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I don't think anyone here was under that illusion (maybe low IQ ISWV Twitter speds).
Why would he go back to that den of vipers after seeing their true nature?
Poor use of "everyone" on my part. Most here had realistic expectations & isn't taking it as a personal loss. I was referring to those (mostly twitter) speds who always used the " wait until appeals" argument and acted like if vic won appeals everything would go back to how it was, funimation would fire everyone and the entire future of anime hinged on Vics appeals.
 
They affirmed on the TCPA dismissal and remanded on the low fees granted to Rial and Toye.

This is pretty much worst timeline for Vic. Holy shit.

Not just bad end, Worst End. Not only was the suit tossed, but he's going to have to pay even more.


Looking at the two of them, it's sometimes hard to tell which one is gay and which isn't.


The sad part is, if I remember, Vic actually attended Ty's daughter's wedding. That's how much Vic liked and trust Ty.

I'll laugh at Ty, but fuck, I feel bad that it's at Gay Pants Man's expense.

Vic will be okay, but I hate that the people who did this don't get their proper comeuppance.

What really scares me about all this, though, is that Vic is technically one of the "lucky" ones. He lost his job, longtime friends, and roles that were really important to him, but he managed to at least pull through and not lose everything. How many other people get falsely accused and fare much worse? And imagine being innocent and not getting hired/having everyone believe the lies while waiting over two or so years for an appeal - two or so years where your life is in limbo. And then this. It makes me hate these false accusers even more.

People wanted vic to win so he can continue doing cons without vendors getting harassed & maybe work in other studios. But now he lost those vendors or studios have the ultimate out not to work with vic, making kickvic's social death attempts emboldened. Like the sun trial, after depp lost he faced more damages then the initial allegations.

Ah well. Shame. Boring outcome.
So what now? Vic got the worst outcome, KV won, everyone will have reason to ditch him, Matsuri projects may be dead in the water now, Sony builds a monopoly, and Vic will be hounded for money until his death with the only reason he won’t be driven homeless is because of Texas state law. And KV moves to their next target who won’t have as much defense or support. Also, studios have a reason to unperson Vic from all his past output.


 
I'm willing to wager that Rekieta was bluffing about having information from this "C", and it was just a grift.

Yet again... the Funileaks...
Nick didn't make up those audio clips all by himself, he has to have an insider.

As for my two cents on the lawsuit:
Vic still showed his fans that Monica and Jamie are full of shit, and Ron is still the only actual court documented abuser in this whole thing.
Funimation has been exposed as the toxic workplace it is, and their fans has been exposed as being thirsty simping loosers to be laughed at.
This "victory" cost them all so much, it's a pyrrhic one for sure.

The only winners are the lawyers, and the kiwis who got a whole bunch of new cows to entertain them.
And I'm looking forward to Ron arguing with random nobodies on twitter about it for decades.
 
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So what now? Vic got the worst outcome, KV won, everyone will have reason to ditch him, Matsuri projects may be dead in the water now, Sony builds a monopoly, and Vic will be hounded for money until his death with the only reason he won’t be driven homeless is because of Texas state law. And KV moves to their next target who won’t have as much defense or support. Also, studios have a reason to unperson Vic from all his past output.


You are way too invested. You aren't going to save the world. All this shit is outside your control.

Just point and laugh.
 
Yet again... the Funileaks...
Nick didn't make up those audio clips all by himself, he has to have an insider.

As for my two cents on the lawsuit:
Vic still showed his fans that Monica and Jamie are full of shit, and Ron is still the only actual court documented abuser in this whole thing.
Funimation has been exposed as the toxic workplace it is, and their fans has been exposed as being thirsty simping loosers to be laughed at.
This "victory" cost them all so much, it's a pyrrhic one for sure.

The only winners are the lawyers, and the kiwis who got a whole bunch of new cows to entertain them.
And I'm looking forward to Ron arguing with random nobodies about it on twitter for decades.
But what does that amount to in the real world? Vic lost the case, is on the hook for a lot of money, and has no real way to get back in the industry unless he has the range to dub every voice himself. And even then, who’d buy that?

You are way too invested. You aren't going to save the world. All this shit is outside your control.

Just point and laugh.
What is there to laugh at?
 
The amount of retards eneraged by the lawsuit will always mean the lawsuit was worth it. The fact an innocent man stood up for himself was enough to make all these idiots spend 3 years tweeting about it non-stop like deranged lunatics. That alone was a win in and of itself, and it successfully exposed this as nothing other than shallow cancel culture BS for the other side for anyone that dared to pay attention to it. Vic still has support. This won't be the end for him, and anyone who was paying attention should have accounted for this probably happening anyways.
 
