Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[David Glowie]

Yeah forced pregnancy is traumatic regardless, but I can't imagine what it's like to be forced to gestate something that's not even compatible with life. A healthy kid isn't in the cards in this situation no matter what, even though the woman wanted that more than anything.

This is just pointless cruelty to women for the sake of pointless cruelty to women, especially since you know she's not the only woman in that situation in abortion ban states.

See also, 10 year old rape victims being forced to go out of state to abort chomo embryos.

I hope the obstetrics team has intravenous Valium on standby for that poor woman. (And a hat for the unfortunate baby.)

 

[Bizzy Bee]

Ummm...

What the actual fuck.

 

[Crusty sock monkey]

What the actual fuck.

I would say Russians, but this seems a bit far to even blame it on shit culture.

 

[Android raptor]

What the actual fuck.

At least she's honest about how much she resents and abuses her spud?

Hopefully the kid is too potato to feel being hit

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

It's easy to just dismiss her as an evil psychopath, but I think it's worth considering that she is exactly what happens when parents of special needs kids have no outlet and no support. She's the sole caregiver for a child who has pretty severe microcephaly and is in diapers, at the very least. It's not an excuse for hitting him, ever, but I wonder when was the last time she had a few quiet moments to herself. When did she last get a shower? A cup of tea that was still hot? A full night's uninterrupted sleep? When did someone last ask her about how she's doing, rather than framing the question in terms of her child's health? If she gets sick, is she able to go to bed, or does she have to death-march through her day because nobody else will care for him? Does she lose sleep worrying about what will happen to him when she dies? Does she ever get to have an adult conversation with an intellectual equal, or is she isolated with her disabled child all day? Does she wonder whether he can love her back or whether he even cares that she feeds him, changes his diaper, cuddles him? Is she even a person anymore, or does she only exist to care for his every need, without thanks or recognition, until one of them dies?

It is never acceptable to hit a child, especially not one who cannot cognitively grasp why he's in trouble. However, I think it's really important to discuss how isolating, numbing, and frustrating it can be to parent a disabled child. There's very little support out there for parents, especially outside the Western world, and even then, it's largely taboo to express frustration or say you don't want to do this anymore. Everything must be positive and inspirational at all times or you're a shitty person who doesn't deserve to have a child. She's going to get absolutely destroyed in the comments, but I think what she really needs is compassion.

 

[GenociderSyo]

That is one reason one of the schools I was in had support books. It was a journal the parent and teachers had to write in each day/night. It helped the parents cope better while also updating us on the students.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to spend years and years providing care for someone who can't tell you what is wrong. He cries, you change him and feed him and reposition him and make sure there's no draft from the window and his blankets aren't too warm and the tag from his pajamas isn't poking his skin, but still he cries. He cries and cries and cries. You've tried everything and it's starting to seem like he's crying just to spite you, to say, in his own wordless way, "Fuck you. Your ministrations are not enough", and you can't think of anything else that could be wrong, can't think at all, really, because his crying is like an ice pick to the temple, again and again and again and then you think that maybe if he wants to cry you'll give him a reason -

 

[copacetic91]

That is one reason one of the schools I was in had support books. It was a journal the parent and teachers had to write in each day/night. It helped the parents cope better while also updating us on the students.

How in the world did you get parents to comply with this and actually do it? It sounds wonderful, but optimistic for participation.

 

[Treasure Champs]

Plenty of people beat and shake their perfectly normal babies. Half of parenting class at hospitals and stuff is about how not to get super frustrated at them. I distinctly remember being told that it was okay to walk away from a crying baby and sit somewhere else for a bit, within earshot, to take a moment. Why? "Because a crying baby is a breathing baby". It will be fine if you let it cry. It will not be fine if you lose your temper. There was a whole damn channel at the hospital that was nothing but "don't shake your baby" programming.

This woman has a much tougher time than most, and Mr. "how could you hit an innocent child?" is imagining that babies are nothing but doe-eyed, gurgling cuties 24/7.

 

[GenociderSyo]

How in the world did you get parents to comply with this and actually do it? It sounds wonderful, but optimistic for participation.

Private school parents paid a college tuition pratically to get their kids a spot so they tended to be quite compliant.

 

[katrizia]

So she's a single mom from Ukraine living in Thailand. I do feel for her because she got pretty sub-par prenatal care and the doctors in Thailand didn't tell her the fetus had microcephaly. She said that she would have gone home and aborted if she had known.

She runs some sort of spiritual woo group for women on the island she lives on. The kid's dad dipped out when he was born, unsurprisingly. She has a Thai nanny that takes care of the baby most of the day, but the nanny's dad died so she's left to attend the funeral and mom is very clearly not dealing with having the kid full time very well. He's pretty much full on potato, doesn't appear to have any awareness whatsoever. She also doesn't really understand his condition (I don't think she's well educated) - for example, she filmed him having a seizure and she thought him crying meant he was in pain from it. I'm pretty sure he is empty upstairs and didn't feel a thing.

