious drab of the X-men flicks.

But, you know, times take its toll and "Flanderization" occurs, such is the march of time. Can't really fault Disney or any of the production people really, they were just giving the people what they wanted, but more and more as the movies go along and it will take some time till audiences have enough of it, or at least for it to be tangible for the mouse.

Right now, they are making money, so all is well for them.
Personally, I think that Hollywood executives underestimate people's desire for sincerity in their entertainment. Just look at Top Gun: Maverick: it's the highest grossing film of the year and at no point does it wink at the audience to remind them of how "stupid" this all is, instead opting to let them get swept up in the melodrama of it all.

Similarly, Wonder Woman was a big hit five years ago, and that movie never felt the need to consciously undermine itself by employing bathos during emotional moments.

Really, what I think this obsession with bathos in major blockbusters like the MCU signals is a lack of confidence in the material from the people making them. They seem to be embarrassed on some level by displays of sincerity coming from movies about "people wearing silly costumes with silly names designed for silly books made to sell gum for kids", and project that embarrassment onto the rest of the audience.

As to why Bob defends this approach to the material, is it simply him working backwards from being an MCU fanboy, so he must defend them from any criticism no matter how well founded? Or is he on some level embarrassed for liking it in the first place, so he likes them having copious amounts of bathos to reassure him that he's cool?
 
Personally, I think that Hollywood executives underestimate people's desire for sincerity in their entertainment. Just look at Top Gun: Maverick: it's the highest grossing film of the year and at no point does it wink at the audience to remind them of how "stupid" this all is, instead opting to let them get swept up in the melodrama of it all.
See also the growing appreciation for foreign films. Bollywood can be deeply hilarious and silly at times, but they are always very, VERY sincere in the films and I keep finding more and more people loving them.
 
See also the growing appreciation for foreign films. Bollywood can be deeply hilarious and silly at times, but they are always very, VERY sincere in the films and I keep finding more and more people loving them.
Speaking of Bollywood. Sacred Games is an Indian Netflix cop drama that is very much set for western sensibilities. I just found out about (very late to the party) but if you want to watch something new without getting lost in translation then give it a go.
 
In the 80's you had fun films like Cobra, Commando, Rocky 4, Death Wish 3, Invasion USA, Tango and Cash, Rambo 2, Running Man, Roadhouse, Remo Williams, & Pretty much any Steven Seagal film that were over the top ridiculousness but made with complete sincerity and they were awesome. The actors and creators made these types of movies with the idea of "Will this look cool".

Problem is now you have a generation of assholes who think these films were trying to be practically parodies of action films and want to emulate them without understanding them.
 
My (public) school taught kids to read this way and I was confused as I already knew how to read (with phonics). Kids reading out loud sounded like little fucking robots and it sounded so weird.
Same here. I was never more grateful that my mom taught me phonics then when they still had remedial reading classes in Grade 7. (I was the town freak, being able to read at 5 years old. Like when my barber retired and I went to another guy for my final trim before leaving town forever, the dude said "You're the kid who could read on the first day of school!" I was twenty-four and this is what followed me.)

I have seen the Canadian education system as a student and a staff member. It is utterly fucked.

Wait, apparently there are no Rings this season. Well, sheesh, guess we'll have to wait until the third season to find out. Shows don't get good until the third season anyway. At least that's what TheOneRing.net says ... for some reason.
Lawd Dem Rangs ain't got no rangs?

Ask any child what their favourite thing to watch is and I can almost guarantee it won't even have humans in, yet they have an easy time relating to what's happening. Kids can empathise with a fucking cartoon deer when his mum gets shot, so why can't these adults empathise with a different colour actor on screen?
Because they don't know what empathy is. The word seems to have been redefined as "noticing that the other person has the same identitarian labels as you". So a single dad can't empathize with a single mom character, but an empty-egg-carton wine aunt totally gets it.
 
Re: Amazon's LOTR show: I'm not interested and won't be watching it.

Personally, I think that Hollywood executives underestimate people's desire for sincerity in their entertainment. Just look at Top Gun: Maverick: it's the highest grossing film of the year and at no point does it wink at the audience to remind them of how "stupid" this all is, instead opting to let them get swept up in the melodrama of it all.

Similarly, Wonder Woman was a big hit five years ago, and that movie never felt the need to consciously undermine itself by employing bathos during emotional moments.

Really, what I think this obsession with bathos in major blockbusters like the MCU signals is a lack of confidence in the material from the people making them. They seem to be embarrassed on some level by displays of sincerity coming from movies about "people wearing silly costumes with silly names designed for silly books made to sell gum for kids", and project that embarrassment onto the rest of the audience.