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That would happen no matter what. Most of the cons have already made their minds up regarding Vic, him winning appeals wasn't going to get him re-invited to the cons that have cancelled him. Studios weren't going to work with him anyways, win or lose his career with major studios was over. This wasn't about his guilt, it was proving he was defamed. It will def. Embolden to KV and the VAs to publicly attack him more, but IMO the major damage had already been done.

It would have been a bit of a boon to his rep, now we just know that a bunch of people are going to just take the loss and wave it around as if it means that Vis is indeed a rapist. Evil winning on technicalities and flaunting it is the sad ending.
You’re wrong about one thing, there’s one way this can get worse: Nick is proven right and Vic is driven to suicide because all of his supporters have turned on him. I doubt it, but if the Risembool Rangers end up disbanding or disavowing Vic, I’d say that’s a thing to watch out for.

The amount of retards eneraged by the lawsuit will always mean the lawsuit was worth it. The fact an innocent man stood up for himself was enough to make all these idiots spend 3 years tweeting about it non-stop like deranged lunatics. That alone was a win in and of itself, and it successfully exposed this as nothing than shallow cancel culture BS for the other side for anyone that dared to pay attention to it. Vic still has support. This won't be the end for him, and anyone who was payting attention should have accounted for this probably happening anyways.
Then you realize history is written by the winners and Vic goes down as Harvey Weinstein, R Kelly, and Bill Cosby combined. And the Funimation crew is hailed as heroes. Enjoy fighting against a regime who’ll be more than happy to end you for the crime of challenging the official story.
 
You’re wrong about one thing, there’s one way this can get worse: Nick is proven right and Vic is driven to suicide because all of his supporters have turned on him. I doubt it, but if the Risembool Rangers end up disbanding or disavowing Vic, I’d say that’s a thing to watch out for.


Then you realize history is written by the winners and Vic goes down as Harvey Weinstein, R Kelly, and Bill Cosby combined. And the Funimation crew is hailed as heroes. Enjoy fighting against a regime who’ll be more than happy to end you for the crime of challenging the official story.

You did the same kind of over the top doomer-pilling over the 2020 election. While I can understand your sentiment, you just need to chill out. I don't know why you expected the appeals to go his way when the legal system was already shown to be retarded with Chupp's decision.

Vic has never been charged with anything and these jerks won on technicalities in a defamation lawsuit over subpar legal filings. Nothing has been proven. Even if he won, he still woudln't be in with the retards at Funimation/CR/Sony. Let the idiots take their victory lap. Vic isn't going to lose any fans over this, and he will still manage to survive as long as his fans have a way to support him.
 
You did the same kind of over the top doomer-pilling over the 2020 election. While I can understand your sentiment, you just need to chill out. I don't know why you expected the appeals to go his way when the legal system was already shown to be retarded with Chupp's decision.
I was hoping things would go his way because of optimism. And since apparently Chupp didn’t want to do his job, appeals would notice. Guess Ty fucked up worse than I thought and I underestimated how much Vic’s own words would be used against him. And that GIF will now be used to destroy his career and it’s prospects.
Vic has never been charged with anything and these jerks won on technicalities in a defamation lawsuit over subpar legal filings. Nothing has been proven. Even if he won, he still woudln't be in with the retards at Funimation/CR/Sony. Let the idiots take their victory lap. Vic isn't going to lose any fans over this, and he will still manage to survive as long as his fans have a way to support him.
A win on technicalities is still a win t the end of the day. It’s still going to be celebrated like a domination. I already knew Sony and company had a burnt bridge. My worry is that Sony’s reach will keep Vic or anyone that’s not with the in crowd from having a career. And as much as being “based and redpilled” could lead to its own idiocy and destroying of arguments, the fact nobody outside of Stan and Matsuri are like that, along with everyone being super worried about image and PR, makes me wonder what prospects are there for those who aren’t rolling with Sabat and his crew.
 
I was hoping things would go his way because of optimism. And since apparently Chupp didn’t want to do his job, appeals would notice. Guess Ty fucked up worse than I thought and I underestimated how much Vic’s own words would be used against him. And that GIF will now be used to destroy his career and it’s prospects.

A win on technicalities is still a win t the end of the day. It’s still going to be celebrated like a domination. I already knew Sony and company had a burnt bridge. My worry is that Sony’s reach will keep Vic or anyone that’s not with the in crowd from having a career. And as much as being “based and redpilled” could lead to its own idiocy and destroying of arguments, the fact nobody outside of Stan and Matsuri are like that, along with everyone being super worried about image and PR, makes me wonder what prospects are there for those who aren’t rolling with Sabat and his crew.
And this is why corporate oligarchies are bad.

Even if this industry fixes all of its own internal problems/issues overnight at the end of the day it’s still a small group of people at the top controlling and running everything deciding who gets to stay and who doesn’t.

That’s not good for anyone.
 