That being said .... "I slapped that little ass" isn't the best choice of words, to say the least

 

[Android raptor]

It's easy to just dismiss her as an evil psychopath, but I think it's worth considering that she is exactly what happens when parents of special needs kids have no outlet and no support. She's the sole caregiver for a child who has pretty severe microcephaly and is in diapers, at the very least. It's not an excuse for hitting him, ever, but I wonder when was the last time she had a few quiet moments to herself. When did she last get a shower? A cup of tea that was still hot? A full night's uninterrupted sleep? When did someone last ask her about how she's doing, rather than framing the question in terms of her child's health? If she gets sick, is she able to go to bed, or does she have to death-march through her day because nobody else will care for him? Does she lose sleep worrying about what will happen to him when she dies? Does she ever get to have an adult conversation with an intellectual equal, or is she isolated with her disabled child all day? Does she wonder whether he can love her back or whether he even cares that she feeds him, changes his diaper, cuddles him? Is she even a person anymore, or does she only exist to care for his every need, without thanks or recognition, until one of them dies?

It is never acceptable to hit a child, especially not one who cannot cognitively grasp why he's in trouble. However, I think it's really important to discuss how isolating, numbing, and frustrating it can be to parent a disabled child. There's very little support out there for parents, especially outside the Western world, and even then, it's largely taboo to express frustration or say you don't want to do this anymore. Everything must be positive and inspirational at all times or you're a shitty person who doesn't deserve to have a child. She's going to get absolutely destroyed in the comments, but I think what she really needs is compassion.

All parenting is hard and frustrating though. The whole "caring for a disabled kid is so hard!" thing just ends up getting used to excuse child abuse when it's directed at disabled kids. Ask me how I know.

Personally I'd probably end up sticking any baby I was the sole caregiver of in a blender, disabled or not. That's why I'm never having kids. I think a lot more people than would openly admit are the same way, and a lot of "special needs mamas" who treat their kids like shit probably would abuse and resent any kid they got stuck with (and are just using the kids disabilities as an excuse).

See also: Robyn, who blatantly favors her immobile, largely silent potato over her healthy kid.

 

[Sam Hyde Simp]

Weren't birth defects originally thought of God punishing you for your sins with offspring that probably won't survive or have kids of their own? Not sure how we got "gift from God" out of this in the end.

Because imagine being happy.
With a simple 'kids" show and a racecar your WHOLE life.
Never need fulfillment, validation, acceptance anything that "normal" people crave.
Some people will work their entire lives in a 4x4 cube and then die.

That's more disabled to me than some kids that's crying laughing because the rain makes a pleasant sound.

Being born just to enjoy life while others cater to your needs sounds like the ideal life.

I think most people are a lot more autistic/damaged mentally than they will admit.

Just think that people TAKE ACTUAL PICTURES OF THEIR GOD DAMN FOOD and then send it to 900 of their closest friends.
Imagine being in the wild west and a picture is delved by post of your closest neighbor (25 miles away) of his fucking lunch last week.
Fucking insanity.

The little autistic kid that is in toe with a loving grandpa/ma is maybe how God wanted us to be.

Not this shitty existence of self-aware.
Sure I can avoid being sodomizied better,
but that's a small tradeoff--
-would probably forget it if you were autistic enough

Site lagged posted it twice here is a child abuse themed meme instead:

 

[katrizia]

"Being born just to enjoy life while others cater to your needs sounds like the ideal life."

That's assuming you don't require multiple surgeries, feeding tubes, suffer from seizures, require a ventilator, etc etc like the majority of the kids we see here

 

[A tree]

So she's a single mom from Ukraine living in Thailand. I do feel for her because she got pretty sub-par prenatal care and the doctors in Thailand didn't tell her the fetus had microcephaly. She said that she would have gone home and aborted if she had known.

She runs some sort of spiritual woo group for women on the island she lives on. The kid's dad dipped out when he was born, unsurprisingly. She has a Thai nanny that takes care of the baby most of the day, but the nanny's dad died so she's left to attend the funeral and mom is very clearly not dealing with having the kid full time very well. He's pretty much full on potato, doesn't appear to have any awareness whatsoever. She also doesn't really understand his condition (I don't think she's well educated) - for example, she filmed him having a seizure and she thought him crying meant he was in pain from it. I'm pretty sure he is empty upstairs and didn't feel a thing.

That being said .... "I slapped that little ass" isn't the best choice of words, to say the least

Well that puts a bit of a different slant on it. More evidence if we needed it that you really shouldn't force women to birth spuds. Why doesn't she give him up for adoption? Is it about her image?