As to why Bob defends this approach to the material, is it simply him working backwards from being an MCU fanboy, so he must defend them from any criticism no matter how well founded? Or is he on some level embarrassed for liking it in the first place, so he likes them having copious amounts of bathos to reassure him that he's cool?
Just to add to what you said, the late Richard Donner sought to avoid this very thing when was brought on to direct the prototype for (non-capeshit) superhero films, Superman '78. The production troubles on this were legendary as the original director, Guy Hamilton, bailed for tax reasons because they moved production from Italy to the UK. Donner looked at the original script, which was reportedly as campy as the 60s Batman television show, and was horrified by it and brought on another screenwriter as a "consultant" to punch up the script. He knew how important it was to make the audience believe that a man could fly and thus took the source material seriously. Same with Christopher Reeve, Margot Kidder, and pretty much the entire cast except for maybe Gene Hackman and Ned Beatty who were hamming it up with a huge slab of cheese.

One of the big reasons why the franchise floundered after Superman II was because Donner's successor, Richard Lester leaned waaaaaaay too heavily into the slapstick, with is why Superman III was a dud. Superman IV was even worse because of how cheap it was and because Reeve inserted a heavy-handed anti-nuclear message it in.
 
In the 80's you had fun films like Cobra, Commando, Rocky 4, Death Wish 3, Invasion USA, Tango and Cash, Rambo 2, Running Man, Roadhouse, Remo Williams, & Pretty much any Steven Seagal film that were over the top ridiculousness but made with complete sincerity and they were awesome. The actors and creators made these types of movies with the idea of "Will this look cool".

Problem is now you have a generation of assholes who think these films were trying to be practically parodies of action films and want to emulate them without understanding them.
When did sincerity die? A lot of the blame can be placed on the 90's and gen X, where the culture was 'yeah, well, whatever'. That mindset prevailed all the way to 08-09 with the hipsters where giving a shit was a cardinal sin. Now we can only enjoy things if they are ironic and nothing non ironic will ever be made until the zoomers are in their 50's.
 
When did sincerity die? A lot of the blame can be placed on the 90's and gen X, where the culture was 'yeah, well, whatever'. That mindset prevailed all the way to 08-09 with the hipsters where giving a shit was a cardinal sin. Now we can only enjoy things if they are ironic and nothing non ironic will ever be made until the zoomers are in their 50's.
Eh, maybe. It seems to me more and more people are getting bored with the hipster decon bullshit.
 
See also the growing appreciation for foreign films. Bollywood can be deeply hilarious and silly at times, but they are always very, VERY sincere in the films and I keep finding more and more people loving them.
I thought about bringing it up in my previous post, but have you seen RRR? It's an Indian action movie that came out this year (and is made in Tollywood, which is the South Indian, Telugu language version of Bollywood), and has really caught on with American audiences. To give you an idea of what it's like, I submit to you these two clips:



For context, the former is an action scene that takes place when one of the main characters unleashes a bunch of wild animal's at a party at the British governor of the region's mansion, and the latter is the two main characters engaging in a dance number at a different party earlier in the movie to upstage a snooty Brit who looks down on them.

Despite being ludicrously over-the-top, the movie is 100% sincere, and is a really touching story about an unlikely friendship at its core. Which you'd be hard pressed to see greenlit in contemporary Hollywood.
Just to add to what you said, the late Richard Donner sought to avoid this very thing when was brought on to direct the prototype for (non-capeshit) superhero films, Superman '78. The production troubles on this were legendary as the original director, Guy Hamilton, bailed for tax reasons because they moved production from Italy to the UK. Donner looked at the original script, which was reportedly as campy as the 60s Batman television show, and was horrified by it and brought on another screenwriter as a "consultant" to punch up the script. He knew how important it was to make the audience believe that a man could fly and thus took the source material seriously. Same with Christopher Reeve, Margot Kidder, and pretty much the entire cast except for maybe Gene Hackman and Ned Beatty who were hamming it up with a huge slab of cheese.

One of the big reasons why the franchise floundered after Superman II was because Donner's successor, Richard Lester leaned waaaaaaay too heavily into the slapstick, with is why Superman III was a dud. Superman IV was even worse because of how cheap it was and because Reeve inserted a heavy-handed anti-nuclear message it in.
And it wasn't just any old screenwriter: it was Mario Puzo, writer of the novel The Godfather is based on (and who also penned all three movies alongside Francis Ford Coppola).
 
