Manosphere Andrew Tate / Top G / Cobratate - Egotistical MRA "influencer", arrested for trafficking in Romania, lied about having lung cancer

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The War Room predates HU, because he took people from The War Room to be HU's "professors".

The cost serves two purposes: One, to make it expensive to spy on him. Two, to give people sunk cost fallacy. Once someone has paid the amount, they want to get the most of it. It's difficult to spy on him because that thing has multiple layers, which evidently you can only enter by "proving" yourself.


If I get it correctly, HU is only the first step to lead people to a higher price point with the ultimate goal of accessing the War Room? Cause $50 is hardly a big commitment. I guess that's even more sneaky than I thought. It's a gradual financial enlisement.

In the Full Send podcast he says there's "tasks, tests, things you must do to keep your place or you're booted". This is why it resembles the mafia, or a cult (Scientology: Pay money and do tasks to get more "knowledge"). Rather than straightforwardly getting people to refer others, that's simply one of many ways to extract value from them.

This on the other hand is so common. It's also often really biased in that you are actually judged on the results rather than effort or actual skills. Many will encourage you to burn a lot of cash in ads, even at a loss or to buy other courses. It's part of the learning experience, they do everything for you, but are you really committed to making big stacks of money?

It also means that it creates a climate of fear in what is often group calls/online communities. Nobody wants to speak out about anything, because they could risk losing it all. They know it can happen. There cannot be any healthy discussion in these conditions. If you dare complain about anything, they will exclude you on the basis that you're just trying to find excuses for your failures. They will also encourage others not to associate with you. It absolutely is cult mentality.
 
The first few pages of a thread being "not a lolcow" usually means the individual is a fucking wackjob in disguise. Tate is clearly a retard with brain damage, but his fanbase is more interesting by a long shot. Mainly because it's literal children between the ages of 11-18.
OP needs to be spruced up a bit but IMO I wouldn't mind following Tate's and his Tot's escapades.
 
It will be difficult to make the case for human trafficking unless he's literally holding those women hostage and continuously exploiting them. As far as I can see it's all consensual even if the lines are a little blurry. That video of him beating up a woman is most likely consensual too.
 
It will be difficult to make the case for human trafficking unless he's literally holding those women hostage and continuously exploiting them. As far as I can see it's all consensual even if the lines are a little blurry. That video of him beating up a woman is most likely consensual too.
It's legally considered human trafficking if you're finding women in the US and have them perform sex work for you in Romania. It's the equivalent of driving across state lines to skirt the age of consent laws. They think they find a loophole that isn't really there. It may not seem like he's "literally" holding them hostage, but dropping all of your other personal connections to be flown to Romania to have all of your funds siphoned through a pimp makes it difficult to get in contact with your family or friends (if they have any, that is.)

In a statement provided to The Daily Beast, Romania’s Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism said the raid on the Tates’ house was part of an investigation that began after a woman was reported to be held at the house against her will. As the probe continued, it escalated to include “crimes of human trafficking and rape.”
A Romanian newspaper reported that the raid was sparked over reports that an American woman was being held captive at the Tate house. Police found both the American and a Romanian woman in the building during the raid, according to the report. In a statement on the raid to The Daily Beast, a U.S. State Department spokesperson alluded to a reported abduction of an American citizen but declined to comment further.
I bring up these statements in particular because the article and the investigation specifically moved in because she stated she was being held against her will. This is not legal.

“No girls were found in my house, and nobody was arrested,” Tate said.
Tate says this, openly going against the investigation. I'd believe maybe that nobody was arrested, as the article alleges that "an arrest has yet to be made, but the investigation is still ongoing." but unwilling women were absolutely found on his property.
However, he goes on to say this.
Andrew Tate appeared to address the raid in an Instagram picture, featuring him smoking a cigar in a staged interrogation room as faux-police officers loomed over him. Tate added a caption: “Officer...l think we can all agree that bitches love to lie.”
Honestly funny on its own, but I do 100% believe women were found on his property and quickly saw a way to get out. Why would women lie to "get away from him" if he's so desirable as he claims?
Anyway, I write this retard essay, but I do believe a lolcow can just be a lolcow. They don't necessarily have to be degenerate, a pedophile, a dogfucker, a human trafficker, a sex pest, whatever pink tags come to this site for. Sometimes it's funny just to laugh at retarded brain-damaged cringelords that pretend they're alpha males that go on to grift an audience of impressionable fatherless teenagers. Andrew Tate is funny. Not because he speaks the truth, but because he does his speeches in such a cheesy grandiose way that it's caught the attention of content creators and children everywhere. He creates such a large amount of content, with the people around him (Adin Ross), and the people who choose to talk and react to him, that it's near impossible to not find something interesting to talk about.
 