Throwing someone who isn't up for it into the tatermom role is likely to result in abuse of the tater.

 

[katrizia]

Well that puts a bit of a different slant on it. More evidence if we needed it that you really shouldn't force women to birth spuds. Why doesn't she give him up for adoption? Is it about her images?

Throwing someone who isn't up for it into the tatermom role is likely to result in abuse of the tater.

I'm really not sure, I wonder if those options aren't available in Thailand? Obviously Ukraine is fucked at the moment. The nanny seems to really love the kid, probably a matter of time til she just leaves him with the nanny permanently. She's trying to turn 'special motherhood" into her brand but obviously that's not working out too well.

She survives off her business and donations. I don't think Thailand has any type of benefits or support for the disabled. Shitty as spanking him his, she's doing handling it better than I would. I for sure would have left him at the hospital and got on the next flight out of Thailand. No fucking way.

 

[A tree]

I'm really not sure, I wonder if those options aren't available in Thailand? Obviously Ukraine is fucked at the moment. The nanny seems to really love the kid, probably a matter of time til she just leaves him with the nanny permanently.

Maybe that's the best thing that could happen for the kid. Probably not for the poor nanny unless mum leaves her years worth of money too.
I'm guessing giving him up for adoption over there would essentially be a death sentence but you would think there would be sympathetic Ukrainians or people sympathetic to Ukrainians around the world who would be willing to help.

 

[Android raptor]

Because imagine being happy.
With a simple 'kids" show and a racecar your WHOLE life.
Never need fulfillment, validation, acceptance anything that "normal" people crave.
Some people will work their entire lives in a 4x4 cube and then die.

That's more disabled to me than some kids that's crying laughing because the rain makes a pleasant sound.

Being born just to enjoy life while others cater to your needs sounds like the ideal life.

I think most people are a lot more autistic/damaged mentally than they will admit.

Just think that people TAKE ACTUAL PICTURES OF THEIR GOD DAMN FOOD and then send it to 900 of their closest friends.
Imagine being in the wild west and a picture is delved by post of your closest neighbor (25 miles away) of his fucking lunch last week.
Fucking insanity.

The little autistic kid that is in toe with a loving grandpa/ma is maybe how God wanted us to be.

Not this shitty existence of self-aware.
Sure I can avoid being sodomizied better,
but that's a small tradeoff--
-would probably forget it if you were autistic enough

Yeah but if you get born to parents who don't actually love you or want you to be happy or as healthy as possible, you get stuck in a living hell with no easy way to get out, or even make others aware you're being hurt in the first place.

I've heard of severely disabled kids having everything from their parents putting cigarettes out on them to being raped and sold to others to rape by their own fathers.

Bringing any kid into an existence where it isn't wanted or won't be cared for properly tends to end poorly, with disabled kids you pretty quickly get into some of the worst acts of cruelty to children you can think of.

 

[katrizia]

Maybe that's the best thing that could happen for the kid. Probably not for the poor nanny unless mum leaves her years worth of money too.
I'm guessing giving him up for adoption over there would essentially be a death sentence but you would think there would be sympathetic Ukrainians or people sympathetic to Ukrainians around the world who would be willing to help.

Not too sure about support in Ukraine itself, don't they typically dump disabled kids in those awful orphanages where they just leave the kids to rot in cribs? That's where a lot of the Christian martyr potato parents in the US obtain their collection of adopted kids.

 

[BBJ_4_Ever]

Dr. Florence Murray was a Canadian physician who worked in what is now North Korea, prior to the division and ensuing war. The blurb to this book said something about "a society so primitive, its women were not considered worthy of having names." But that was only half true; in that region, the infant death rate was so high, babies usually were not named until they started walking.

https://www.alibris.com/booksearch?mtype=B&keyword=florence+murray+dragon+hill&hs.x=0&hs.y=0

These are tragic situations all around.

Dr. Edith Potter was also a fetologist and neonatologist who wrote extensively on this subject.

TEP, thanks for leading me down yet another Internet rabbit hole! I signed up and looked at some of those images, and some of the scariest looking things turned out to be NBD in the end.

Dr. Jeanty does indeed sound like an amazing person. RIP.

Giants in Obstetrics and Gynecology Series: Philippe Jeanty, MD, PhD, a pioneer in the study of fetal anatomy, biometry, growth, and congenital anomalies

Philippe Jeanty, MD, PhD, a pioneer in obstetric and gynecologic ultrasound, has made key contributions to the study of fetal anatomy, biometry, growth, and the diagnosis of congenital anomalies. He is regarded as one of the most influential mentors and teachers in the field. His enthusiasm for...

www.ajog.org

I'll admit to cracking up at the second picture, and specifically the need for an arrow to identify the toddler Philippe from his friends.

Thank you and here is the archive of the Dr. Jeanty article https://archive.ph/mf8FR