Let's be honest, there's no way to make a 1:1 life size Hot Wheels track safe for human use.
That's obsolete believer talk. Obviously the thinker scientists already know how to build it, they just need some money, which is the exact same as magic, to make it happen.
As to why Bob defends this approach to the material, is it simply him working backwards from being an MCU fanboy, so he must defend them from any criticism no matter how well founded? Or is he on some level embarrassed for liking it in the first place, so he likes them having copious amounts of bathos to reassure him that he's cool?
It's a combination of both. Bob has always been a fan of style over substance (he gave The Last Airbender a good review because it was pretty) but also sees himself as this great intellectual who truly understands film. So rather than put in the work of learning proper film analysis and why he and the respected critics have such differing views, it's easier to say they're wrong and he's smarter than them for coming up with these moronic twistings and ignores the fact that everyone is mocking him for them.
 
Bobby thinks the Fed can sue Zaslav/WB because mah diversity
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And he thinks the slimming down of WB is a prelude to its being carved up for sale.
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Indeed, if you have only one brain cell and it is working overtime, everything is either gender or race.
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If "too many white men" is a problem for them, why aren't they watching Iranian or Nigerian cinema?

Like it or not, Flash remains a "hugely prestigious IP".
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Hollywood Cartoon Massacre. Zaslav has dip (Who Framed Roger Rabbit) on his hands.
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Learn to fucking code.

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Getting excited for next MCU product.
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Some transsexual has the best idea ever.
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You expose your media illiteracy if you overthink a CGI green man.
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Is this fucker real?

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To be fair not everyone hangs around with trannies on the internet like Bobby does.

SheWoke explains mansplaining.
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Poor thing! Poor victim of Patriarchy! Patriarchy has brainwashed her so much that she doesn't know there is an alternative to anger control, and it's called "not getting angry in the first place".
While I agree that wine moms as a whole is a profitable demographic, the intersection between "wine moms" and "fans of third-tier comic book character" must be vanishing small.

Ricardo Rebelo, a highly qualified film academic, explains how SheWoke is bad writing:
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"No one likes Mary Sues."
"She is not a Mary Sue; it is just natural that women are better than men."
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Just because Bobby misunderstands The Hero's Journey it means everyone does too. Autism, not even once!
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Not all film degrees is created equal; some makes you a Thinker and some makes you a Believer.
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The debate goes on; I leave it for the next installment.


Chipman's First Law of Creative Writing: the audience adore a character who abuses his authority and gets away with it.
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Fandom is religion; Bobby prays to Kevin Feige every night for a hot lesbun threesome.
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I don't know there are people who appreciate Mortal Kombat for its depth, until now.
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TMNT got unofficially Sonicked.
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If a character designer is so soft-shelled that he develops mental health issues when people criticize his design, he needs another line of work.

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What an ugly mess.


DeSantis wants to stop classrooms promulgating racial discord; the Fed thinks self-hatred is good for white kids.
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If Woke were not real why should the Federal court bother themselves with it?

As is well known, Boston Children's Hospital troons out kids as young as 3, performs bilateral mastectomies on girls as young as 15, and mutilates the genitals of children as young as 17.
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China loves furries; anyone who claims otherwise is a Trump propagandist!
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Michael Tracey does not Believe Women.
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Elon Musk:
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Got synthetic milk?
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Bobby can eat a whole cow, I mean a fairy small amount of food.
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Poor thing! Poor victim of Patriarchy! Patriarchy has brainwashed her so much that she doesn't know there is an alternative to anger control, and it's called "not getting angry in the first place".
While I agree that wine moms as a whole is a profitable demographic, the intersection between "wine moms" and "fans of third-tier comic book character" must be vanishing small.
Honestly the She-Hulk thing kinda does legitimately piss me off since it's a very common misconception and this show along with people like Bob are going to spread it. Jen actually isn't a female copy of the Hulk, She-Hulk's more akin to an "inner self" which is something she enjoys being though her inhibitions aren't as strong in that state. The general idea with gamma mutates in Marvel proper is how they're affected is determined by their psychological profile. So you have Banner's fractured mind from childhood abuse becoming more literal split personalities, Jen going from a wallflower to a statuesque free spirit, The Leader going from a dim witted janitor who wished he was intelligent to a hyper-intelligent mind, etc.

Can you tell me that's not more interesting than "grrr angry monster" and some broad statement about women? The psychological angle to Hulk usually gets shafted which is crazy since it's a big part of the books and easily the most interesting aspect imo.
 
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That interpretation of Squadron Supreme sounds more like Squadron Sinister, which were the OG evil Justice League (though Nighthawk reformed and joined the Defenders). Of course, Bob won't know this until he consults Wikipedia.
I mean he's been saying since WandaVision where he thought the blonde lady was Arcana Jones that he really wants the Squadron Supreme so they can be stand-ins for the Snyder Justice League and then there can be a movie where the MCU Avengers beat them up before quipping about it. The man's a child.
 
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