It's legally considered human trafficking if you're finding women in the US and have them perform sex work for you in Romania.
Is it? And how do you prove those women didn't go to Romania on their own free will to do sex work? I'm not defending his actions but I don't think there's much to go from here.

Anyway, I write this retard essay, but I do believe a lolcow can just be a lolcow. They don't necessarily have to be degenerate, a pedophile, a dogfucker, a human trafficker, a sex pest, whatever pink tags come to this site for. Sometimes it's funny just to laugh at retarded brain-damaged cringelords that pretend they're alpha males that go on to grift an audience of impressionable fatherless teenagers. Andrew Tate is funny. Not because he speaks the truth, but because he does his speeches in such a cheesy grandiose way that it's caught the attention of content creators and children everywhere. He creates such a large amount of content, with the people around him (Adin Ross), and the people who choose to talk and react to him, that it's near impossible to not find something interesting to talk about.
I completely agree with you on this. But, lolcows tend to have some interesting orbiters, specially those involving in scams and other criminal activities. Say what you want about this retard, but there sure is a lot of money flowing in. Even if he trafficked women he still wouldn't have that much income (I'm assuming, looking at his fancy cars and all that). Might be worth looking into the stuff he owns and his inner circle.

I will see if I can dig up something.
Dunno if anyone has shared this already https://biooverview.com/andrew-tate-net-worth/#Assets_Properties ,it's a good place to start.
 
Is it? And how do you prove those women didn't go to Romania on their own free will to do sex work? I'm not defending his actions but I don't think there's much to go from here.
I agree with this, but I do think there's a bit of a misunderstanding about how human trafficking happens. Yes, the literal kidnappings on the street do occur. Women getting nonconsensually ripped from their homes and taken out of state to be sold to men. Human trafficking also happens when women are misled, abused, lead on, and/or manipulated or groomed. Coercion is specified in the definition of human trafficking. Unsurprising that the average woman who's trying to "Date the Tate" is a dumbfuck that can be coerced into fucking people for money.
I'm unsure of how familiar you are with Tate's antics, but he stated specifically the origins of his "Onlyfans business" occurred when the 6 women he was dating at the same time were flown to London given the proposition of being camgirls. It's an unethical practice, but it does exemplify his weird narcissism, apathy, and lack of compassion for other human beings. Tate's not a normal lad who just so happens to come across young and vulnerable women to beat.
 
I'm unsure of how familiar you are with Tate's antics, but he stated specifically the origins of his "Onlyfans business" occurred when the 6 women he was dating at the same time were flown to London given the proposition of being camgirls.
Why did they fly to London to be camwhores? They could have done it anywhere in the world.
 
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Even if he trafficked women he still wouldn't have that much income (I'm assuming, looking at his fancy cars and all that). Might be worth looking into the stuff he owns and his inner circle.
I feel that HU might just be the largest source of his income.
This video says he has over 100,000 members, if I remember correctly. Multiply that by $50/mo. and you have $5mil/mo or $60mil/year. Even if he spends half of it on his teachers and such (a high estimate, considering you could just pre-make lesson plans and get someone from fiverr to read them for you or something; and this is on a discord server), that's still $30mil/year. The Bugatti supposedly cost $4mil, so that's well within striking distance.
 