I was hoping things would go his way because of optimism. And since apparently Chupp didn’t want to do his job, appeals would notice. Guess Ty fucked up worse than I thought and I underestimated how much Vic’s own words would be used against him. And that GIF will now be used to destroy his career and it’s prospects.

A win on technicalities is still a win t the end of the day. It’s still going to be celebrated like a domination. I already knew Sony and company had a burnt bridge. My worry is that Sony’s reach will keep Vic or anyone that’s not with the in crowd from having a career. And as much as being “based and redpilled” could lead to its own idiocy and destroying of arguments, the fact nobody outside of Stan and Matsuri are like that, along with everyone being super worried about image and PR, makes me wonder what prospects are there for those who aren’t rolling with Sabat and his crew.
And this is why corporate oligarchies are bad.

Even if this industry fixes all of its own internal problems/issues overnight at the end of the day it’s still a small group of people at the top controlling and running everything deciding who gets to stay and who doesn’t.

That’s not good for anyone.

Every industry is filled with scumbags. Movies are ran by scumbags. Music is ran by scumbags. Videogames are ran by scumbags. It's no surprise that now translated anime imports are ran by scumbags. In fact, it's likely they were always scumbags, we were just naive. Overall, if you want to be able to deal with this properly, instead of getting angry, just don't play ball with these people. Don't let them occupy any real estate in your head, which is what they want, to fuck with you so they can get off on the idea of being above their paying customers, and just let them fester and rot without your money or your attention.

With anime, this is easy. It's called piracy. Support what Vic does and find new ways to support him, but otherwise, if you hate the people involved in this bullshit niche industry, stop paying for US Blu-rays and stop paying for US streaming services. You don't need thise people to enjoy anime. Hell, there's a reason why /a/ doesn't even entertain discussion about these people. Just buy Japanese merch to send funds to the Japanese IP you like and call it a day.
 
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As expected, KV is laughing it up and having a ball.
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Don't you just love how they celebrate a man losing his livelihood with the most obnoxious GIFs they can find?
 
As expected, KV is laughing it up and having a ball.
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Don't you just love how they celebrate a man losing his livelihood with the most obnoxious GIFs they can find?
And they’re talking about Vic having to pay more money? They really want Vic to be dead and homeless.

This is why I wanted Vic to win, so their smugness wouldn’t be satisfied as they move to make it where their enemies are left begging for spare change on the side of the road at best or six feet under at worst .
 
As expected, KV is laughing it up and having a ball.
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Don't you just love how they celebrate a man losing his livelihood with the most obnoxious GIFs they can find?
Who cares what terminally online Twitter retards think? We're only here to laugh at them. Imagine how much effort these people have put into this crap over a period of 3 years. Maybe if people like JupiterGirl put that kind of effort into work, she wouldn't have to e-beg to buy Taco Bell.
 
Who cares what terminally online Twitter retards think? We're only here to laugh at them. Imagine how much effort these people have put into this crap over a period of 3 years. Maybe if people like JupiterGirl put that kind of effort into work, she wouldn't have to e-beg to buy Taco Bell.
Who cares? A lot of companies and conventions that would have brought Vic in for easy money had this ruling not poisoned his name. And Marzgurl is just the type of person that’s able to get through to them.
 
Who cares? A lot of companies and conventions that would have brought Vic in for easy money had this ruling not poisoned his name. And Marzgurl is just the type of person that’s able to get through to them.
And why do you give a shit about companies and cons that don't give a shit about you? And Vic winning his appeal wouldn't mean the people at these companies and cons would miraculously stop being shitheels. The writing was on the wall years ago. Wake up. Vic was never going to get back in with these people. You may as well be expecting CNN to start saying good things about Trump. It was never going to happen. Fuck these people and stop giving a shit about them.
 
Who cares what terminally online Twitter retards think? We're only here to laugh at them. Imagine how much effort these people have put into this crap over a period of 3 years. Maybe if people like JupiterGirl put that kind of effort into work, she wouldn't have to e-beg to buy Taco Bell.
We’ve been laughing and mocking these people for 3 years and they’re the exact same people still. They haven’t changed at all, the world around them has. It’s not funny anymore.

I say let them be smug and arrogant over all this. It’s probably the only real emotional joy they have because no one in their right minds would want to associate with these people. If I had a friend or personally knew someone who behaved like this I would be ashamed/embarrassed.
 
We’ve been laughing and mocking these people for 3 years and they’re the exact same people still. They haven’t changed at all, the world around them has. It’s not funny anymore.

I say let them be smug and arrogant over all this. It’s probably only really emotional joy they have because no one in their right minds would want to associate with these people. If I had a friend or personally knew someone who behaved like this I would be ashamed/embarrassed.
You’re not wrong, but the fact that they’re hoping for someone to lose everything before kicking the bucket is what sickens me.
 
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