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s to want to share his alpha male secrets to.
Fact is, he's "winning" at life, but the annals of history will not be kind to him - nor will the law, or Bubba, if he's found guilty of sex slavery and/or trafficking.
you stupid faggot. its romania, he's the blackest man in the country. he is Bubba.
Speaking of balding, Derek MorePlatresMoreDates.com made a video saying he probably takes steroids, unless he has something like acromegaly or non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Steroids can cause balding.
MPMD is literally the competition, you might as well ask a guy at pepsico if coca-cola is made using horse semen.
 
MPMD is literally the competition, you might as well ask a guy at pepsico if coca-cola is made using horse semen.
Somebody tell me how he is in any of the niches Tate is in. Half of MPMD's videos are about steroids, supplements and natty or not. Plus if you've watched any of his other videos, as I have, he seems to know what he's talking about in terms of steroids
 
Somebody tell me how he is in any of the niches Tate is in. Half of MPMD's videos are about steroids, supplements and natty or not. Plus if you've watched any of his other videos, as I have, he seems to know what he's talking about in terms of steroids
MorePlatesMoreDates is a manosphere PUA type, he may have transitioned out of the dating part but he still has the same monthly fee scam and everything else. he may be leaning more on the fitness angle but overall its the same shit with a different routine. "this guy is taking steroids while i earned my lambos legitimately"
 
MorePlatesMoreDates is a manosphere PUA type, he may have transitioned out of the dating part but he still has the same monthly fee scam and everything else
Monthly fee? I don't know what you're talking about. As far as I know these are MPMD's revenue streams:
  1. His Youtube channel/ad revenue - focused scientific info on on steroids and supplements for fitness
  2. His blood testing service
  3. His supplement line
Where's the monthly fee?

Tate, on the other hand:
  1. Webcam/OnlyFans
  2. Youtube/social media ad revenue - focused on shit takes and alpha male bullshit
  3. Hustlers' University and The War Room monthly fees- "teaching" people how to "make money"
  4. casinos
MPMD is literally the competition, you might as well ask a guy at pepsico if coca-cola is made using horse semen.
If you're gonna do an appeal to motives then your best shot is likely "starting influencer drama" or "click-bait", but the latter only really applies to the title of the video.
And as again, their niches barely overlap. If your analogy was accurate it would be:
you might as well ask a guy at pepsico if the pfizer covid vaccine is made using horse semen
"this guy is taking steroids while i earned my lambos legitimately"
Derek admits to taking steroids himself, and I don't know why taking steroids would diminish one's credibility as a steroids expert. If anything, the lived experience would make one an even greater expert. Plus, a quick look at youtube fitness shows that "Natty or Not" is a pretty popular genre of videos

Now give me my goddamn top hats and puzzle pieces and trashcans.
 
Monthly fee? I don't know what you're talking about. As far as I know these are MPMD's revenue streams:
  1. His Youtube channel/ad revenue - focused scientific info on on steroids and supplements for fitness
  2. His blood testing service
  3. His supplement line
Derek admits to taking steroids himself, and I don't know why taking steroids would diminish one's credibility as a steroids expert. If anything, the lived experience would make one an even greater expert. Plus, a quick look at youtube fitness shows that "Natty or Not" is a pretty popular genre of videos

Now give me my goddamn top hats and puzzle pieces and trashcans.
Explain to the class what "More Plates More Dates" means. After that you can explain why he wants to test people's blood and why supplements are 100% real and useful and work.
 
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same monthly fee scam
Explain to the class how it's the same scam. After that you can tell us how many of his last 20 videos are about dating

And even if Derek MorePlatesMoreDates.com is every bit as bad, it absolves Andrew Tate of NOTHING. Just because someone else is worse doesnt mean theyre any better.

Plus, youre literally nit-picking ONE MINOR ASPECT of what Tate did, and not the most horrible part, not by a long shot.
 
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Explain to the class how it's the same scam. After that you can tell us how many of his last 20 videos are about dating

And even if Derek MorePlatesMoreDates.com is every bit as bad, it absolves Andrew Tate of NOTHING. Just because someone else is worse doesnt mean theyre any better.

Plus, youre literally nit-picking ONE MINOR ASPECT of what Tate did, and not the most horrible part, not by a long shot.
this nigga wants your blood and you defending a vampire. you a gigasimp
 
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